Finished Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Town Wins

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 1 Ends August 2nd

One of the reasons is his buddying on Luis. However, like I stated a while ago he has done literally nothing today besides be contradictory towards Camo and throw suspicion at Camo, besides makong one very short post about SF and MTC. He hasn't really mentioned anyone else which is just scummy to me. If he were a townie he woukd try to throw his opinions around so that shoukd he be NK'd we have something to analyse, and he is experienced enough to know this. However scum often focus on only a couple of people strongly to try and A) Limit town info should they die and B) Waste town discussion over whether x was a buss or a legitimate buddy or lynch attempt on y user when they know that it is one of the two options. This, to me, is why he is focusing so heavily on Camo.

I'm sure there are some other reasons too, but it's like 1 AM for me so idr them right now. If you want you can ctrl+f alex over the last couple of pages and see how I talked about him previously.

Missed this post when skimming over just now, but it makes a lot of good points I'll respond to.

Remember me buddying with you last game? I buddy up. That's what I do. If I see someone who's under suspicion who I don't agree with their lynch at all, I buddy up with them. I try to protect them. I don't want them to get lynched, because I don't believe they are scum. I literally did this same exact thing last game with you, with Camoclone wanting you lynched.

I haven't mentioned anyone else because I'm not suspicious of anyone else. As I've said in other games I'm not a good scumhunter. I wait till we have information, which is why I want to NL day 1. I noticed SF and MtC so I pointed them out, because I noticed that the had been completely skipped over in all the talk about Luis and Wailord.

I'm not focusing heavily on Camo. All I've said (and I've only said it once or twice) on Camo is that if Luis is lynched and flips town, we should lynch Camo. A couple of reasons for this; 1) to pressure him off voting Luis, 2) because I think he has been acting pretty scummy by committing so hard to Luis with literally 0 reason to think Luis is scum, and 3) to have an excuse to policy lynch him lol.

You're last sentence also shows a prime example of "he's guilty, now let's find the evidence to prove it", as opposed to "search for evidence and then find someone suspcious".

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 1 Ends August 2nd

Triple Ninja'd lol.

And Camo your reply says literally nothing.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 1 Ends August 2nd

One of the reasons is his buddying on Luis. However, like I stated a while ago he has done literally nothing today besides be contradictory towards Camo and throw suspicion at Camo, besides makong one very short post about SF and MTC. He hasn't really mentioned anyone else which is just scummy to me. If he were a townie he woukd try to throw his opinions around so that shoukd he be NK'd we have something to analyse, and he is experienced enough to know this. However scum often focus on only a couple of people strongly to try and A) Limit town info should they die and B) Waste town discussion over whether x was a buss or a legitimate buddy or lynch attempt on y user when they know that it is one of the two options. This, to me, is why he is focusing so heavily on Camo.

I'm sure there are some other reasons too, but it's like 1 AM for me so idr them right now. If you want you can ctrl+f alex over the last couple of pages and see how I talked about him previously.

I'm not focusing heavily on Camo. All I've said (and I've only said it once or twice) on Camo is that if Luis is lynched and flips town, we should lynch Camo. A couple of reasons for this; 1) to pressure him off voting Luis, 2) because I think he has been acting pretty scummy by committing so hard to Luis with literally 0 reason to think Luis is scum, and 3) to have an excuse to policy lynch him lol.

I don't like this answer. Try again please. The bolded parts have flaws/

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 1 Ends August 2nd

Triple Ninja'd lol.

And Camo your reply says literally nothing.

I typed words therefore it says stuff. Your logic is invalid.

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 1 Ends August 2nd

I'm not focusing heavily on Camo. All I've said (and I've only said it once or twice) on Camo is that if Luis is lynched and flips town, we should lynch Camo. A couple of reasons for this; 1) to pressure him off voting Luis, 2) because I think he has been acting pretty scummy by committing so hard to Luis with literally 0 reason to think Luis is scum, and 3) to have an excuse to policy lynch him lol.

I don't like this answer. Try again please. The bolded parts have flaws/

Camo's my best friend!@@!@!! I love Camo he should never be lynched!!! Long live king Camoclone!!!

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 1 Ends August 2nd

I don't like this answer. Try again please. The bolded parts have flaws/

Camo's my best friend!@@!@!! I love Camo he should never be lynched!!! Long live king Camoclone!!!

Someone else take it from here. Alex can't argue with me.

 

[Drohn]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 1 Ends August 2nd

I find your logic more flawed, Camoclone. I also defended Luis against you, because you tunneled him for no reason. That's why I am so suspicious of the people that actually follow your lynch and vote them.

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 1 Ends August 2nd

Camo, seriously though, do you want to make an actual response to either of my recent posts?

 

[PMJ]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 1 Ends August 2nd

Luis, considering you didn't even get the name right, you must not really care about the lynch e.e which makes me think you as scum.

You can't be serious.

Wow, that's actually super super powerful for us. If we cooperate we can actually lynch several people whom we find scummy in a single day.

As if that isn't scummy as all hell.
##WAT: Celever

You can't be serious.

It's late in the day so I'm not going to change my vote but posts like these make me wanna reconsider.

Basically, idle your ability. Like for the rest of this whole emtire game unless someone gives you a VERY good case about why you should use it on a certain player. Not why they are scummy, since you can lynch scummy players. Onky why you should use your role on a certain player.

This is precisely why Luis's role is of little to no use. You should only want to use it on people you believe to be scum, but instead of wasting time with nullifying their vote, you should just build a case on them and try to get them lynched instead of leaving them alive with no vote. Dead scum > voteless scum.

I find your logic more flawed, Camoclone. I also defended Luis against you, because you tunneled him for no reason. That's why I am so suspicious of the people that actually follow your lynch and vote them.

I am supporting Camoclone's suggestion because I believe it's a good option for a day one lynch. I sympathize with Luis, because the same thing that's happening to him happened to me (THANKS LENNY). He looks town, but with his weak, town-hurting role, we will lose very little if he does, in fact, flip town.

I will admit that Camoclone went after him pretty hard, though.

I think the biggest issue Camoclone has with alex is that alex does not seem willing to admit that there's even a chance that Luis could flip scum (otherwise alex would not be defending him so vehemently). Since the scum know who is town (or, to be more accurate, who isn't scum), it's easy for them to vigorously claim that a certain person is town because they know that they aren't scum.

 

[Drohn]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 1 Ends August 2nd

Why would you not reconsider your vote PMJ? We still have a whole day. SF is the better lynch today. I ask everyone to vote him.

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 1 Ends August 2nd

PMJ that's simply how I play. I don't think that Luis is 100% town. I just know 100% that I don't want him lynched. There's a difference.

 

[Luispipe8]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 1 Ends August 2nd

I'm actually tempted to vote for Feathers now, but I'll wait until my unvote doesn't make me get Lynched. e.e

 

[PMJ]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 1 Ends August 2nd

PMJ that's simply how I play. I don't think that Luis is 100% town. I just know 100% that I don't want him lynched. There's a difference.

Please explain it to me.

Why would you not reconsider your vote PMJ? We still have a whole day. SF is the better lynch today. I ask everyone to vote him.

That's right. For some reason I thought that the day was going to end sometime midday. I'm too used to hosting.

I checked over SF's posts and they have been largely worthless. After some rvs fun times, the next four posts he made (149, 151, 160, 163) were all active lurking posts. One of his posts in particular stood out to me, and it's the part where SF first voted Luis. I'll recap the posts where it happened:

228: Camoclone votes Luis
229: SF asks for Camo's case
230: Camoclone replies "He is scum. Please vote." That is literally the entire post.
231: Celever posts
232: Celever posts again
233: Camoclone replies to Celever (not the above posts) and asks, "Now can we please get LUISPIPE8 scum?"
234: Camoclone replies to Celever again, saying, "I don't know. I think we should lynch him. He just seems so much like a wolf."
235: MTC says, "Yeah. I like this idea." and changes his vote to Luis
236: SF posts "Now that I look back on it, he does seem really scummy." and votes for Luis
237: alex posts
238: Luis reacts to being voted for

The post I outlined in red is the most damning post SF has made. As alex pointed out, Luis made exactly one post before #238. Let's see what it was:

God, I really should check this Thread more often (or pay attention a bit better, one or the other xD). Well, since I honestly don't have a clue about who to lynch, I'll do this:

Luispipe8>Player #8> ##VERB: TwistedTurtwig

Haha, is nothing against you, TT, it's jusr Random Randomness.

Yeah, that seems real scummy. Camo didn't actually post his case on Luis until about twenty posts later, which makes me wonder what made SF so sure that Luis was scum based on the one post he made during rvs (which SF himself participated in).

Also, the fact that he asked for Wailord_2 to claim out of nowhere in post 508 seems to have gone completely under the radar.

You're right, Drohn. I wouldn't mind a Luis lynch, but SF looks to be a very promising lead.

##UNVOTE: Luispipe8
##VOTE: Scorched Feathers

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 1 Ends August 2nd

Sorry PMJ I thought it was self explanatory. What I mean is, I'm obviously not 100% sure that Luis is not
a wolf. However, I think it is unlikely. Because of that, I don't want him lynched. I REALLY don't want him lynched because I REALLY don't think he is scum. And since I really don't wants him lynched, I'm trying really hard to not make that happen. It would just put us at a disadvantage considering (FMPOV) how little of a chance it would be for him to flip scum.

Sorry if you still don't get that, I'm typing on my phone.

 

[alex]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 1 Ends August 2nd

Inb4 Camo calls AtE because I said sorry twice.

 

[Luispipe8]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 1 Ends August 2nd

Just to make it clearer, because I can't understand it completely yet: How was my random vote against TT scummy?

 

[TwistedTurtwig]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 1 Ends August 2nd

Just to make it clearer, because I can't understand it completely yet: How was my random vote against TT scummy?

It wasn't. The entire case against you was made up. People only want to vote for you now because they think that your vote-blocking ability is going to be a huge detriment IF you're a wolf. There's not really much more than that, which is why I haven't been as gung-ho for your lynch as some of the other players. It just doesn't seem like enough evidence to warrant your lynch to me.

 

[Drohn]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 1 Ends August 2nd

The fact PMJ (he's a WW genius) agrees almost confirms it for me that SF is a wolf. Sadly my vote isn't counting today, so I would appreciate it if others would use their vote to support this case. SF hasn't contributed at all and has jumped on every wagon so far. Vote him, please.

@Luis: That post wasn't scummy, it was just SF trying to get a lynch going by jumping on the wagon.

 

[Luispipe8]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 1 Ends August 2nd

Oh, I misunderstood PMJ's post, then. And I'm just waiting on The Guy's vote count to make sure my vote does not put me in the line of fire, because I agree on everything about Feathers, specially PMJ's post.

 

[PMJ]

RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 1 Ends August 2nd

PMJ (he's a WW genius)

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVDFEvw-zUk[/video]

In all seriousness please take the things I say with a grain of salt, it's great if SF gets lynched and flips scum but don't take my word as gospel.