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Just realized I'm voting Yeowie.
##UNVOTE: YEOWIE
##VOTE: JOSHB

He is the best lynch right now and we should start getting him right about now.
 
Votals:

Camoclone: 0 (Celever Ice Espeon Ice Espeon Ice Espeon Ice Espeon Ice Espeon)
Celever: 0 (Luispipe8 Luctini27)
Luispipe8: 1 (Squirtle Squad)
Luctini27: 0 (Celever JoshB Celever Camoclone Chaos Jackal)
JoshB: 2 (Camoclone Celever, Yeowie, Luctini27 TwistedTurtwig Camoclone, Camoclone)
Yeowie: 4 (Luctini27 TwistedTurtwig, Camoclone, JoshB, Luctini27)
scattered mind: 1 (bbninjas)
Chaos Jackal: 1 (bbninjas)

Not voting: 15 (Vom, Celever, Athena, GM DracLord, Jeremy1026, Mr.Muffin, TheGuy, scattered mind, Mega Adi, steffenka, thegrovylekid, Ice Espeon, Cinesra, Cookie)

In a bit of a hurry so please yell if these are wrong.

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Is that really the biggest font size we have...
 
Why are the two people who were ever threatened of being lynched (Yeowie and Camo), voting for me? Is that just OMGUS after people made reasonable explanations of why they thought you two were a little scummy? Everyone else appears to keeping there vote, to see how this progresses. Why are you guys rushing to get a lynch on me?
 
I don't think that's a good enough case to lynch someone over, I'm gonna be honest. Everyone was focusing on indies at the start of the day; I don't think I mentioned scum once, but I definitely mentioned indies a few times, and Chaos Jackal did the same thing. What makes Yeowie different? That was just what discussion was on at the time.

Celever you haven't had a very good track record for being about to sense Scum. I still somewhat agree with you.

When was Camo ever threaten to be lynched. He is pretty much untouched by anyone who isn't on the chopping block. I think Camo is an asset to us because he is the only person who is actually using a good strategy.

Also I think it is funny how BBninjas is really pushing on Lurkers. D1 is such a turbulent day a lot of people don't even care. Actual good leads barely happen. If someone doesn't have anything worth saying after reading then why post? If it is Day 3-4, and someone is constantly voting without contributing then please put them on blast.
 
Also I think it is funny how BBninjas is really pushing on Lurkers. D1 is such a turbulent day a lot of people don't even care. Actual good leads barely happen. If someone doesn't have anything worth saying after reading then why post? If it is Day 3-4, and someone is constantly voting without contributing then please put them on blast.

I think he's just trying to get people to talk.
 
Why are the two people who were ever threatened of being lynched (Yeowie and Camo), voting for me? Is that just OMGUS after people made reasonable explanations of why they thought you two were a little scummy? Everyone else appears to keeping there vote, to see how this progresses. Why are you guys rushing to get a lynch on me?

I guess it is because you are suspiciously defensive. Plus you are talking about Camo like he was in any danger which is weird because it's not true.
 
Why are the two people who were ever threatened of being lynched (Yeowie and Camo), voting for me? Is that just OMGUS after people made reasonable explanations of why they thought you two were a little scummy? Everyone else appears to keeping there vote, to see how this progresses. Why are you guys rushing to get a lynch on me?

Came likes to vote new players. Because...reasons?
 
And so, the timer begins. It appears that it goes up by one for every day passed, so we shouldn't have to worry too much for the time being.
 
When was Camo ever threaten to be lynched. He is pretty much untouched by anyone who isn't on the chopping block. I think Camo is an asset to us because he is the only person who is actually using a good strategy.

I guess it is because you are suspiciously defensive. Plus you are talking about Camo like he was in any danger which is weird because it's not true.
He was threatened of being lynched in the very beginning, but then he started making claims at me. I may be new, and don't know how to word things "correctly" in WW, but I didn't think I looked scummy.

Apparently his behavior makes him look like a townie, but I just don't see it. I am town, and Camo is worried that I will eventually prove it. From the get go he just tells people to vote for me. And yea his strategy is apparently good on D1, but it hasn't worked so far.
 
And so, the timer begins. It appears that it goes up by one for every day passed, so we shouldn't have to worry too much for the time being.

Might be a bit early to speculate on this. I wouldn't be surprised to see it go up as game events happen as well. Abilities, lynches, night kills, I'm thinking everything will affect the timer.
 
Might be a bit early to speculate on this. I wouldn't be surprised to see it go up as game events happen as well. Abilities, lynches, night kills, I'm thinking everything will affect the timer.
Like Turtwig said earlier, I honestly thought the timer would go up by at least 1 with each night and day phase. But because it didn't, this makes things interesting. If you think about it, the timer has to reach a generally high number like 40-50 to open. Therefore the timer's number can obviously skyrocket, or else the indie would have no chance. I am positive about one thing that can affect though, time. Now this is obviously a factor in the timer, but I have an explanation for it.

In the very beginning PMJ said, as long as we discuss and lynch people at a regular pace the indie shouldn't win. Therefore the indie probably used his own ability to take up more time in D1. But if he did, it is risky because the mafia could hit the jackpot with two Star Witnesses or even townies. The Pandora Box still has a lot of secrets that we need to figure out, but I think we have already learned one of them. With that being said, we should try and speed up this whole lynching process. Just to make sure the indie's plan won't work.

This entire thing could be a fluke, if some Mafia member just used some ability trying to get lucky or something. Regardless, I think I have a pretty good thought which is worth keeping in mind.
 
What exactly is this Star Witness thing? Are they like more special or something?
This post couldn't bother me more. This is just dumbtelling, no more, no less, which would have been OK had I not also explained the mechanic here, right after Luctini's claim (so he should have read it):
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##UNVOTE: Luctini

In the future, everyone PLEASE cut the line in your Role PMs where it is told you are a "Star Witness" if you have it in your Role PM. Doctor protect Luctini tonight.

The star witnesses are the players which mafia need to kill in order to fulfill their win condition. Therefore, we want to try and protect Luctini as long as possible. I have no doubt in my mind that Luctini is town right now; it'd be a hella ballsy move to claim Star Witness, and I'm not convinced the mafia would let a new player claim it.
And I know that bb isn't the sort of player who skips over posts, so what gives?
##VOTE: bbninjas

Honestly the best lead we got today. Yeowie is not a reasonable case and Josh's outbursts are towny, if poor sportsmanship.

Also I'm gonna take Camo's and Thena's comment about me playing well as a compliment, not a case :3
 
This post couldn't bother me more. This is just dumbtelling, no more, no less, which would have been OK had I not also explained the mechanic here, right after Luctini's claim (so he should have read it):

And I know that bb isn't the sort of player who skips over posts, so what gives?
##VOTE: bbninjas

Honestly the best lead we got today. Yeowie is not a reasonable case and Josh's outbursts are towny, if poor sportsmanship.

Also I'm gonna take Camo's and Thena's comment about me playing well as a compliment, not a case :3

I thought about it too. But idk.. isn't that way too obvious? Why would he act like that?
I still think that something is suspicious with Jeremy. He just doesn't relate to anything about voting in his posts.

##VOTE:Jeremy1026
 
I thought about it too. But idk.. isn't that way too obvious? Why would he act like that?
I still think that something is suspicious with Jeremy. He just doesn't relate to anything about voting in his posts.

##VOTE:Jeremy1026
Camo said it before. It's trying to gain townie points, because you immediately make the connection in your head that he didn't know about the mafia's win condition, therefore he's not mafia. He was just pretty transparent with it...

That's also a point about Jeremy. @Jeremy1026 who is your number one scum read right now?
 
On the subject of Pandora's Box, PMJ has already stated that the counter primarily works with real-time days. He also stated, many pages before, that since it's N0 it didn't increase (besides, if it increases with days, why should it, a day hadn't passed). It's been 30 hours since the beginning of D1, so we'll soon know if the timer will increase or not, since PMJ may have been unable to update (unless I missed a post stating that the timer won't increase, or misunderstood the aforementioned one). There may be other mechanics that increase the timer, but we still should have plenty (I believe Luctini's PM said his ability evolves when timer's 40, which means there's probably at least five or ten more ticks). Either way, the Box isn't something that should be concerning us now.
 
Most of this discussion thus far has not swayed any decisions on my vote.

Like Turtwig said earlier, I honestly thought the timer would go up by at least 1 with each night and day phase. But because it didn't, this makes things interesting. If you think about it, the timer has to reach a generally high number like 40-50 to open. Therefore the timer's number can obviously skyrocket, or else the indie would have no chance. I am positive about one thing that can affect though, time. Now this is obviously a factor in the timer, but I have an explanation for it.

In the very beginning PMJ said, as long as we discuss and lynch people at a regular pace the indie shouldn't win. Therefore the indie probably used his own ability to take up more time in D1. But if he did, it is risky because the mafia could hit the jackpot with two Star Witnesses or even townies. The Pandora Box still has a lot of secrets that we need to figure out, but I think we have already learned one of them. With that being said, we should try and speed up this whole lynching process. Just to make sure the indie's plan won't work.

This is just about the only piece of discussion so far from JoshB that I can actually agree with. To say what I've been thinking for a while, the timer will have to reach at least 40, as the safeclaim had an ability that evolved at 40. (Providing the safeclaim was legit, which is likely...)

...the Box isn't something that should be concerning us now.

HA! *snort*
The Box is technically the most important thing to worry about! Sure, we need common sense, but what is this?!
That just tipped me over. Really. Although you have been adding to the discussion, you're not getting very involved in suspicions, as far as I gather. And then you say this... That's ridiculous. You're overlooking the most important mechanic!

My gut tells me that you're absolutely scummy. Until you can prove 'no', which you may or may not...

##UNVOTE: JoshB
##VOTE: Chaos Jackal
 
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