RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 2 is here! And so is Team Rocket?!
Lenny said:
@CJ:
SS's ambiguous hunches in the beginning were actually that I was town. It was only until BV came around and posted his baseless argument that SS changed his mind. Then it was reinforced once MtC posted his "empty posts" argument. The first argument against me from BV was found to be false and the second argument against me by MtC is no more than pure speculation. If SS's thoughts are swayed by BV's false argument, how can we attribute any weight to his thoughts right now?
What he interpreted as empty posts was my thoughts about the game at the time. Those thoughts had no conclusions to them but that doesn't make them empty. MtC's conclusion that my posts are empty actually just came from a single post in Day 2. He also attributed this "emptiness" to metagaming, saying I don't do that in other games, except he's wrong and I have made many posts simply stating my thoughts and have not been called out for it in the past 2 games of werewolf HERE on PokeBeach. I'd also like to make note that I was town in both of those games. If you're going to metagame, metagame correctly. It's absolutely false and feels like it was trying to push a lynch with weak arguments.
"Pure speculation" is like 90% of Werewolf.
Most of your post was just stating the obvious. Here, I'll analyze it. All the sections in quotation marks are quotes from the post I called out as scummy:
"We need to gather all the relevant night information and come up with the smartest lynch."
Again, like 90% of Werewolf.
"Also if your information would put you in danger of the night kill and your death would be detrimental to the town as the game continues, you should probably stay quiet unless it's urgent."
That's always what you should be doing.
"With that said, I think if we don't have any concrete leads we can look into the people who are just active enough to not be considered inactive but also not on anybody's radar."
Again, really obvious stuff here. This was at a point in the day where there was still a high chance of finding a good lead.
In the past, you've never just blatantly spouted obvious things every Werewolf player already knows. You're usually pretty straightforward.
Lenny said:
Machamp The Champion said:
Well that was very fortunate. I say we lynch Lenny now. Who's with me?
Yes, lynch the person who
the leader of scum was going after
before any heat was put on him. That really makes perfect sense, MtC.
This could easily be WIFOM. I'm not going to take it into account.
Lenny said:
Camoclone said:
Ok. Humor me Lenny. Vote for someone.
Lol, I have to vote for someone why? Because you said so? You didn't even address any of my responses so why should I give you the respect of answering your question?
This late in the day, not having a vote candidate is very bad, and often something scum do when all the current suspects are their scum buddies.
Lenny said:
Camoclone said:
Still no vote... Why? That's towns biggest weapon.
I won't answer your points yet because I see no reason to. Your case has changed. The reason why you should answer my question is because you are the current lynch candidate. I am not. This thing just seems seems like OMGUS to me.
@r3v3rsor Please post something of substance sometime soon.
Because if I actually place a vote on MtC without proper reasoning behind it then it IS OMGUS. I don't have the proper evidence to back a vote on MtC so I don't vote for him until he responds to me. If he responds in a way I feel does not make him come off as scum, I will not vote for him.
Town should never be afraid to vote for someone.
Lenny's still my main suspect. I've seen him do many scummy things this game, all of which are very different from his usual playstyle. Camo's made a great case on him as well. I'm fairly positive he's a wolf, and I'd like to see him lynched today. I'd also like to point out that I don't find you suspicious for the same reason Brave did, and I think his reason for voting for you was rather silly.
Squirtle Squad said:
So, during the last day period the plan was for me to use Steelix to protect Vom so he couldn't be killed.
Yet today, Vom was killed and I got targeted by at least three abilities.
For the scum to have killed Vom I had to be role blocked or target switched or something.
Scorched Feathers has claimed role blocking me.
Bigfoot has claimed he could have been involved with my target being switched to Lenny.
Now assuming both Bigfoot and SF are town, why would the scum target Vom for the kill knowing he would be protected. Unless they knew I was going to be role blocked or switched. I don't think that both are scum but I think one of them is!
Once the scum knew that my ability would not work (through being blocked or switched) they then switched my ability with BV (who must have the least helpful ability) so that the 'doctor' ability was out of the way.
This is actually a really good point. I wouldn't mind pursuing this lead tomorrow.
rev's continued absence is a bit suspicious, I must admit. I wouldn't
mind lynching him, but I think Lenny is much more suspicious.