A tl;dr of Jeremy in this game:
(If I don't mention something, chances are I just didn't find it meaningful. Jeremy's had a lot of posts in this game, and this post is meant as more of a summary of his overall play for the first few days and the highlighting of some specific key posts, points, and phrases.)
Jeremy's
first actual game post... is actually about Camo voting for new players. I guess that shouldn't be too surprising.
Some speculation about the timer, then some back and forth with Celever about his scum reads. Claims CJ is his #2 scum read
here, with his #1 scum read being... himself.
Since I guess he did vote for himself D2, we can't argue that he didn't go with his scum reads. :U
Later, he's butting heads with Camo about the JoshB push, starts
here. This seems to be during Camo's main push against JoshB. Despite Jeremy's disagreements with Camo about lynching newbie JoshB, he's perfectly willing to put his first vote on a different newbie, and with almost no explanation:
##vote: Yeowie, just to help progress the day...
After this, he goes back to his argument against Camo for picking on new folk, then later expresses his frustration at the difficulty in lynching someone during the D1 phase. The following exchange with Celever is actually somewhat interesting; it starts
here. Jeremy seems convinced of JoshB's innocence.
Jeremy's silent for a while as Cinesra is discussed, then jumps back in with a vote change... sort of. Celever asks him to vote for his biggest scum read, and we get:
Umm, ok.
##unvote: Yeowie
##vote: Celever
You are acting insane right now, which is enough reason for me to suspect you as either scum, or at minimum detrimental to town interests with your wild goose chase after wild goose chase. It's D1, we need a lynch, there was momentum on Yeowie, but rather than attempting to get information from the flip, "nooooo change it now to someone who I don't even think is scum."
##unvote: Celever
##vote: yeowie
Let's just get a lynch, get information, and move from there.
When the Celever lynch begins to take off, Jeremy is willing to swap his vote to Celever
for the sake of getting a lynch, then goes back to arguing with Camo (in other words, business as usual). I find it somewhat interesting that Jeremy doesn't really bring back his earlier suspicions of Celever with his vote, just goes with it for the sake of going with it, which makes me think his earlier stab at Celever was more hot air than anything else.
Anyway, the argument with Camo continues until Game Freeze for the first part of D1 where Celever's lynch slip is used. Then, as soon as the day continues, he's back at it again.
(NOTE: I'm not really saying much about the nature of Jeremy's arguments with Camo because I don't really find them interesting or useful. They mostly break down to issues with Camo's playstyle, which has been beaten to death enough.)
It's another few pages before Jeremy pops in with game discussion, this time arguing against the Celever re-lynch, which at this point has been picking up steam.
Why are we voting to lynch someone who proved their role claim, and is now claiming star witness? Anyone else think that maybe just maybe we should wait a day, let the seer confirm that he isn't town before we kill off a potential start witness?
A few posts later, he puts in a bolded "vote" on Camo, though without the ##, so it wouldn't have been counted.
I'm not following on this Celever lynch, so Vote: Camo I think you are pushing far too hard on people with limited reasoning. I don't think Celever is scum, and I do think that it sucks that we had to waste one of his 9 2 lives on your little hunch.
Camo asks Jeremy why he voted Celever if he thinks he's not scum, and Jeremy's
reply is more or less that he just wanted to move the game along and he distances himself from the Celever lynch a lot. There are some replies to this by bb and Camo, but Jeremy ignores them for now to answer a question from Luis's about the box timer related to abilities. Jeremy says his is 20, though we know this is a lie since his Role Flip showed that his ability would have evolved at 60. I'm not sure why he would lie about that, other than to deny information to the town, I suppose.
His next post is after a vote count when he notices that his vote on Camo didn't stick, so he makes it official. The
very next post, he swaps his vote over to Yeowie again, since the Yeowie vote is at this point picking up steam related to the safe claim discussion. He was the second to last person to get on the Yeowie lynch before there was majority and game freeze for the end of D1 for reals.
Shortly after the start of D2, Jeremy starts off with
this post, apparently discussing/inquiring about TheGuy's death, though it doesn't seem to pick up any steam, and his next post is answering a mechanics related question that I'd asked about, quoting one of Luis's posts, then he's quiet for a while, until the Luis vote starts picking up steam when he posts this gem:
Ok, so discussion isn't going anywhere thus far. I'm going to throw in my vote.
##vote: Luis
Reason: We need information. Sure, he provided a list of 3 people who he claimed he scanned and turned up as innocent. But, we have no way of knowing if his claim is credible. Since he said he is now vanilla because he shot it load all at once, on N1, the only thing we lose by lynching him if he is town is a vote. Where as if we lynch someone randomly, who knows what ability we will take out, along with a town vote (unless we get lucky and happen upon a wolf). If anyone has a better vote option, I am totally willing to switch. Just wanted to throw out my thoughts.
This was the main post that I was voting Jeremy for D2/D3. Whether or not you agree with my assessment about the cons of lynching the claimed seer, there's lots of scummy things here, but I already talked about that previously and we know Jeremy's scum now, so I won't get into it again. He ignored my vote and pushing on him, but posts again shortly after to encourage steffenka to come forward and claim the information he was hinting at (which leads into the whole CJ discussion), and Jeremy himself joins into that discussion with a minor defense of CJ:
I don't think Chaos Jackal acting on Luctini makes him scum. Actually, since Luctini didn't die, it probably semi-clears CJ. CJ is probably the doc, and was acting to protect Lucini. Being a star witness is a great NK target. If CJ were scum and acted in him, it probably would have been with the NK.
bb calls him out on this post (bb is, in fact, already voting for Jeremy at this point, and Jeremy reacts rather angrily to this, going so far as to
vote for himself and effectively ragequit for the day because he feels people are attacking him for analyzing. A few more votes get tacked onto Jeremy's pile at this point, though there's a bit of a counterpush against me. True to his word, Jeremy doesn't comment on anything for a while until there's a vote count, and even then he only posts to remind people that there's only 1 more vote needed on him until he's lynched, and to dig at Camo some more. Shortly after, it's game freeze for the end of D2.
D3 is really just Jeremy going up against Camo's playstyle again. The only game-related post worth mentioning is that he claims to have been blocked during N2.
My own thoughts and analysis:
There are 2 main things that pop out at me from looking at this:
1) Jeremy was very vocal about defending JoshB and attacking Camo's playstyle of voting for newbies. However, this is very specifically aimed at JoshB. Jeremy had little to say about the other newbies, for the most part, and was perfectly willing to lynch another newbie, Yeowie, both early on in D1 and later wagoning onto the vote that got him lynched, and seemingly expressing no remorse.
2) Jeremy's defense of CJ acting on Luctini seems to me what kicked off his downward spiral. Although D3 discussion mostly revolved around his problems with Camo's playstyle, the D2 meltdown (including self-vote) stemmed from his analysis of steffenka's watcher claim and info dump and his conclusions about CJ.
To me, these things both point to +++scum points at JoshB and CJ, though JoshB slightly more than CJ, admittedly. Since he has been replaced by KoN, I will put in a vote for
##vote: Keeper.
More minor, but based on Jeremy's other votes and actions, it does, in my mind, give a +inno points towards Luis, bb, and Camo. My opinions of Celever based on this analysis are mixed, but if I'm willing to give Luis +inno points, and Luis is vouching for Celever, I guess that leads where it leads.
later tonight or tomorrow.
