Finished Werewolf XXX: Future in Stasis - GAME OVER! Town Wins! Now w/ Postgame analysis!

[Yeowie]

I observed the bb/Celv argument to each and every word... Both of them seem really scummy, but it's a matter of opinion to figure out which one of them actually is scum, because I am convinced that they as both scum wouldn't have an argument over that. I will decide that Celever is the better vote in this case, for the reason that I believe he was trying to get out of looking scummy by using roleplay. That such concept was mentioned over and over during the rp argument and I didn't think it was very viable, but now I think of it more and Celever looks like he feel right out of character in this bb argument and became so aggressive and pressuring. He hasn't pushed for a lynch on bbninjas but it was all subliminally put into his posts and I'm sure Celever wants him dead. So, basically:

##ELIMINATE: Celever

I still have bbninjas as a strong scum read if this vote is wrong and I agree that the mysterious disappearance of @thegrovylekid is something to worry about.
For now, that is all.

 

[Squirtle Squad]

@Celever you're at L-1 I think... Claim please.

Though this lynch seems a bit ridiculous, if Celever flips scum I'll eat my hat!

 

[Celever]

@Celever you're at L-1 I think... Claim please.

Though this lynch seems a bit ridiculous, if Celever flips scum I'll eat my hat!

I'm at L-2 and not claiming until I'm at L-1. There is no reason to do so when momentum will shift towards TGK's lynch in the foreseeable future anyway.

Foreseeable has way too many 'e's in it, and it's really annoying me.

Anyway, back now and catching up.

 

[Squirtle Squad]

I'm at L-2 and not claiming until I'm at L-1. There is no reason to do so when momentum will shift towards TGK's lynch in the foreseeable future anyway.

Foreseeable has way too many 'e's in it, and it's really annoying me.

Anyway, back now and catching up.

Ah yup, I thought scattereds vote was after the count was posted.

 

[Camoclone]

Celever if you were town you wouldn't wait until L-1. Someone could easily hammer.

 

[Celever]

And here I thought that I had only one page to read. The argument between Celever and bbninjas is pointless; long posts with absolutely nothing to say on both sides.

I think my side has been somewhat substantiated and I talked about in my most recent post what we can get out of the argument.

If anything, it makes me a bit suspicious of bbninjas, just because he's getting so defensive over nothing.

In which case I believe the pressure has done its job.

And Celever, do me a favor and stop writing "many people will agree with me" or any slight variation of it. They don't. Stop sounding like a politician, they're usually liars.

I actually say "I think many people will agree with me", which is a very important difference. I understand that this may not be true, but it's what I'm garnering from the general mood of the thread and from people inputting on discussions. The main two people to be doing so that I've noticed (@simsands and @Squirtle Squad) happen to be agreeing with a few of my points, so you can see why I've drawn the conclusions which I have.

I'm still on Celever for this.

For, uh, what exactly? This isn't out of context, you started a paragraph with a totally vague "this".

The argument between him and bbninjas hasn't made my opinion of him better. I still think there's a very good chance he's scum. tgk remains second on the list, and I'd definitely go for him after Celever. In case tgk flips scum, next one is mordacazir. bbninjas can be an option after these three are out of the way.

So you think that the argument between me and bb is scum vs scum? That's very interesting, and is definitely something I'm making a note of for later (and I'm sure @Camoclone, who's been surprisingly quiet during my discussion with bb, will too).

Can the useless rant between Celever and ninjas stop already? I stopped reading that after the 2nd wall of text

If anything of significance happened in Celv and ninja's argument, somebody give me a tl;dr, since I stopped paying attention to that a while ago.

Really, guys? Really? Skimread small posts all you want and even just read topic sentences of longer ones (I try to structure my posts in that fashion, though obviously it's not always possible in a discussion). Skipping posts entirely, especially long ones, makes you scum as far as I'm concerned. @Keeper of Night has come up on my scum lists several times, and I'm scrutinising him hard now because of it. Day 2 I want to see contribution from you.

Sorry, @bbninjas, but it seems like the game wants us to cease discussion. It's a shame, because I can see more contradictions and loopholes in your tl;dr already (and I know it'll be frustrating for you to have spent so much time on it to have it ignored by me) but apparently, according to two people who haven't been reading the posts and have no clue what they're about, we're wasting our time.

##ICE BEAM:Celever

Ignoring my request for explanation of his vague case on me,

I did that in #233 and you REPLIED to me doing that. You're lying and finding an excuse to get on my wagon, scum.

in addition to ignoring my question about SS

You mean in #373? That was directed at me? Um, I can't even make out a discernible question in that post. What exactly did he do that's "weird", and why haven't you brought it up since then, since you were apparently offended so much by my ignoring it? Oh, because it's one more excuse you could make for jumping on my wagon. Yeah, you're scum too.

by making a huge argument with bbninjas which is basically over nothing. Why can he talk so much about his case on bbninjas and not on my case? That's also an interesting question.

It's Day 1 and we have nothing because we're the uninformed majority. Would you care to make a case on someone else using all of your information supplied by the host to you in your scumchat? Why not just make a case on one of your scumbuddies right now? I'm doing feasibly the best any of us can do, and the fact that this is below your expectations is super fishy to me.

And the reason why I stopped pressing you was really because there was nothing to talk about with your case as it was really bad and I was fishing for a good reaction. With your latest post I've got it.

 

[Celever]

Celever if you were town you wouldn't wait until L-1. Someone could easily hammer.

If someone hammers we lynch them tomorrow.

 

[Camoclone]

##VOTE: CELEVER
@Celever L-1 claim.

 

[bbninjas]

Biggest scum read is TGK who has apparently disappeared?

Hey, that's a really interesting point on TGK! I guess noone noticed before with Celever and I blahblahing at each other. I wonder what he'll respond with. x----x;

 

[Celever]

##VOTE: CELEVER
@Celever L-1 claim.

I was townreading you. Shame, you blew it.

Bidoof
Alignment: Town

You are Bidoof, an apprentice at Wigglytuff’s Guild. You were the latest recruit before the young heroes joined. Your inexperience, slowness and clumsiness gets you yelled at a lot by Chatot and Loudred, but you make up for it with your eagerness to work hard, and your honesty.

Special Ability: Bidoof’s Wish
Usage: Night Phase; every Night; Only when two Town-aligned players were lynched in a row; Only once for the entire game
You have earned the privilege to make wishes upon stars – or Jirachi – and the wish-granting Pokemon has psychically allowed you to make one in this crisis, but only if the situation calls for it. You may PM me to use this ability. No Pokemon will be <snip> in this Night Phase.

Passive Ability: Unaware
When you use Items that require you to pick target/s, your choice cannot be changed by other players.

Win Condition: Eliminate all non-Town aligned players

Yes, I've cut the effect of my one-time use active. It's information which will not benefit the town to know and will greatly benefit the scum, as it's sort of situational and will pay no help towards you all making a decision or not.

Someone unvote so we can discuss stuff.

@bbninjas, what's with the double post? Are you so ninja that you're trying to ninja yourself?

 

[Camoclone]

I didn't actually vote you... That worked really well.

 

[Scattered mind]

I think my side has been somewhat substantiated and I talked about in my most recent post what we can get out of the argument.

In which case I believe the pressure has done its job.

I actually say "I think many people will agree with me", which is a very important difference. I understand that this may not be true, but it's what I'm garnering from the general mood of the thread and from people inputting on discussions. The main two people to be doing so that I've noticed (@simsands and @Squirtle Squad) happen to be agreeing with a few of my points, so you can see why I've drawn the conclusions which I have.

For, uh, what exactly? This isn't out of context, you started a paragraph with a totally vague "this".

So you think that the argument between me and bb is scum vs scum? That's very interesting, and is definitely something I'm making a note of for later (and I'm sure @Camoclone, who's been surprisingly quiet during my discussion with bb, will too).


Really, guys? Really? Skimread small posts all you want and even just read topic sentences of longer ones (I try to structure my posts in that fashion, though obviously it's not always possible in a discussion). Skipping posts entirely, especially long ones, makes you scum as far as I'm concerned. @Keeper of Night has come up on my scum lists several times, and I'm scrutinising him hard now because of it. Day 2 I want to see contribution from you.

Sorry, @bbninjas, but it seems like the game wants us to cease discussion. It's a shame, because I can see more contradictions and loopholes in your tl;dr already (and I know it'll be frustrating for you to have spent so much time on it to have it ignored by me) but apparently, according to two people who haven't been reading the posts and have no clue what they're about, we're wasting our time.

I did that in #233 and you REPLIED to me doing that. You're lying and finding an excuse to get on my wagon, scum.

You mean in #373? That was directed at me? Um, I can't even make out a discernible question in that post. What exactly did he do that's "weird", and why haven't you brought it up since then, since you were apparently offended so much by my ignoring it? Oh, because it's one more excuse you could make for jumping on my wagon. Yeah, you're scum too.

It's Day 1 and we have nothing because we're the uninformed majority. Would you care to make a case on someone else using all of your information supplied by the host to you in your scumchat? Why not just make a case on one of your scumbuddies right now? I'm doing feasibly the best any of us can do, and the fact that this is below your expectations is super fishy to me.

And the reason why I stopped pressing you was really because there was nothing to talk about with your case as it was really bad and I was fishing for a good reaction. With your latest post I've got it.

I meant that you didn't answer this:

You are mixing things up. In post 153, I was surprised about the fact that TGK knew you are Bidoof before you had claimed it. Later on, bbninjas explained that it is the "yup yup" thing that made tgk and everyone familiar with PMD Bidoof to know about it. This has nothing to do with contradiction or dumb-telling.
Move on.

 

[Camoclone]

Hop off Celever guys. His role is provable. Hop on TGK.

 

[Camoclone]

@Cypher333 is also a good vote.

 

[Camoclone]

Hop off Celever guys. His role is provable. Hop on TGK.

Actually I take this back.

 

[Camoclone]

His role isn't provable which is a shame.

 

[Luispipe8]

Skipping posts entirely, especially long ones, makes you scum as far as I'm concerned.

Uhm... yeah, no, that doesn't work. Still, it would only work as long as actual discussion is being held, not random yelling at each other, but it's nonsense.

I'm not sold on Cypher just yet, but I'd like to see a TGK lynch.

 

[mordacazir]

Oh wait now i understand, sorry.

 

[Celever]

I didn't actually vote you... That worked really well.

Me right now: "ha..ha.a.ahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ;o;"

His role isn't provable which is a shame.

No no, I think it is. If I get an item tile and someone tries to redirect me (and they announce who they are redirecting me to) I can ensure I target someone else that night. It takes a bit of planning to work, but we should totally do it.

Of course, no need for any redirectors to claim right now. Wait until later when I actually have an item.

 

[bbninjas]

I don't think your claim @Celever has much value if any at all. You've claimed that you've got a clutch pro-town ability, but asides from that, I can't see anything the pushes it towards neutral. If I was to base my vote solely on the two claims of TGK and Celever, I'd probably go for Celever, as TGK's does have a doctoring aspect, and with Celever's... I don't even know what Celever's role is. x-x