Finished Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Game Over! Town Wins!

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 1! Everyone come play!

How was I pushing a lynch? I stated repeatedly that I wasn't expecting a PMJ lynch by the end of the day, but having a lynch opens up discussion.

That wasn't just AtE, btw.

Uhhh yes it was.

 

[Vom]

RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 1! Everyone come play!

What exactly is AtE? xD

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 1! Everyone come play!

How was I pushing a lynch? I stated repeatedly that I wasn't expecting a PMJ lynch by the end of the day, but having a lynch opens up discussion.

So you agree with me?

That wasn't just AtE, btw.

Uhhh yes it was.
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No, it wasn't. I'm the one who typed it; take my word for it.

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 1! Everyone come play!

What exactly is AtE? xD

AtE = Appeal to Emotion

 

[Chaos Jackal]

RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 1! Everyone come play!

I'm too bored to quote and reply to everything you wrote Camo. Plus, it's pointless to keep arguing about what is and what is not solid, and when. I'll just say that all the answers are exactly what I wrote. Obviously if there is enough evidence against a player, then no matter how experienced he is, he must be lynched. The whole point I made was that there is not any sort of evidence to support even a Day 1 case... which is something that you probably understand judging from your vote.

Apart than that, I can't believe I actually agree with the rest of your post. Must be the first time in WW.

 

[Squirtle Squad]

RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 1! Everyone come play!

I haven't played enough of these games here to know, but Celever is acting really touchy/weird..
Sure he could just be trying to get the ball rolling but PMJ making a couple of posts in Day 1 is in no way any sort of lead,
And yeah it is 100% AtE...
##unBehead: Bbninjas
##KarateChop: Celever

And camo my post before was 113% not serious

Also why would it not be a good idea to just lynch one of the people who are often quiet/inactive? That way we aren't missing much if they weren't active enough to use them?
(Don't hate on me, this is just a question!! Haha!)

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 1! Everyone come play!

I haven't played enough of these games here to know, but Celever is acting really touchy/weird..
Sure he could just be trying to get the ball rolling but PMJ making a couple of posts in Day 1 is in no way any sort of lead.

It is when the person in question is PMJ, but you haven't played here enough to know that.

And yeah it is 100% AtE...

LMAO this is the last time I try to role hint on this site. You guys are all awful at picking up on it!

Also why would it not be a good idea to just lynch one of the people who are often quiet/inactive? That way we aren't missing much if they weren't active enough to use them?
(Don't hate on me, this is just a question!! Haha!)

It'd be totally random luck of the draw, which is p much just CJ's idea from before. PRs also often lurk...

 

[Squirtle Squad]

RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 1! Everyone come play!

Yeah I understand that PMJ is 'kinda a big deal' here which is why it's kinda lame that you'd push his lynch for a couple of posts. Also getting him killed because of who he is and that he could be a danger is scummy...

Yeah ok you've convinced me killing an inactive is a bad idea!

If it's supposedly detrimental to the town then I guess you're one of the elite four/champions, care to share which one? Haha

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 1! Everyone come play!

Not saying anything about my role beyond what I've said already.

 

[bbninjas]

RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 1! Everyone come play!

##UNVOTE: Chaos Jackal

Just so everyone is aware, we can't change the voting/unvoting tags. You'll have to write out your votes as usual. Fortunately, writing out your votes allows you to use verbs!

##CATAPULT: bbninjas

Let me know when you land. I'm going to sleep now, and I expect to wake up to a heap of RVS nonsense!

Still haven't landed yet.

Imma get caught up sometime today. Hold your horses boys.

Oh, he's here.

Oooo!!!!! The game has started! Yay!

First thing: if Celever and Camo decide to do their gamely showdown, I may feel compelled to lynch one of them.

This is bad. I don't think to understand why I do what I do D1.

ok.

And why should we not vote for Celever? After all, it seems he is trying to rid an experienced player Day 1... which is detrimental.

I don't like this. You are not a we. You are a you. You decide if you think Celever is scum instead of constantly seeking our approval for everything.

You has a nasty habit of using collective terms.

Name a person who likes Day 1.
Camoclone
bbninjas

Your suspicion of PMJ may be a lead, but don't use the word solid about it again. Calling a Day 1 lead solid is ridiculous unless you have a whole heap of incriminating evidence and the other guy's role PM just in case.
Solid is an a describing word and as such is used to compare something to another thing. A solid thing can be solid D1 with a lot less evidence than something would need to have to be solid later in the game.

If we were suspicious of every person who dislikes Day 1 and yet posts then we would get nowhere. Making a mention about vote tags has nothing to do with contributing to the game even as a facade, because it doesn't contribute. It doesn't contain anything even closely related to who or who isn't suspicious.

Not counting his post pre-start, PMJ has made 4 posts. 2 of these were replying to Celever, so that leaves two posts. One of them was acceptance of the fact that his initial post had a flaw (in other words, that the vote tags don't add ##). So PMJ has only made one post stating something, all the others were replies. And that post he made can't pretend to be a contribution facade even to a newbie. In other words, he has pretty much done what he always does Day 1: nothing. Accusing him of being unlike himself has as much foundation as a sandcastle on the beach.

I'd like nothing more than to follow bbninjas train of thought and say that Celever is suspicious for suggesting that an experienced player should be lynched so early, but I have already thought of ways to counter that thought, among which the fact that Celever does what he always does and of course that it is Day 1 and we can't expect anything better.

To sum it up, I'm against the idea of lynching PMJ Day 1. He has experience, and if he is town he could be helpful. "But if he is scum he will screw us up!". Doubt it. In order for even the best scum player to screw the town up so early and so badly is for the scum team to pull very risky stunts, and these have such drawbacks that attempting them this early is usually a wrong idea, as there are way too many chances of giving town the advantage.
Now this is where you go wrong. Not lynching someone because they are a decent player is always a bad idea. If they have enough evidence against them then lynch them... end of story.

What a long, long, long, long, long post on day 1.

For me, solid has no meaning for Day 1. This lead isn't solid even if it does. If you call the fact that someone made one post progress, even for Day 1, then I believe your expectations are even lower than they should.
Cases can be solid D1.

##VOTE: CELEVER

Rarely cases are solid day one.

Camo you can lynch me 100% of the time on D1 if you target me because I'm awful at defending myself so do both me and the town a favour and don't lynch me please

^ not true.

What is there to defend against? I was trying to usher along Day 1 a bit because nothing ever happens if someone doesn't, which apparently makes me scum. I'm not scum. Is that a good enough defense?

Ushering along D1 by pushing a lynch that isnt justified in the slightest is always a bad idea.

^ what he said.

How was I pushing a lynch? I stated repeatedly that I wasn't expecting a PMJ lynch by the end of the day, but having a lynch opens up discussion.

That wasn't just AtE, btw.

That wasn't just AtE, btw.
wasn't just AtE
just
JUST
JUST

So, you admit you were using AtE?

Yeah I understand that PMJ is 'kinda a big deal' here which is why it's kinda lame that you'd push his lynch for a couple of posts. Also getting him killed because of who he is and that he could be a danger is scummy...

Yeah ok you've convinced me killing an inactive is a bad idea!

If it's supposedly detrimental to the town then I guess you're one of the elite four/champions, care to share which one? Haha

This guy sounds awfully like he is strongly siding with Camo... it sounds like he's got knowledge or something, which is a hint to a QT user.

Not saying anything about my role beyond what I've said already.

/me scuffles to interpret posts

 

[Chaos Jackal]

RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 1! Everyone come play!

LMAO this is the last time I try to role hint on this site. You guys are all awful at picking up on it!

Give me a break... anyone can say "You shouldn't lynch me, it's bad for the town... What, you still don't realize?". It means absolutely nothing. Care to say something more than empty words and badly covered threats?

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 1! Everyone come play!

It's not that we are bad at picking up role hints. It's that we can't believe you would do that with hardly any pressure on you at all. I like how you pointed out your "hint". That does no good for the town if you truly are town which I'm inclined to believe you are not.

I also like how Celever continues to defend his case.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 1! Everyone come play!

LMAO this is the last time I try to role hint on this site. You guys are all awful at picking up on it!

Give me a break... anyone can say "You shouldn't lynch me, it's bad for the town... What, you still don't realize?". It means absolutely nothing. Care to say something more than empty words and badly covered threats?

Ninja'd by this man who is completely correct.

 

[bbninjas]

RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 1! Everyone come play!

If it's supposedly detrimental to the town then I guess you're one of the elite four/champions, care to share which one? Haha

Oh, and it is more likely the Celever is 'not wanting to die' compared to 'I'm a power so don't kill me'.

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 1! Everyone come play!

The case works for Day 1 and the role hint was a conscious decision when I typed it. You can both easily lynch me so to save time I may as well claim now -_-

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 1! Everyone come play!

If it's supposedly detrimental to the town then I guess you're one of the elite four/champions, care to share which one? Haha

Oh, and it is more likely the Celever is 'not wanting to die' compared to 'I'm a power so don't kill me'.

How so? I'm interested.

 

[bbninjas]

RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 1! Everyone come play!

Oh, and it is more likely the Celever is 'not wanting to die' compared to 'I'm a power so don't kill me'.

How so? I'm interested.

Am I the only one who thinks Celever is not wanting to die? I should not be required to explain but...
You use this excuse nearly every time you are targeted early. And, Elite 4 and Champions of no means suggest power roles (<directed at SS).

 

[Athena]

RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 1! Everyone come play!

Turning off the computer to head to bed soon, so here's my final tally for the day. Will be back in the morning my time!

VOTE TALLY: Day 1 \o/

Valid through: Post 177

PMJ (3): Luispipe8 (112), Celever (122), Vom (15)
Chaos Jackal (2): BigfootAUS (94), Celever (97), bbninjas (98), Mr.Muffin (110), Lenny (113)
Celever (2): Camoclone (153), Squirtle Squad (166)
bbninjas (1): BigfootAUS (137), Squirtle Squad (146)
Wailord_2 (1): Reinforce (99)
Machamp the Champion (1): bbninjas (119)
Jarizard (1): TwistedTurtwig (147)
TwistedTurtwig (0): bbninjas (92)
Ice Espeon (0): Squirtle Squad (128)
rev3rsor (0): Vom (130)

14 votes needed for Majority lynch. Numbers in parentheses give post numbers for the votes in question; strikethroughs indicate previous votes that have since been unvoted.

Votes either not bolded not been ##ed have not been added; otherwise, please feel free to point out any mistakes or missed votes.

 

[Squirtle Squad]

RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 1! Everyone come play!

Lol Bb, im just pointing out what I see right before my eyes!

Anyways, Ive gotta work now so try not to kill me while I'm gone!

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXV: Party in Kanto! - Day 1! Everyone come play!

How so? I'm interested.

Am I the only one who thinks Celever is not wanting to die? I should not be required to explain but...
You use this excuse nearly every time you are targeted early. And, Elite 4 and Champions of no means suggest power roles (<directed at SS).

That's because it's true. That's not an excuse, because every time Camo targets me, I'm lynched. For whatever reason I can't defend myself on this site, so it's whatever. This is already game over for me, so that's why I'm acting like this...