Finished Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - The Order of the Phoenix is the Winner!

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RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 4 ends January 11th, at 23:59 GMT

Lenny said:
I'm not being defensive, I'm responding to their thoughts. You'd think that if I was scum I'd have picked up on the fact that seeming defensive draws attention to me. Yet I'm still doing it so maybe, just maybe it's my play style? I hate the argument "too defensive". It's a double standard in WW. Speak too much? Defensive. Speak too little? Evading. This is how I play.

I admit saying "I'm town" sounds ridiculous when I read it again but I wasnt trying to pull some tricks. I didn't put much thought into what I was saying, I was just trying to keep you all updated as to why I haven't responded so much. I typed genuinely what came to my mind.
You are responding in a very defensive way to no accusation. I just said I had a feeling about your post, that's it...
Camoclone said:
Vom said:
I have a strong feeling about this, it looks way too towny to me. I'm not voting yet tho, as I said, just a feeling.
Anyone else find it at least somewhat suspicious? Cmon, it's kinda scummy.
I'm pretty sure you got my point here XD

Machamp The Champion said:
You could benefit from him being alive? Why? Because you're scum buddies? I haven't seen any other reason why you specifically could benefit from him being alive.
Remember there was a role that had a vote weight of +2 as long as as *player* is alive? Maybe his is something similar.

PMJ said:
- There's nothing that evidences him as town. Nothing. I think the same can be said for me, but there's a difference. I am town and Lenny is not. We can prove that Lenny is not town by simply lynching him.

If you acknowledge that the same argument could be used for you (or anyone else, actually), then why are you using it as part of your argument to get Lenny lynched?
Your whole argument to lynch him is poor altogether.
While his argument is indeed poor, I'm more and more convinced Lenny is indie/scum due to the emphasis he puts on him being town in his posts. If you scroll through them, pretty much all of them are highly defensive, and include the word "town" several times. Like, seriously.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 4 ends January 11th, at 23:59 GMT

I don't like how Camo said "BTW all the things you said about me apply to Celever too!" and then put me in his top 3 scum list? Surely he's admitting that he's scum by doing that? And either way, nitpicking aside, he usually MAKES time to play these games, so I'm not really convinced...

##VOTE: Camoclone

As for why I haven't been my usual self..... Do you want me to list all of the commitments I have in my life rn? I have a lot. Like I've been getting a consistent 1~3 hour sleep each night, with the occasional 12 hour sleep to catch up followed by an all nighter because THAT'S HEALTHY >_>
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 4 ends January 11th, at 23:59 GMT

Celever said:
I don't like how Camo said "BTW all the things you said about me apply to Celever too!" and then put me in his top 3 scum list? Surely he's admitting that he's scum by doing that? And either way, nitpicking aside, he usually MAKES time to play these games, so I'm not really convinced...

##VOTE: Camoclone

Can you guys really not see how scummy he is? It's hilarious.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 4 ends January 11th, at 23:59 GMT

Actually I'll show you myself.
Celever said:
I don't like how Camo said "BTW all the things you said about me apply to Celever too!"
Lol... You have to be kidding me.


and then put me in his top 3 scum list?
Lol... You have to be kidding me.

Surely he's admitting that he's scum by doing that?
Lol... You have to be kidding me.

And either way, nitpicking aside, he usually MAKES time to play these games, so I'm not really convinced...
Lol... You have to be kidding me.


As for why I haven't been my usual self.... Do you want me to list all of the commitments I have in my life rn? I have a lot. Like I've been getting a consistent 1~3 hour sleep each night, with the occasional 12 hour sleep to catch up followed by an all nighter because THAT'S HEALTHY >_>
Lol... You have to be kidding me.

Bolded.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 4 ends January 11th, at 23:59 GMT

Camo, defense, not sarcasm, is what you need right now.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 4 ends January 11th, at 23:59 GMT

Celever said:
Camo, defense, not sarcasm, is what you need right now.

I wasn't aware that you were ever "attacking".
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 4 ends January 11th, at 23:59 GMT

A little late for the typical celever vs camo showdown, but hey it's happening. Those who doubted, shame on you.

Camo, why did you vote TT out of the blue? He's confirmed Hagrid unless that's a safe claim (I suppose it could be...)
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 4 ends January 11th, at 23:59 GMT

Vom said:
Machamp The Champion said:
You could benefit from him being alive? Why? Because you're scum buddies? I haven't seen any other reason why you specifically could benefit from him being alive.
Remember there was a role that had a vote weight of +2 as long as as *player* is alive? Maybe his is something similar.

Well, TT claimed Hagrid, and SS claimed Kreacher. Those characters have very littler relation to each other, so I doubt that's the case.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 4 ends January 11th, at 23:59 GMT

grantm1999 said:
A little late for the typical celever vs camo showdown, but hey it's happening. Those who doubted, shame on you.

Yeah... I don't think I will this time. I don't have enough time to put into a full-on argument.

Either way Camo, I do want to see a better defense from you. You are acting differently this game, and I feel like you're trying to differentiate yourself from your scum meta, since you've been scum for the past 2(?) games now, and we're all very familiar with it. Your town meta is also nothing like this, and as town, you tend to just be yourself.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 4 ends January 11th, at 23:59 GMT

What? When? XD I missed that
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 4 ends January 11th, at 23:59 GMT

grantm1999 said:
Camo, why did you vote TT out of the blue? He's confirmed Hagrid unless that's a safe claim (I suppose it could be...)

It was hardly out of the blue. MtC and PMJ made good points and I dislike how he claimed right off the bat. And he is not even close to confirmed.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 4 ends January 11th, at 23:59 GMT

Celever said:
grantm1999 said:
A little late for the typical celever vs camo showdown, but hey it's happening. Those who doubted, shame on you.

Yeah... I don't think I will this time. I don't have enough time to put into a full-on argument.

Either way Camo, I do want to see a better defense from you. You are acting differently this game, and I feel like you're trying to differentiate yourself from your scum meta, since you've been scum for the past 2(?) games now, and we're all very familiar with it. Your town meta is also nothing like this, and as town, you tend to just be yourself.
You actually have to be kidding me.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 4 ends January 11th, at 23:59 GMT

Camoclone said:
Celever said:
Yeah... I don't think I will this time. I don't have enough time to put into a full-on argument.

Either way Camo, I do want to see a better defense from you. You are acting differently this game, and I feel like you're trying to differentiate yourself from your scum meta, since you've been scum for the past 2(?) games now, and we're all very familiar with it. Your town meta is also nothing like this, and as town, you tend to just be yourself.
You actually have to be kidding me.

He makes great points, and you still have no defense. I'd like to see a claim from you. Role name and flavor should be enough, you can keep your abilities private (depending on how believable your claim is.)
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 4 ends January 11th, at 23:59 GMT

Jeremy1026 said:
Camoclone said:
You actually have to be kidding me.

He makes great points, and you still have no defense. I'd like to see a claim from you. Role name and flavor should be enough, you can keep your abilities private (depending on how believable your claim is.)

Please... It's hilarious how you are backing him up when his logic is terrible and you know it. I barely have any votes on me and you have yet to pull together a half decent case that is worth my time.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 4 ends January 11th, at 23:59 GMT

Barely any, yet enough for a lynch right now. Claim.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 4 ends January 11th, at 23:59 GMT

Camoclone said:
Celever said:
I don't like how Camo said "BTW all the things you said about me apply to Celever too!" and then put me in his top 3 scum list? Surely he's admitting that he's scum by doing that? And either way, nitpicking aside, he usually MAKES time to play these games, so I'm not really convinced...

##VOTE: Camoclone

Can you guys really not see how scummy he is? It's hilarious.

It's hilarious that you are not listening to the masons... who have seen double of Celever's total in game posts PLUS his role claim...

Camoclone said:
Actually I'll show you myself.
Celever said:
I don't like how Camo said "BTW all the things you said about me apply to Celever too!"
Lol... You have to be kidding me.


and then put me in his top 3 scum list?
Lol... You have to be kidding me.

Surely he's admitting that he's scum by doing that?
Lol... You have to be kidding me.

And either way, nitpicking aside, he usually MAKES time to play these games, so I'm not really convinced...
Lol... You have to be kidding me.


As for why I haven't been my usual self.... Do you want me to list all of the commitments I have in my life rn? I have a lot. Like I've been getting a consistent 1~3 hour sleep each night, with the occasional 12 hour sleep to catch up followed by an all nighter because THAT'S HEALTHY >_>
Lol... You have to be kidding me.

Bolded.
Ok...

Basically, Camo, you're avoiding questions and not letting people analyse you properly. I don't care if it's not your norm scum meta, and I can imagine you changing your scum play to make people think 'hey, he's not using his scum meta, he's using something different === town'.

##UNVOTE: Grant1999
##VOTE: Camoclone
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 4 ends January 11th, at 23:59 GMT

TT, PMJ, you like BB's post, but not enough to add a vote to Camoclone?
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 4 ends January 11th, at 23:59 GMT

Bbninjas is indeed right, he's only avoiding questions.
##VOTE:Camoclone for now.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 4 ends January 11th, at 23:59 GMT

I was going through PMJ's posts and nothing really stuck out to me as scummy. So that means no case. Carry on as you were, PMJ.

Machamp The Champion said:
TwistedTurtwig said:
You hit the nail on the head, Lenny. I followed my intuition during the last day phase, although rev3rsor's exposure drew me away from Camo and PMJ. I still genuinely believe SS to be town, although it's a shame that he's likely to be modkilled. I could have benefited from him being alive. I plan on containing to look into PMJ, so expect a case on him later on today.

You could benefit from him being alive? Why? Because you're scum buddies? I haven't seen any other reason why you specifically could benefit from him being alive.

Although I don't feel as though I need to reveal exactly why, if SS is alive and using his ability, it would make it easier for me to use my own ability. But that won't be the case anymore, it seems.

Camoclone said:
##VOTE: TWISTED TURTWIG
Lol... You have to be kidding me.

##UNVOTE: Drohn
##VOTE: Camoclone
 
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