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Role-wise, of course.

I can't help but feel elements of OMGUS with your leads on Cypher, though, and I think others will agree, which is why it's not been discussed very often. He's not contributed a huge amount, but neither have one or two other players.

Why?
Your scummy. You will be lynched before MYLO or LYLO if you survive. Your role isn't better then other roles. You NEVER tell a doc what to do like this. Your role isn't that valuable. mind games,
 
@Celever

What scummy things has morda done? I recall lurking and buddying with tgk (which is really only a tell if tgk is scum; otherwise it's just a newbie gravitating to a random (?) player).
Wow, I also thought he was lurking. Turns out he's got 14 posts in the thread; I thought the figure would be closer to 5.
A major point I'd like to raise is these two posts:
I don't understand a word of it, there are much votes on celever but he said that he is Bidoof. And Bidoof is a good guy in the game, am i right?
I agree with thegrovylekid that bidoof is a great alibi for scum so:
##Alibi: Celever
These two posts were made consecutively. Call it confusion on his part if you want, but I see it as a backpedal.

He also hasn't made a post longer than the first one I quoted in this entire game. Very fluffy and very contentless, and only interaction with other players is with TGK really.
Your scummy. You will be lynched before MYLO or LYLO if you survive. Your role isn't better then other roles. You NEVER tell a doc what to do like this. Your role isn't that valuable. mind games,
My role is an extra mislynch for us. This is more valuable than any other role I can see not wanting to get roleblocked at night.

A major point in favour of a @Cypher333 lynch right now is the big outburst he made. I have used a similar tactic in the past as scum to make my name stick in people's heads so that they think I'm contributing, and then just not posting as much so that people have less evidence to use against me. It works quite well, but I don't think there's really any way to say Cypher definitely did that here.
 
Wow, I also thought he was lurking. Turns out he's got 14 posts in the thread; I thought the figure would be closer to 5.
A major point I'd like to raise is these two posts:


These two posts were made consecutively. Call it confusion on his part if you want, but I see it as a backpedal.

He also hasn't made a post longer than the first one I quoted in this entire game. Very fluffy and very contentless, and only interaction with other players is with TGK really.

My role is an extra mislynch for us. This is more valuable than any other role I can see not wanting to get roleblocked at night.

A major point in favour of a @Cypher333 lynch right now is the big outburst he made. I have used a similar tactic in the past as scum to make my name stick in people's heads so that they think I'm contributing, and then just not posting as much so that people have less evidence to use against me. It works quite well, but I don't think there's really any way to say Cypher definitely did that here.
Assuming you are telling the truth.
 
A major point I'd like to raise is these two posts:

These two posts were made consecutively. Call it confusion on his part if you want, but I see it as a backpedal.
I responded to morda two posts later after he made the first post sort of explaining why someone claiming a townie character of Bidoof does not automatically make them town, so if morda understood what I wrote, I wouldn't consider it a backpedal.

He also hasn't made a post longer than the first one I quoted in this entire game. Very fluffy and very contentless, and only interaction with other players is with TGK really.
Agreed here.

A major point in favour of a @Cypher333 lynch right now is the big outburst he made. I have used a similar tactic in the past as scum to make my name stick in people's heads so that they think I'm contributing, and then just not posting as much so that people have less evidence to use against me. It works quite well, but I don't think there's really any way to say Cypher definitely did that here.
Cyper doesn't get to me as that sort of person, tbh. But, it's always possible, although a bit of a weak reason to lynch when there is tgk and yourself as options already.
 
If I'm scum, why would I tell someone to roleblock me? That seems dumb, since I would presumably have a stronger and much scummier role than what I've claimed here.
Assuming you're scum, your first ability could still be a very powerful 1-shot, meaning asking for a roleblock is actually a way to attempt to get inno cred without anything aftereffects of a block being particularly detrimental to you.
 
Cypher has posted literally nothing of substance and nothing useful. That's a great reason to lynch someone with as many posts as him. Ntm the fact that he's voting someone he doesn't think is scum.
 
Assuming you're scum, your first ability could still be a very powerful 1-shot, meaning asking for a roleblock is actually a way to attempt to get inno cred without anything aftereffects of a block being particularly detrimental to you.
Possibly, though one shot scum roles are pretty rare. There isn't really a standard one-shot scum role at all, actually.
I responded to morda two posts later after he made the first post sort of explaining why someone claiming a townie character of Bidoof does not automatically make them town, so if morda understood what I wrote, I wouldn't consider it a backpedal.
That's possible. To go from "Bidoof is a good guy!" to "Bidoof is a good alibi!" in that short amount of time, though, still reads as odd to me.
Cyper doesn't get to me as that sort of person, tbh. But, it's always possible, although a bit of a weak reason to lynch when there is tgk and yourself as options already.
Nor me; it was just something that came to mind. I don't see a huge myriad of reasons to lynch Cypher and I'm not exactly feeling super compelled to do so because of it, so I'm looking through his posts to see if I can find as many reasons to lynch him if Camo apparently does.
That's smart if that person is doc.
Subjective, but sure. I think it's pretty dumb, personally.
 
That's possible. To go from "Bidoof is a good guy!" to "Bidoof is a good alibi!" in that short amount of time, though, still reads as odd to me.

And SS saying that you are "super scummy" and then that he reads you as town, is not odd for you?
 
Possibly, though one shot scum roles are pretty rare. There isn't really a standard one-shot scum role at all, actually.
I think you're just appealing to probability here. Just because it's rare here doesn't mean it's not possible. It could be a recruition, extra kill or janitor for all we know, and none of them sound good to me.
 
I think you're just appealing to probability here. Just because it's rare here doesn't mean it's not possible. It could be a recruition, extra kill or janitor for all we know, and none of them sound good to me.
What's a.. recruition? Never even heard that word before, never mind in a werewolf setting :p.

But yeah, I was appealing a little bit to probability. Obviously I can't speak for what roles the scum have, so we're just gonna have to keep guessing.
I don't get what you mean here.
Squirtle Squad can think my actions are super scummy while still believing I'm town, so the two statements he made aren't mutually exclusive. I guess that mordacazir's statements of Bidoof being both a good guy and a good alibi also aren't mutually exclusive, but given his understanding of game mechanics like safeclaims, I would argue that they are.
 
What's a.. recruition? Never even heard that word before, never mind in a werewolf setting :p.
Ah... that role that converts a townie into a scum.

But yeah, I was appealing a little bit to probability. Obviously I can't speak for what roles the scum have, so we're just gonna have to keep guessing.
Don't appeal to probability; it's scummy.

Squirtle Squad can think my actions are super scummy while still believing I'm town, so the two statements he made aren't mutually exclusive. I guess that mordacazir's statements of Bidoof being both a good guy and a good alibi also aren't mutually exclusive, but given his understanding of game mechanics like safeclaims, I would argue that they are.
Once again, if he understood my explanation of the game mechanics and safeclaims then what you're saying is still weak.
 
At this rate, I'll be looking into morda at the same time I look into one of my main scum reads because they are in similar although still different positions.
 
@thegrovylekid is viewing the thread. Just making it clear for everyone, since he's a prime suspect.

Ah... that role that converts a townie into a scum.


Don't appeal to probability; it's scummy.


Once again, if he understood my explanation of the game mechanics and safeclaims then what you're saying is still weak.
I feel like we could go around in circles for days here, so I'm thinking let's drop this line of discussion? :p

bbninjas, I really, REALLY wish you'd share your scumread. I can understand your reasons for not doing so, but I'm overall unconvinced as far as @Cypher333 is concerned and there is little objectivity with @mordacazir's case. TGK is still a very good option, but hey.
 
Hey, I exist. Reading up on what I missed, can't be super active because I'm in school right now. [I have to be all sneaky-like :p]
 
[I feel like we could go around in circles for days here, so I'm thinking let's drop this line of discussion? :p
Haha okay

bbninjas, I really, REALLY wish you'd share your scumread. I can understand your reasons for not doing so, but I'm overall unconvinced as far as @Cypher333 is concerned and there is little objectivity with @mordacazir's case. TGK is still a very good option, but hey.
The thing is, the evidence against them is more compelling to me over morda and Cypher, but is less compelling than you and tgk, so I want it to pursue it as a lynch option tomorrow or the Day after. I will reveal it if a few more people ask me to, but atm I feel like I can get just a bit more of a read before then. Also, there is less than 48 hrs left in the day... and, well, I think that by the time pressure is over, the deadline will be very close, meaning it could get very messy and unpredictable if votes starting moving around.
 
@Celever, your claim is entirely impossible to prove, and benefits only yourself. It screams safe-claim. Your actions haven't given me any reason to think you aren't scum, either.

@thegrovylekid, give us your reads. Aside from Celever.

I see no reason to vote Cypher or morda over either TGK or Celever. However... Celever brings up a good point with morda's backpedal, immediately agreeing with TGK. However, that means little, since this is his first game, unless TGK flips scum. Otherwise, he's just newbie town.

So it comes down to which of either Celever or TGK give us more information after being lynched. If we lynch Celever and he flips scum, we have little to go off of after that other than TGK probably wouldn't be scum (and by extent, morda). But if we lynch TGK and he flips scum, then we can assume Celever is clear, and should probably look into morda afterwards.
If either flips town though, the other stands a chance of being lynched either way.

##UNVOTE: Celever
##VOTE: thegrovylekid


But Celever, don't try to lead town. Again. I feel like we have to go through this every game now, but any doctor has absolutely no reason to protect you, town or not.
 
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