Finished Werewolf XXX: Future in Stasis - GAME OVER! Town Wins! Now w/ Postgame analysis!

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Camoclone said:
It semi explains why the "nightmare" stopped triggering or whatever happened that canceled it.
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TGK being Darkrai would explain a lot...

But then the question is, was he the Indie or just scum???
Would RF state if the independent faction was eliminated?

When I originally read the OP I assumed Darkrai was indie but then when someone suggested Primal Dialga, it too made perfect sense.
But then with this whole Nightmare business makes me rethink Darkrai as Indie because why would scum have two kinds of attacks? Obviously not knowing what a Nightmare does hurts, but to me (in addition to what RF told me about doctor) I would assume its some kind of kill...
Scum wouldn't have Nightkill and a Nightmare kill (if its a kill) hence Darkrai reads as Indie :)

Thoughts??
 
Luispipe8 said:
I absolutely LOVE when the site decides if I want to follow the game or not. :V
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^This.

Although I'm a bit doubtful about the SS incident, I'm still rooting for Yeowie. Once SS was in the spotlight (no pun intended) he just vanished, and his only post was "you need to claim". Can you act even scummier?
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Also this.

Camoclone said:
What if TGK was Darkrai? Just a thought. I wasn't planning on saying it yet.
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If we assume Darkrai is the indie in this game, then it would make sense that his role would have been hidden. If he's just scum and there's a different indie, then I'd be doubtful, since it seems out of place for a random scum member to be hidden and the others not be (unless they have a janitor of some sort and wiped his role).

Squirtle Squad said:
TGK being Darkrai would explain a lot...
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What do you mean?

But then the question is, was he the Indie or just scum???
Would RF state if the independent faction was eliminated?
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Addressed above, sorta, but if the role was hidden I see no reason why the alignment wouldn't be.

But then with this whole Nightmare business makes me rethink Darkrai as Indie because why would scum have two kinds of attacks? Obviously not knowing what a Nightmare does hurts, but to me (in addition to what RF told me about doctor) I would assume its some kind of kill...
Scum wouldn't have Nightkill and a Nightmare kill (if its a kill) hence Darkrai reads as Indie :)
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Nightmare may have nothing to do with a kill. It could be anything, actually. Since Darkrai appears in nightmares himself, maybe it's a form of role cop or seer? Could be a roleblock. Could have other effects. If Darkrai is scum, or even if he isn't, it's a stretch to assume that he has a kill when there's a separate nightly kill. Like you said, you can use your skill nightly, so we can only assume the Nightmare is nightly as well, so that rules out an extra one-shot kill.

But I do hate to be that guy and point out that Drowzee would be such a fitting safe-claim for Darkrai, since they both can manipulate dreams...
 
Did Squirtle ever claim who he used the nightmare doctor hybrid ability on? Was it Camo?
 
Because if Squirtle did save Camo from the nightmare, then it's likely that he's not indie as his ability is proven. I reckon it would also hint at nightmares being some sort of effect that would negatively affect the target's ability to participate in the game, as Camo is a popular target of those sort of abilities.
 
Whatever.
##UNVOTE ##VOTE: Yeowie
In the future, pressuring is easier when the entire game doesn't immediately jump off the wagon at the same time. Not like we were going to do anything else today.

@Camoclone, TGK wasn't Darkrai and you fully well know this. The only way TGK could be Darkrai is if he can use his nightmare ability beyond the grave; Nightmare got a mention in the end of Day 1 update (meaning Nightmare is a day ability, weirdly). The alternative would be if lynching is the lowest priority in this game, which would on the other hand not cause Nightmare's failure.

Please fully explain to me your thought process behind TGK being Darkrai.

Also, I've noted Luis' eagerness to go with this case. Camo's slipping into a scumread for me and that affiliation with Luis would certainly make a lot of sense since Luis is scum too.
 
Willing to let SS go for now. I can see ways in how that could be a scum/cover role, but I think it's unlikely. ##unpoke: Squirtle Squad
 
To the people saying Primal Dialga could be the indie: Dusknoir was the henchman of Primal Dialga in the game. It makes much more sense for Dialga to be the leader of the scum team (If he even is in the game). The flavour also states that they are not a lesser threat than Darkrai, distinguishing between the two. I definitely believe Darkrai is the indie, especially since there was a night kill when the nightmare was blocked.

Regarding Squirtle Squad, I can say this much. Something about my role makes him less likely to be scum/indie. I am not able to clear him, but the odds of him being scum have been slightly lowered.
 
Celever said:
@Camoclone, TGK wasn't Darkrai and you fully well know this. The only way TGK could be Darkrai is if he can use his nightmare ability beyond the grave; Nightmare got a mention in the end of Day 1 update (meaning Nightmare is a day ability, weirdly). The alternative would be if lynching is the lowest priority in this game, which would on the other hand not cause Nightmare's failure.
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TGK could have used it during the day but it canceled when he died. It makes sense.
 
He means that the reason the nightmare failed was because Darkrai was lynched, I think.
 
Ok! Now that the things I have to say are going to be listened to with a far lesser degree of scum reading my way.

Im going to reveal what actually happened last night! Im not a fan of posting chat logs between the host and myself but its the easiest way to explain what happened.

NOTE: What I'm about to post is why I think TGK was Darkrai.

Reinforce said:
Night 0/Day 1 Results

Dream Patroller: You used your Ability on Camoclone, but it failed.

Forewarn: You were not targeted by any non-Town aligned player on the stated Phases.
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Reinforce said:
Your Ability failed upon using it on Camoclone, yes. But the Nightmare attempt on Camoclone failed too. This is a valid scenario.
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I used my safeguard ability (so this is its proper name?) on Camo but it failed, yet so did the attempt on Camo. Now I don't think RF was actually supposed to reveal that the attempt was on Camo, I was just unsure of his wording of my results so I questioned him on it and he replied with "the nightmare attempt on Camoclone failed too" so he was actually targeted and I failed.

Both abilities failed.

Now the reason why this could easily have been TGK's doing as Darkrai was because he was the one lynched and his lynching could have prevented his ability from resolving.

So yeah thoughts?
Since the spotlight is on me I don't need to worry about self healing from Nightmare because if I do get hit by Nightmare then you will all find out who did it so you can avenge me (if i die or become some kind of potato). But ill probs get Night Killed so that'll suck...


@mordacazir stop avoiding the game, we see you lurking. This is new scum tell (i did it as my first game as scum)
 
If we assume the safe claims are 'townified' variants of their actual roles, then I could see TGK's claimed special ability matching what I'd assume Darkrai would do. We shouldn't write off the indie as dead, though, not until we know for sure.
 
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