Finished Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [AND THE WINNERS ARE...]

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

Your whole case is way too flimsy. It is also very very elaborate.

 

[Drohn]

RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

So you think TheGuy got slimy from a redirector? And you don't have any abilities that make someone that targets you slimy? So SF and TheGuy both targeted you and SF got directed to himself and TheGuy to SF? Where is this redirector?

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

Drohn... I'm not telling you my role. As for TheGuy I don't know... There are a lot of possible scenarios. And what do you mean where is this redirector?

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

@Possible redirector do not claim please. Unless you are a scum redirector that is.

 

[Drohn]

RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

I don't believe there was a redirector that got you Gooey, since that would not explain how Meaty knew about you being slimy.

 

[bbninjas]

RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

I agree with KoN and Camo that Drohn's theory seems a little flawed, in the flaws the two are pointing out. There could actually be heaps of reasons why Camo is not 'slimed'.

• Camo did not necessarily copy on N1, he may have been REQUIRED to copy possibly the ENTRIE role of someone on N0.
• Leading off the previous point, gooey may not be always active, or even active on N0.
• SF and Camo may have pretended to swap roles (or actually have swapped roles) to make any theories against them flawed.
• Camo could be holding an item that makes him goo others when targeted.
• SF (or anyone really) could have passed a gooey thing/ability to Camo, and in doing so, SF would get gooed due to targeting Camo.

Do remember people that Scorched Feathers has not entered the conversation yet.
Also, it should be noted that SF hasn't actually properly claimed and therefore we don't know what gooey actually does. Does it goo the target, does it goo the target and user, does it goo only town, does it goo on CONTACT not target, does it only goo every 2nd day, does it only goo when the targeter has a passive ability etc.

Therefore, I agree with Drohn that Scorched Feathers may be the best lynch candidate so far (better than celever (I didn't really want to vote for celever anyway), Luis, Wailord, or any other candidates), simply to find out the answers to the above questions. The answer could lead to Camo being confirmed wolf/town.

1) Even if I copied N0 wouldn't i still be Gooey'd?
2) Ok...
3) Why would we do this?
4) That's pretty unlikely.

1) Refer to number 2). 3) Did you read the "to make any theories against them flawed" part!? If you did swap roles, it would be a perfect way to debunk any theories, which is what you are doing presently. 4) Pretty unlikely is not impossible. It is actually quite likely for your to have an item since there are items in the game, according to Luis and Reversor.

I've decided to
##VOTE Camoclone
unless a better lead comes up.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

I don't believe there was a redirector that got you Gooey, since that would not explain how Meaty knew about you being slimy.

There are many. Including:
1) Redirector on scum team and Meaty is on it
2) Misread / Mistype
3) Etc

1) Even if I copied N0 wouldn't i still be Gooey'd?
2) Ok...
3) Why would we do this?
4) That's pretty unlikely.

1) Refer to number 2). 3) Did you read the "to make any theories against them flawed" part!? If you did swap roles, it would be a perfect way to debunk any theories, which is what you are doing presently. 4) Pretty unlikely is not impossible. It is actually quite likely for your to have an item since there are items in the game, according to Luis and Reversor.

I've decided to
##VOTE Camoclone
unless a better lead comes up.

1) Number 2 is silly
2) .
3) But it doesn't give anyone any advantages. It's literally the same thing as having your own role... Actually it's worse if there is a role cop.
4) Insanely unlikely... Especially since I haven't been alerted that I have an item.

 

[Drohn]

RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

Camoclone doesn't exactly look like TheGuy so I doubt it was a case of misreading or mistyping. It's quite obvious scum chat knowledge of you being involved with this, as I said. He knew you were involved with it and TheGuy targeting you proves why.

Do you think a redirector is the only other way? Because "Etc" doesn't say much to me.

 

[bbninjas]

RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

I don't believe there was a redirector that got you Gooey, since that would not explain how Meaty knew about you being slimy.

There are many. Including:
1) Redirector on scum team and Meaty is on it
2) Misread / Mistype
3) Etc

1) Refer to number 2). 3) Did you read the "to make any theories against them flawed" part!? If you did swap roles, it would be a perfect way to debunk any theories, which is what you are doing presently. 4) Pretty unlikely is not impossible. It is actually quite likely for your to have an item since there are items in the game, according to Luis and Reversor.

I've decided to
##VOTE Camoclone
unless a better lead comes up.

1) Number 2 is silly
2) .
3) But it doesn't give anyone any advantages. It's literally the same thing as having your own role... Actually it's worse if there is a role cop.
4) Insanely unlikely... Especially since I haven't been alerted that I have an item.

This are options. ._.
3) Does so give advantages... which i have already mentioned.
4) Thankyou for stating you don't have an item for the first time.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

Camoclone doesn't exactly look like TheGuy so I doubt it was a case of misreading or mistyping. It's quite obvious scum chat knowledge of you being involved with this, as I said. He knew you were involved with it and TheGuy targeting you proves why.

Do you think a redirector is the only other way? Because "Etc" doesn't say much to me.

People forget things Drohn... And what the heck do you mean by the bolded part?

There are various weird power roles that would work.

 

[Eron]

RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

So it's supposed that Camoclone is scum?

I just wanted to post. I'll read as much as I can.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

There are many. Including:
1) Redirector on scum team and Meaty is on it
2) Misread / Mistype
3) Etc

1) Number 2 is silly
2) .
3) But it doesn't give anyone any advantages. It's literally the same thing as having your own role... Actually it's worse if there is a role cop.
4) Insanely unlikely... Especially since I haven't been alerted that I have an item.

This are options. ._.
3) Does so give advantages... which i have already mentioned.
4) Thankyou for stating you don't have an item for the first time.

3) Not really
4) Your point?

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

So it's supposed that Camoclone is scum?

I just wanted to post. I'll read as much as I can.

Drohn thinks that people are on a scum team based off an insane theory that is completely based off shaky facts and doesn't account for the fact that I'm not gooey'd.

 

[bbninjas]

RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

This are options. ._.
3) Does so give advantages... which i have already mentioned.
4) Thankyou for stating you don't have an item for the first time.

3) Not really
4) Your point?

3) Yes really.
4) That you only just mentioned you had an item so I had no idea that you had one or not. I cannot read minds, hack into PB or the like, you know.

 

[Drohn]

RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

With the bolded part I mean that Meaty was aware you had some kind of connection to the slime in the updates, something readers of only this thread could not have known. The scum team (likely includes you) discussed it in their private chat. It's the only way he could have known about it. I could have believed it was a mistake if TheGuy didn't confirm you were actually involved with being slimy, but that is no longer a possibility. Role claim, please.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

With the bolded part I mean that Meaty was aware you had some kind of connection to the slime in the updates, something readers of only this thread could not have known. The scum team (likely includes you) discussed it in their private chat. It's the only way he could have known about it. I could have believed it was a mistake if TheGuy didn't confirm you were actually involved with being slimy, but that is no longer a possibility. Role claim, please.

No... This whole theory is so flawed. Explain to me how I didn't get gooey'd if I "copied" LF's role.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

3) Not really
4) Your point?

3) Yes really.
4) That you only just mentioned you had an item so I had no idea that you had one or not. I cannot read minds, hack into PokéBeach or the like, you know.

3) Not really... If you really believe it then have someone target LF tonight. See if they get slimy. If there isn't a redirector then that should prove that we didn't "switch" roles.
4) A slimy item is too unlikely anyways.

 

[bbninjas]

RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

With the bolded part I mean that Meaty was aware you had some kind of connection to the slime in the updates, something readers of only this thread could not have known. The scum team (likely includes you) discussed it in their private chat. It's the only way he could have known about it. I could have believed it was a mistake if TheGuy didn't confirm you were actually involved with being slimy, but that is no longer a possibility. Role claim, please.

No... This whole theory is so flawed. Explain to me how I didn't get gooey'd if I "copied" LF's role.

Didn't you read all the other possibilities that a variety of people have provided? Currently, you are only going on with copying theory. I may be new, but you don't need to disregard half of what I say.

 

[Drohn]

RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

Edit:
bbninjas also brought up a good point. SF might have passed on the ability to Camoclone, without Camoclone knowing about it. He could have mentioned this in the scum chat, where Meaty is still definitely present, else he wouldn't know about it. With that SF would have targeted Camoclone, making SF slimy, and TheGuy would also be slimy for targeting Camoclone the same night.

If that is the case I think we should lynch SF and Meaty first. I still want Camoclone to role claim, else there is no way to prove he did not work together with SF and Meaty, which is still what I think happened most. He's also getting a lot of time to edit/write a new role now, so perhaps if SF and Meaty flip scum he should be lynched to be safe anyway.

Ok just thought of this:

What if Camoclone's copying ability works during the day, so he can use his copied ability at night? This would explain it not being in the update.

Role claim please. The longer you take the more time you have to edit/write new roles.

These two options are what could have prevented you from being mentioned in the update. It's also possible you have an ability to prevent it. It's not a possibility Meaty is psychic and it is very very very unlikely he just got confused and by coincidence mentioned you as the other slimy person, who happened to really have the ability (as proven by TheGuy).

Since you're so unwilling to share your role I'm sure you were involved too so I'm going to assume there was another way for you to avoid being mentioned in the OP.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [DAY 2: ends Thursday 2nd]

No... This whole theory is so flawed. Explain to me how I didn't get gooey'd if I "copied" LF's role.

Didn't you read all the other possibilities that a variety of people have provided? Currently, you are only going on with copying theory. I may be new, but you don't need to disregard half of what I say.

It's based off something so unlikely and outlandish. It's a bad case. What other theory is there other than the copying one that is good? The switching thing isn't. If you really think that we switched then just have someone target SF tonight.