Finished Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [AND THE WINNERS ARE...]

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bbninjas said:
Is anyone else finding the following players hard to read due to lack of posting? Is very little posting a sign of scumminess?

  • Eron
  • Alex
  • Chaos Jackal
  • Crimson Flame
  • One Approved
  • Wailord_2

I wouldn't say it makes any of them scum, but you're right about them being harder to read. Whether or not this is on purpose is hard to tell, but in general being quiet is more beneficial than harmful for the person doing it. In other words, townies flying under the radar is probably good for us since they'll be less likely to be targeted by wolves, and scum flying under the radar helps them not draw attention to themselves and get lynched. If you want to look at it that way, then yes I guess it's scummy. You also have to remember to read every post carefully, I do specifically remember all of these names contributing at some point, actually. Fortunately Teal's 6 post minimum rule will keep these guys posting (or get them modkilled) so we shouldn't need to harass them.
 
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Sorry for having a life bbninjas:p. The reason I'm hard to read isn't because of my few posts (this is my 3rd post this day, and I made seven D1), but because of too many posts from certain people. I simply find no reason to write a million posts when the Day is still fresh and when the last 6 pages are comprised mostly of accusations that the majority agrees are kinda dumb.

Oh, by the way...
##UNVOTE: Luispipe8

We can easily check the truth of his words tomorrow.

Anyway, right now, Drohn is the scummiest person for me. His style and accusations begin to turn Camoclone-ish, and that's definitely not the way he plays... In previous games he was way more careful, and definitely less obsessed. It could be his playstyle evolving and all, but I'd keep a close eye on him.

Wailord_2 is a bit suspicious, however, he seems the same as in every game I've seen him played... We've lynched him in the past over similar behavior, and he was town... so I'm not very confident in his lynch.
 
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Chaos Jackal said:
Sorry for having a life bbninjas:p. The reason I'm hard to read isn't because of my few posts (this is my 3rd post this day, and I made seven D1), but because of too many posts from certain people. I simply find no reason to write a million posts when the Day is still fresh and when the last 6 pages are comprised mostly of accusations that the majority agrees are kinda dumb.

Oh, by the way...
##UNVOTE: Luispipe8

We can easily check the truth of his words tomorrow.

Anyway, right now, Drohn is the scummiest person for me. His style and accusations begin to turn Camoclone-ish, and that's definitely not the way he plays... In previous games he was way more careful, and definitely less obsessed. It could be his playstyle evolving and all, but I'd keep a close eye on him.

Wailord_2 is a bit suspicious, however, he seems the same as in every game I've seen him played... We've lynched him in the past over similar behavior, and he was town... so I'm not very confident in his lynch.

Camoclone-ish? Does it meant randomly scummy
 
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So I think I've caught up.
SF has previously claimed Goodra and there's something to do with slime.

Luis claimed, and is using his ability to reveal his role in the morning update. This either confirms him or makes him look really dodgy if he doesn't.

People don't trust me enough to pas me the life orb, which I completely understand since this is WW. However, in an attempt to actually get something usable out of my role, do you guys think we could make a deal? Like I reveal/let you guys direct what I do in exchange for keeping me alive and being able to use my role? (I first heard about this in a previous game, where an indie SK was being used by the town in this way; but I'm not an indie, since there aren't any, and I'm not scum.) Note: I understand if you don't want to or don't trust me, but it would be nice (and make it more fun for me :D).
 
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rev3rsor said:
So I think I've caught up.
SF has previously claimed Goodra and there's something to do with slime.

Luis claimed, and is using his ability to reveal his role in the morning update. This either confirms him or makes him look really dodgy if he doesn't.

People don't trust me enough to pas me the life orb, which I completely understand since this is WW. However, in an attempt to actually get something usable out of my role, do you guys think we could make a deal? Like I reveal/let you guys direct what I do in exchange for keeping me alive and being able to use my role? (I first heard about this in a previous game, where an indie SK was being used by the town in this way; but I'm not an indie, since there aren't any, and I'm not scum.) Note: I understand if you don't want to or don't trust me, but it would be nice (and make it more fun for me :D).

If you do perform a role claim, I'm assuming you need to be wary. If your role is good with the life orb, than the WW may be eager to kill you. I'm guessing that the problem is more that people don't know if you are town or not. I suggest trying to get other's trust without claiming; it is most likely safer (but remember this is my first game so my advice may not work).
 
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TheGuy said:
Sorry I haven't post yet today. I was gone all day yesterday and then fell asleep early and I've been working on my Senior Thesis all day (It's also taken me a while to catch up on posts).

I have no idea where the slime came from. And it doesn't match SF's story since I didn't target him. The only logical explanation is that he also targeted me and somehow slime was transferred or if there's another player that gives slime to the people that target them. Right now I'm leaning towards SF being a liar about his role in regards to the slime and normally I'd be a fan of the Lynch All Liars philosophy, but it wouldn't make any sense for him to lie about this particular ability.

On another note, I believe Luis' role. He's wasted his role posting ability but it seems like a strong possibility for a real role.

A redirector or other mechanic is also possible.

bbninjas said:
I feel like it should be pointed out that Camo is on his 2nd vote (out of the 5 he apparently needs) and it is D2. This may not mean anything, but it doesn't seem like he trying to get his ability over-and-done-with (or whatever he was doing) like D1.

I also have 4 more days to get 5.
 
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If SF/Goodra had his ability copied, wouldn't that mean that person (the one that copied the ability) would also be slimy in the update? Luke what happens to slimy people?
 
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I did a lot of analysing and I came up with the following, let me know what you think.

http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thread-active-werewolf-xxiii-a-sacrifice-for-anti-arceus-day-2-ends-thursday-2nd?pid=2664973#pid2664973
When Camoclone was being voted on it was KoN who first made a big post defending him and to direct the attention to Jeremy. If Jeremy was really suspicious, that would make sense, but at that point he really wasn’t acting suspicious. On top of that, KoN found Jeremy scummy for the same reason he used to defend SF. Both showed a play style where they voted, but didn’t talk much. Why would you direct people to Jeremy if you normally wouldn’t find his behaviour suspicious or lynch worthy? Answer: To defend Camoclone.

http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thread-active-werewolf-xxiii-a-sacrifice-for-anti-arceus-day-2-ends-thursday-2nd?pid=2666173#pid2666173
Here KoN is reluctant to let SF explain what happened and why TheGuy and SF were slimy. SF claims that he’s Goodra, but he wasn’t being targeted by TheGuy? Very strange! Or is it? Luckily KoN has the explanation: SF’s ability was copied! But by who? TheGuy, I need you to confirm this. It was by Camoclone! Of course KoN knew what happened, since they talked about it in the Scum chat.

That is not the only suspicious thing however! (Damn I wish I had cool GIFs right now)
http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thread-active-werewolf-xxiii-a-sacrifice-for-anti-arceus-day-2-ends-thursday-2nd?pid=2666179#pid2666179
Not only did KoN have the right explanation, because they talked about it in the scum chat, even Meaty slipped up and thought it was Camoclone who was slimy. Camoclone copied SF’s ability, which KoN and Meaty knew about, Meaty accidentally slipped up and told us in the game thread Camoclone was slimy (I thought he was just confused when he said it, but I have a stronger lead now) and KoN was right there with the knowledge of a copied ability. They all must have talked about it in the scum chat. Now why would they discuss copying SF’s ability if they don’t know his ability? Either they have a seer and found out SF’s ability, which could be TheGuy since he got slimy, or SF is scum himself.


Scum: Camoclone, Keeper of Night, Meaty, and either TheGuy or SF
##Unvote: Celever
 
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You know what's being said in the scum chat!! D:<
#VOTOFALSO:Drohn

Wow... That's just... wow. Case closed, I guess? So should we keep on our Celever/Fletch Lynch or go after those guys? I think Camo is our better shot, since that way we find out about the reporter while on that.
 
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Also something else I noticed on the vote count, it said Jeremy had 16 votes, but only 15 people voted him, whereas Celever had 1 vote even though both Meaty and Ice Espeon voted him. Something is going on with Meaty's vote (or maybe IE, but I think Meaty), maybe he doesn't have one, because a night kill is enough. And someone probably has a double vote weight too.
 
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Correction: They can't have found out through TheGuy, since even if he was a seer, he would have gotten the results today, which would be too late for Camoclone to copy the ability. It makes more sense SF is scum too, since KoN didn't want him to explain/claim his ability/role and for KoN to defend him.
 
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I would like to thank Meaty for slipping up. I really could not have done this without you. <3

I suggest we lynch Camoclone or SF first. Whatever their ability is now, it must be good if they want it twice.
 
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Luispipe8 said:
You know what's being said in the scum chat!! D:<
#VOTOFALSO:Drohn

Wow... That's just... wow. Case closed, I guess? So should we keep on our Celever/Fletch Lynch or go after those guys? I think Camo is our better shot, since that way we find out about the reporter while on that.

I can't connect Celever to this story, but that definitely doesn't mean he's cleared. I prefer to go after these 4 first, though.
 
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Agree. Just can't believe I didn't noticed it myself. Dx Need to learn how to see scumtells easier...
##UNVOTE: Scorched Feathers
##VOTE: Camoclone
 
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Drohn said:
http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thread-active-werewolf-xxiii-a-sacrifice-for-anti-arceus-day-2-ends-thursday-2nd?pid=2666173#pid2666173
Here KoN is reluctant to let SF explain what happened and why TheGuy and SF were slimy. SF claims that he’s Goodra, but he wasn’t being targeted by TheGuy? Very strange! Or is it? Luckily KoN has the explanation: SF’s ability was copied! But by who? TheGuy, I need you to confirm this. It was by Camoclone! Of course KoN knew what happened, since they talked about it in the Scum chat.

You're hypothesis correct, I did target Camoclone last night.

##Vote: Camoclone

I'm fairly convinced that these four are working together in some kind of scum chat. I feel as though Camo and SF are the most obvious followed by Keeper and Meaty. I'd say we either go for Camo or SF today.
 
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##Vote: Camoclone

Thanks for confirming! I'm convinced it's correct now.
 
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waiiiit what? what did I overlook? Can someone explain this 'slimy' business to me? (sorry for being clueless :3)
 
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In the day update it said TheGuy and SF were slimy. Meaty then said he thought Camoclone was silenced by this slime, which was weird, because Camoclone wasn't mentioned or related to the slime anywhere in the game thread. They more than likely talked about it in the scum chat, however, which is why Meaty connected the slime to Camoclone. Back then I thought it was just being confused, but now I know why he connected the slime to Camoclone.

The slime itself is SF's ability, which he admitted himself. It's likely that everyone who targets someone with that ability is mentioned being covered by slime in the day update, since TheGuy targeted Camoclone and was slimy. It all goes back to Meaty slipping up, KoN somehow knowing about it and defending Camoclone and being reluctant to SF explaining his ability, and somehow all the scum knowing SF's ability (meaning SF is scum too).

Tl;dr: Scum team slipped over their own slime and fell face down. :D
 
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^To add to the first alinea, they must have discussed Camoclone copying SF's ability, which is what he did and why TheGuy got slimy for targeting Camoclone. This is why Meaty connected the slime to Camoclone and slipped up in this thread.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

woahhh...
that was pretty intense...
Which also gives us a great advantage uncovering this stuff; all this happened in one day?! wow I've never heard of this before, and it's awesome how you managed to pick up on it :D
Well I guess all that leaves is for me to jump on the camo wagon. ##VOTE: Camoclone
 
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