Finished Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Town Win!

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RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

Camoclone said:
Keeper of Night said:
...Which is basically my belief on you and AtA, which you refuse to accept.

No I'm just putting it off as OMGUS and grasping for straws.

Then I'll also have to take yours as "grasping for straws." You're looking for new points against me because I continue to address yours readily.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

Keeper of Night said:
@Camo; Celever and AtA have both addressed my questions, why do you insist on ignoring the ones I have for you?

Because they are bad questions and I don't feel like taking time to answer them. Vote for me. I might feel scared into answering them then.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

Keeper of Night said:
Camoclone said:
No I'm just putting it off as OMGUS and grasping for straws.

Then I'll also have to take yours as "grasping for straws." You're looking for new points against me because I continue to address yours readily.

This is funny considering I was suspicious of you first. Your whole case is OMGUS. OMGUS doesn't require a vote to be OMGUS. The concept still applies.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

@Those of you lurking: I'm taking note of who you are.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

Camoclone said:
Keeper of Night said:
@Camo; Celever and AtA have both addressed my questions, why do you insist on ignoring the ones I have for you?

Because they are bad questions and I don't feel like taking time to answer them. Vote for me. I might feel scared into answering them then.

That is the most anti-town thing you've said yet.
No questions are bad questions. They address concerns that you should have no problem responding to. Why hide?
We both know that voting you wouldn't do me any good. Not at this point.

This is funny considering I was suspicious of you first. Your whole case is OMGUS. OMGUS doesn't require a vote to be OMGUS. The concept still applies.
I have provided much more reasoning than that. And now I am further inclined to believe that you do not wish for any discussion but that concerning my lynch.

You claim to want discussion, yet refuse to answer any question directed at you. Why?
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

Keeper of Night said:
Camoclone said:
Because they are bad questions and I don't feel like taking time to answer them. Vote for me. I might feel scared into answering them then.

That is the most anti-town thing you've said yet.
No questions are bad questions. They address concerns that you should have no problem responding to. Why hide?
We both know that voting you wouldn't do me any good. Not at this point.

Ok then why should I answer your questions if I don't feel threatened? If I'm not close to being lynched then I can continue to ignore your questions while pursuing your lynch.

This is funny considering I was suspicious of you first. Your whole case is OMGUS. OMGUS doesn't require a vote to be OMGUS. The concept still applies.
I have provided much more reasoning than that. And now I am further inclined to believe that you do not wish for any discussion but that concerning my lynch.

You claim to want discussion, yet refuse to answer any question directed at you. Why?
Because I'd rather have the discussion be about how you are scum. No reason for me to defend myself if I'm not going to be lynched.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

tl;dr: Keeper doesn't really believe I'm scum. He won't use towns greatest power to try to kill me off. Therefore either he doesn't really believe I'm scum or he is scum.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

I'm not asking you to defend yourself. I'm asking you questions that provide information for everybody to see and reference, same as Celever and AtA.
You also are tunneling at this point Camo, so please go read my posts before trying your case again.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

Camoclone said:
tl;dr: Keeper doesn't really believe I'm scum. He won't use towns greatest power to try to kill me off. Therefore either he doesn't really believe I'm scum or he is scum.

I'm simply not dumb enough to go into OMGUS yet. There's still time in the day. If you continue to ignore my answers and questions, though, I will make a solid case and I will vote you.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

##UNVOTE: AlexanderTheAwesome
##VOTE: Camoclone


You're saying whatever you can to get KoN lynched because he challenged your position. If you're not being any use, I'd rather you gone, town or otherwise. Best plan of action today.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

Keeper of Night said:
AlexanderTheAwesome said:
Ok, keeper there's a lot of stuff you asked me, so if you post the q's you want me to answer in one post I will, but you turned into total OMGUS.
No, I did not. OMGUS would have been me voting Camoclone just because he voted me.

Notice, I didn't even vote for you, I merely took my vote off Vom, and what do youdo? "OMG YOU BANDWAGON WOLF"
That's not how things happened.
How did they happen?

I didn't bandwagon, if I had I would've voted for you. But then you turned into total OMGUS and voted for me. If anything that makes you look wolf... So I'm a little confused, but life goes on.
I believe my exact words were "piggybacking." You were sharing Camoclone's logic in what seemed to be a case of your own without providing any further explanation.
Again, there's been no OMGUS, so you and Camo need to get off that train of thought.
Lemme google for a sec -
"Bandwagon - a wagon used for carrying..."
"Piggybacking - carry by..."
So if your exact words were "piggybacking" (I haven't checked, just taking your word for it), piggyback and bandwagon are synonyms.
Now, you say I didn't provide any new information, well I wasn't trying to.
Why wouldn't you try to provide a reasoning?
oh boy. let's try this again bud,
I did provide reasoning, but the reason I believed was correct had already been provided. I stated i didn't provide new reasoning, however I did provide reasoning

I was simply stating who I believe was right, Camo hit the nail on the head. I was only replying to what KoN said about Camo's strategy.
Ok.

I also believe that what made KoN look scummy was how we was basically trying to stop Any forward progress we were making, with RVS,
That is true. I was looking to stop the RVS and the little arguments that spout because of it. However, I am trying to make progress in a different way, one that provides thought-out posts rather than little accusations, and we finally have some discussion we can go off of.
Ok, I can buy that. However you can't deny that almost this whole conversation stems from RVS. I could debate this with you for a long time, but when you get down to it whether or not either of us likes RVS is besides the point. Mindless bickering is isn't going to make actual discussion, so if you like you can say you won this argument lol.

now I can agree with people who do not like RVS (I'm not a giant fan of it), but it does make progress and every game I've played in has made a lot of progress D1, whether or not you agree with that is fine. I'm not here to argue about RVS, but you can't just say "NO KORE RVS" when we are making slow progress.
We actually weren't making any progress.
ok, if you truly believe this then you would know that us further discussing this is also not going to make progress. If you would like we can discuss this further after the game, feel free to PM me at any time.
That's why I said his post was SCUM-LIKE, his post. Nothing more, nothing less, no reason to try and get a hidden meaning out of what I said because there was none.
All I wanted was the explanation that you just provided, so I will accept this answer.
oh sorry that was more directed at Celever but lol yeah :p

Whether or not I come back to you, we will see, but I want to hear from DMG and get Camo's responses to the questions I asked; mainly this:
I agree, while I can mainly agree with Camo I can admit that it does seem that he is dodging a few questions. I think DMG might be asleep or something because I asked him awhile ago too. Either way we shall see, everything should eventually get answered
I want to know why you think I'm scummy. Not just a "he really wants to be lynched" or "this post is scummy" sort of post, but a thought-out explanation. So far, according to you, I'm scummy because I made a town-like post and I disagree with your methods. I need more than that, because I won't argue with points that are actually helpful to me.
Except now I can tack on that you think I'm contradicting myself with the whole thing about finding AtA scummy. I'm not.
I don't agree with everything here, but I mean I guess we will never 100% agree, that's just how life goes. However, what you say here seems to be mostly correct

@Celever, sarcasm doesn't help anybody.
this^

I hope this was an ok response for you, answers are spoilered for convenience.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

Oh I see. You guys think if KoN voted for me I'd call OMGUS. No he already OMGUS'd. You guys are silly. If you think I'm scum vote for me. What are you afraid of?
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

Celever said:
You're saying whatever you can to get KoN lynched because he challenged your position. If you're not being any use, I'd rather you gone, town or otherwise. Best plan of action today.

Alright boyz. When KoN flips scum you have Celever lying on a silver platter.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

Keeper of Night said:
You also are tunneling at this point Camo, so please go read my posts before trying your case again.

Yes I am tunneling.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

Camoclone said:
Oh I see. You guys think if KoN voted for me I'd call OMGUS. No he already OMGUS'd. You guys are silly. If you think I'm scum vote for me. What are you afraid of?

I don't particularly think you're scum, and I'm sure everyone else has the same dilemma. However, there are no good leads (well defended, AtA n_n) and you're being no good to us town or otherwise, soooooooo.

Not to mention this is a short Day 1 in general. We don't even have time fr proper scumhunting.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

Also anyone else see how the case against AtA is hypocritical? Celever votes AtA for "wagoning". KoN jumps on the wagon. Can we have more votes on Celever / KoN please?

##VOTE: KEEPER OF NIGHT
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

Celever said:
Camoclone said:
Oh I see. You guys think if KoN voted for me I'd call OMGUS. No he already OMGUS'd. You guys are silly. If you think I'm scum vote for me. What are you afraid of?

I don't particularly think you're scum, and I'm sure everyone else has the same dilemma. However, there are no good leads (well defended, AtA n_n) and you're being no good to us town or otherwise, soooooooo.

Not to mention this is a short Day 1 in general. We don't even have time fr proper scumhunting.

##UNVOTE: KEEPER OF NIGHT
##VOTE: CELEVER

##UNVOTE: CELEVER
##VOTE:KEEPER OF NIGHT


Two scumbuddies decided to serve themselves as a lynch. There is literally no reason to note vote Celever or Keeper now.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

I do NOT want to get rid any person in the most active and most experience triangle: Camo, Celever and Keeper. Day 1 is not a good stage to lynch any three of these people, and each of you should know that. If we mislynch Keeper/Celever/Camo, all it takes is the scum to kill another one of them who is town, and we've lost half of our town activity. As we saw in Thena's game, that is horribly detrimental.

I'd be fine with AtA's lynch, since it prevents us from having to see through his play later on at less cost of one of the above. However I'm highly suspicious of Muffin not responding to me, and if you check his profile page, he was online roughly six hours ago...


Camoclone said:
##UNVOTE: KEEPER OF NIGHT
##VOTE: CELEVER

##UNVOTE: CELEVER
##VOTE:KEEPER OF NIGHT


Two scumbuddies decided to serve themselves as a lynch. There is literally no reason to note vote Celever or Keeper now.
Oh, so there is now a reason? Would you mind following the below so us people can actually follow your line of logic and actually find someone lynchworthy?

@Camo you are going to give me a nice long list on why Celever and Keeper are a) scumbuddying b) not townbuddying c) are scum since quite frankly my brain is muddled with all this pointing of the finger.

@Celever you are going to give me a nice long list of reasons why you are a) defending Keeper b) Voting for Camo.

@Keeper you are going to give me a nice long list of reasons why a) Camo and AtA are scumbuddying b) Camo and AtA are not townbuddying c) Are scum
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

Oh, and I'm going to be absent from PB in ~an hour for 3 days, just letting all you people know.
 
RE: Werewolf XXVI: Harmonic Divergence | Day 1 Ends on the 22nd at 22:00 BST

bbninjas said:
I do NOT want to get rid any person in the most active and most experience triangle: Camo, Celever and Keeper. Day 1 is not a good stage to lynch any three of these people, and each of you should know that. If we mislynch Keeper/Celever/Camo, all it takes is the scum to kill another one of them who is town, and we've lost half of our town activity. As we saw in Thena's game, that is horribly detrimental.

This is silly. You should get rid of them if they are scum.

I'd be fine with AtA's lynch, since it prevents us from having to see through his play later on at less cost of one of the above. However I'm highly suspicious of Muffin not responding to me, and if you check his profile page, he was online roughly six hours ago...

AtA is fine.

Camoclone said:
##UNVOTE: KEEPER OF NIGHT
##VOTE: CELEVER

##UNVOTE: CELEVER
##VOTE:KEEPER OF NIGHT


Two scumbuddies decided to serve themselves as a lynch. There is literally no reason to note vote Celever or Keeper now.
Oh, so there is now a reason? Would you mind following the below so us people can actually follow your line of logic and actually find someone lynchworthy?

Isn't it obvious? I mean he wants to lynch town... It's really not hard if you read his posts.

@Camo you are going to give me a nice long list on why Celever and Keeper are a) scumbuddying b) not townbuddying c) are scum since quite frankly my brain is muddled with all this pointing of the finger.

@Celever you are going to give me a nice long list of reasons why you are a) defending Keeper b) Voting for Camo.

@Keeper you are going to give me a nice long list of reasons why a) Camo and AtA are scumbuddying b) Camo and AtA are not townbuddying c) Are scum
Have you even read? I think all of us have answered those questions.
 
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