RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 10: ends Saturday 15th]
Ice Espeon said:
However, after I post a solution to this problem below (where we wait for the confo-town to get safe through posts), Bigfoot is nowhere to be seen in the thread.
This was probably due to not wanting to derail the lynch and the opportunity to kill 4 townies. (Not being online is not an excuse as I was having a Skype conversation with him at the time).
I figured the plan to wipe out a heap of players had a higher chance of killing the scum and a higher chance of working and thus didn't need to speak up when anyone had different ideas.
Since the day has started, I've noticed another thing from Bigfoot:
BigfootAUS said:
If he's holding the Safety Goggles and dies, no one gets them afterwards right? Because if you really want me to bomb a suspect accurately, I don't think I can do that with Safety Goggles floating through the game.
And yeah, IE seems super scummy after reading all that QT. Thanks bb, you're a huge help!
##UNVOTE: Wailord_2
##VOTE: Ice Espeon
If we lynch IE today and he flips town, lynch me tomorrow and I'll bomb whoever we all agree on.
Thanking somebody like this seems like you are just trying to get their trust. This sentence is completely unnecessary (you don't need to thank somebody for them trying to win).
Thanking people for certain behaviours encourages them to continue that behaviour. I want bb to keep doing what he's doing. Don't you?
There were also occasions where he was extremely reluctant to reveal his role (because it was apparently more fun for him to have us guess and waste time than it was for him to reveal).
You'd note that the day when my role-teasing was the focus was the day when not much else was going on. I made some fun for myself. If I was scum, I would've manipulated town to turn against each other.
I didn't use my role earlier as I was waiting for someone to be a priest/doctor. I chose mason after it seemed like there was nothing else that was actually viable, as well as it being a good opportunity to help confirm my alignment in a way that wouldn't waste town time.
It doesn't confirm your alignment. Of all the players who have died, masons are pretty weak. It really seems like you're trying to use Machampt's town-ness to help you rather than have an actual ability to do stuff.
It wouldn't make sense for me to be scum when there was another copying ability in the scum team already. If it did actually occur that there were two copying roles on the scum team, I would have copied something else long ago that didn't involve me being put into the spotlight.
If there was one copying role on the scum team, why wouldn't there be two? There is literally nothing to prevent that from being a thing.
The only reason you are in the spotlight is because you joined a mason chat and that pretty much forced you to reveal yourself. bbninjas would voice concerns if you didn't publicly post, meaning you put yourself in the position you are in now.
If Bigfoot is town and believes that Wailord is scum, then dying today is a good option for him. It will help the town to take out two suspects at a time (which will help in the long run), and if he was right with Wailord then he would literally win the game.
If we are right with anyone then we would literally win the game. This paragraph of yours can easily be you attempting to wipe out 2 townies, but we won't know until you die - which is why I'm agreeing to be lynched
after you get lynched.
Bigfoot keeps mentioning that he wants to be one of two players left at the end, yet if he is scum then doing so will mean that he has won!
I never actually thought about it like this - if that's a point of suspicion then that's fine, but you need to accept that I can't really dispel this suspicion.
It is much safer to lynch Bigfoot and for him to kill Wailord than to kill me today and risk Bigfoot/Wailord being scum. (You say that it is unlikely for scum to have a bomb, yet he could be lying about this entirely). His resistance to this happening today is further proof that he is scum for me.
It is much safer to lynch you today and remove Safety Goggles from the game. If you get lynched today, I want everyone to lynch me tomorrow so I can bomb Wailord (or whoever the majority agrees upon) without Safety Goggles preventing me from doing anything. Note that removing Safety Goggles means that if something happens overnight to make everyone think someone other than Wailord is scummy, I can kill them - hence why I want you and the Safety Goggles gone today, IE.
bbninjas said:
I'm starting to lean more to Bigfoot.
His main defense is 'a bomb is very unlikely for a scum'. Well... it is very unlikely for the scum to have two copying abilities and double voting abilities. And he put up a huge defense against MTC.
That defense is what PMJ injected in to this, thank you very much. I haven't played WW before, I don't know if bombs are common and if they're usually scum or town roles.
As for the defence against MTC: Why wouldn't I defend myself from tunnelling?
Squirtle Squad said:
I'm all for the IE lynch, depending on what we he flips I say we go wailord or Bigfoot tomorrow! (Preferably wailord)
Preferably me, because I can bomb Wailord without the risk of Safety Goggles stopping me.
bbninjas said:
If we do indeed get IE and not Bigfoot, then we should get Bigfoot the following day. He will kill Wailord if he is town and that should be game over anyway. Here is what I think we should do:
Again, I'm volunteering and encouraging you to lynch me tomorrow
after IE dies and takes the Safety Goggles to the grave. If IE dies today, I will bomb Wailord tomorrow. Easy as that.
Regardless of the doublevoting power, I will vote for myself and I expect DracLord and bbninjas/SS to vote for me too. Does Wailord have the vote power of 3? (No but really where is his roleclaim? I wanna read it.) If the plan means Wailord dies, so what? If he's town, he'd vote for me too. If he's scum, town wins. If he dies and is town and I'm somehow scum, town wins.
The only reason I want to do this (die & use my ability) tomorrow instead of today is because I'm hoping for a scum slip-up and need the Safety Goggles gone to make the most of it if it happens.
I am agreeing to kill Wailord if IE gets lynched today and I die any time after that.
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