Finished Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - The Order of the Phoenix is the Winner!

[xDoggerx]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

Now the thing is if they have the usernames of the characters in the QT or not.
Another thing to take into account is that if one of them was brought back to life... Would they be active enough to answer our questions, or if they would even want to answer them.

If we brought them back to life, wouldn't they try to fulfill their win condition. Why would they help us?

Cuz we have a common enemy, the wolves, and we already know who they are so if they start messing things up, we can lynch them, it would be like having a non-clueless Day 1, but yes, you do have a point. It was just an idea after all.

 

[AlexanderTheAwesome]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

we can lynch them

Again?

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

If we brought them back to life, wouldn't they try to fulfill their win condition. Why would they help us?

Cuz we have a common enemy, the wolves, and we already know who they are so if they start messing things up, we can lynch them, it would be like having a non-clueless Day 1, but yes, you do have a point. It was just an idea after all.

Besides, the plan was all revolving around Lucius not having the ability, which I think is quite unlikely. Look at the wording of the role:

Passive Ability: Unbreakable Vow
You of the Malfoy Manor have made an unbreakable vow. If one of you dies, the other members will go to the faction the deceased was sided with (if a faction was to change, you’ll receive that faction’s Win Condition).

"the other members" heavily implies that all of the Malfoys will both have the ability, and as such will switch factions.

This plan just doesn't work for me on so many levels...

 

[bbninjas]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

It may be worth mentioning that part of my lead involves Celever being part of the Daily Prophet.

Happened to me in another WW game once (two, actually, I think). Wouldn't surprise me if it happened again.
-snip-

What? What on earth do you mean?

And Celever ninja'd me about what I was going to say in relation to Dogger.

 

[Keeper of Night]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

Happened to me in another WW game once (two, actually, I think). Wouldn't surprise me if it happened again.
-snip-

What? What on earth do you mean?

And Celever ninja'd me about what I was going to say in relation to Dogger.

I was in a qt group that had the possibility of one of the members being scum. Was simply saying it wouldn't surprise me if that were the case here.

 

[bbninjas]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

What? What on earth do you mean?

And Celever ninja'd me about what I was going to say in relation to Dogger.

I was in a qt group that had the possibility of one of the members being scum. Was simply saying it wouldn't surprise me if that were the case here.

Ah, okay then.

 

[PMJ]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

Lucius Malfoy is obviously scum, he was like the scummiest dude in Harry Potter outside of Voldemort. He obviously can't switch alignments because then he could just blab to his new team who his old teammates are and that's basically gg for scum.

 

[xDoggerx]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

But then, in the apart QT, you can see who's who, that's why I was saying that Draco and Narcissa could've tell us who Lucius was now that they both would know who's who.

we can lynch them

Again?

And yeah, again, I repeat: it would be like having a 2nd D1. No deaths, but with a lot of new useful information.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

And yeah, again, I repeat: it would be like having a 2nd D1. No deaths, but with a lot of new useful information.

This is a bad idea >.<

 

[BigfootAUS]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

But then, in the apart QT, you can see who's who, that's why I was saying that Draco and Narcissa could've tell us who Lucius was now that they both would know who's who.

Again?

And yeah, again, I repeat: it would be like having a 2nd D1. No deaths, but with a lot of new useful information.

Your resurrection plan stems from the theory that Lucius was scum and is now an Independent, right? Because if that's true, scum should be the ones trying to get Lucius nightkilled. The same logic can be applied to Draco: potentially (do we have confirmation he was scum prior to Drac's death?) was scum until Narcissa died, then got nightkilled to make sure he didn't blab after being turned Independent.

If we lynch whoever Lucius is, it means scum don't have to nightkill Lucius. Which means they can nightkill a townie. And if we've found out who Lucius is via the Malfoy resurrection plan, we can't resurrect a townie (unless you can use that ability more than once, but that seems overpowered).

Honestly Dogger, I think you'd be wasting your resurrection ability on any non-town players. Don't bother.

 

[xDoggerx]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

I just can't stop thinking that I could die tonight because of what I already revealed... So I'm trying to find some way to use that revealed power before I die. Also, I just saw the vote count and there are still people voting against me, making me the next lynch ATM.

 

[AlexanderTheAwesome]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

I just can't stop thinking that I could die tonight because of what I already revealed... So I'm trying to find some way to use that revealed power before I die. Also, I just saw the vote count and there are still people voting against me, making me the next lynch ATM.

If you claimed I might believe you
And I mean FULL role claim

 

[xDoggerx]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

Also, I know that the Unbreakable Vow ability seems to be of every single Malfoy, but what if PMJ is right and Lucius is still scum? The wolves wouldn't need to use a nightkill for him and would be using it on someone else.

 

[bbninjas]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

True Dogger, but the majority of the town believe you (from what I've gathered) so I don't think it's necessary to full claim.

I've got a feeling that Shining Goodra is a indie or scum, possibly one of the Malfoys.

 

[xDoggerx]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

I just can't stop thinking that I could die tonight because of what I already revealed... So I'm trying to find some way to use that revealed power before I die. Also, I just saw the vote count and there are still people voting against me, making me the next lynch ATM.

If you claimed I might believe you
And I mean FULL role claim

Why full claim? That would leave me more exposed... I mean, why is not everyone full claiming, why don't you full claim?
No one is even counter claiming me... Isn't that enough proof?

 

[bbninjas]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

@Luispipe
Are the people that don't meet the posting requirement going to be subbed out, or m'kd if no subs are found?
Anyway, I think I'll read back a few of the more inactive and see if I can find any leads.

 

[bbninjas]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

If you claimed I might believe you
And I mean FULL role claim

Why full claim? That would leave me more exposed... I mean, why is not everyone full claiming, why don't you full claim?
No one is even counter claiming me... Isn't that enough proof?

Enough proof for now, I would think. If you like you could give us everything except your abilities and spells or whatevers - so maybe your flavour, Wincon, alignment, rolename.

 

[Lenny]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

True Dogger, but the majority of the town believe you (from what I've gathered) so I don't think it's necessary to full claim.

I've got a feeling that Shining Goodra is a indie or scum, possibly one of the Malfoys.

I get the same feeling about SG. He should have claimed at this point if he wanted to help town, unless revealing his role would somehow help scum which he made no indication of...in fact he seems to have ignored everybody's request for the reveal. I guess we'll find out soon enough, but it'd be nice to know now for more information.

xDoggerx, I get what you're saying. You're afraid that if you die tonight you won't be able to use your ability. If we lynch a townie today, then you can resurrect them. If we don't, then the town is already in a good position. Comes night, if there is some sort of "priest", they can try and save you. Scum should have some hesitation when targeting you just because there might be a priest in my opinion. There's always an obvious target, but it's not always the smartest.

I don't think you should full claim, xDoggerx. Nobody has counter-claimed, so yes that is enough for now. Pushing for a full claim will only give scum more information at this point.

 

[Luispipe8]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

@ninjas, ATM not, no. I understand that the season contributes to people not being that active. However, those who don't post at all today will need to PM me in order to remain in the game. (I'll post this in the update tomorrow.

Vote count in a couple minutes.

 

[Luispipe8]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 2 ends December 24th, at 23:59 GMT

Current Vote Count:

Spoiler: Vote Count

• Teal: 1
• Keeper of Night: 0 (Camoclone, Teal, Celever, Squirtle Squad, grantm1999, xDoggerx)
• Shining Goodra: 0 (Squirtle Squad)
• Lenny: 2 (grantm1999)
• Machamp The Champion: 1 (Teal, TheGuy, bbninjas, Keeper of Night, One Approved)
• xDoggerx: 4 (Celever, bbninjas, BigfootAUS, Ice Espeon, Teal, Camoclone, AlexanderTheAwesome, Keeper of Night, Squirtle Squad, TwistedTurtwig)
• grantm1999: 1 (Teal)
• celever: 1 (bbninjas, Camoclone)

Notes:

• 15 votes to end the day before time, with a Lynch.
• Current lynch candidate(s): xDoggerx.
• ~25 hours remain before Day ends.