Finished Werewolf XXXI: Grima's Rebirth - GAME OVER! TOWN WINS!

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Again I ask the town to help me kill celever as he's scum and is as someone pointed out likely getting healed.

Btw celever you thought my use of the wyvern weapon being posted was a good role fish? : D
 
I believe camo should be lynched because of what he pulled day one, and since that was also an odd numbered day so that would equal to a double bonus to scum1. He bad additude towards SS and how he created and started that band wagon does not sit well with me, and between him and celever always picking on me it does not feel right to not suspect him. Oh and whenever he and/or camo have a confusing death note fight "read death note explained in my signature" it just confuses everyone and takes up valuable posting space for things such as my convoluted ramblings and crap posting.
 
What about Celever?
Don't bother trying to get contribution out of him. He hasn't managed it yet despite me asking straight up questions to do so. He's still only talked about not-me-or-Camo once and that was that hilariously bad post about Jabber.

@Professor Palutena, my hand is forced in communicating with EM a lot because he's killing me. I know that the town's primary asset is its numbers, and I've talked about this yesterday too when people have brought it up. Once EM is done killing me, he's gonna kill Camo. Once he's done killing Camo, he could kill anyone else. That means that if Camo is town, which I don't have a particular opinion on right now, we would have a net loss of 1 townie over the course of this game by not lynching EM.

In theory, anyway.
 
I'm going out on a limb here but I think Celever is town. Every game Celever and I are in, we both end up getting into a huge argument calling each other out on things we find scummy, and then we both end up flipping town. It's happened 100% of the time and I'm going to believe him this time, gambler's fallacy be damned.

I've read most of day three. It appeared that Vom mod-confirmed E_m's role? http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thr...rth-day-3-is-here.127738/page-59#post-2777644

I don't want to sift through 59 pages to try and find E_m's claim, if it exists, so I appeal to you all on this one

I also believe fairly strongly in Lynch All Liars, if you are caught in a lie you had better have an A+ reason for doing so that paid off in a big way or you should be policy lynched.

With all that said, I'm super paranoid about safe claims so I think p much everything is a safe claim unless it's confirmed
 
I'm going out on a limb here but I think Celever is town. Every game Celever and I are in, we both end up getting into a huge argument calling each other out on things we find scummy, and then we both end up flipping town. It's happened 100% of the time and I'm going to believe him this time, gambler's fallacy be damned.

I've read most of day three. It appeared that Vom mod-confirmed E_m's role? http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thr...rth-day-3-is-here.127738/page-59#post-2777644

I don't want to sift through 59 pages to try and find E_m's claim, if it exists, so I appeal to you all on this one

I also believe fairly strongly in Lynch All Liars, if you are caught in a lie you had better have an A+ reason for doing so that paid off in a big way or you should be policy lynched.

With all that said, I'm super paranoid about safe claims so I think p much everything is a safe claim unless it's confirmed
I don't think that necessarily mod confirms E_m's role because class skills seem to be the same between real and safe claims, i.e if E_m is scum and Chrom is his safeclaim, then he would still be an archer and therefore that post makes sense.

But yeah, it was a really weird situation.

If you believe in Lynch All Liars, near the end of Day 2 E_m claimed that he had the ability to rolescan someone based on how much HP they had taken over the course of the game to entice people into claiming this information. After a couple people did so, he said that it was a lie, and hasn't expressed any gain the town gets from it yet.
 
I'm throwing up right now so don't expect me to make a super comprehensive post. Reading back now and I'll weigh in on something. Doing it on mobile so no quotes.
 
I disliked Celever's hesitation to vote SIMSANDS yesterday. While I also have my concerns about if BB is actually who he claims he is it didn't make any sense to lynch anyone but SIMSANDS.
 
I don't think that necessarily mod confirms E_m's role because class skills seem to be the same between real and safe claims, i.e if E_m is scum and Chrom is his safeclaim, then he would still be an archer and therefore that post makes sense.

You miss the point. Even if it is a safe claim and his real role is an archer, Vom still confirmed that that is the case.

If you believe in Lynch All Liars, near the end of Day 2 E_m claimed that he had the ability to rolescan someone based on how much HP they had taken over the course of the game to entice people into claiming this information. After a couple people did so, he said that it was a lie, and hasn't expressed any gain the town gets from it yet.

I'll look into it
 
@Celever - When you said bbninjas will probably be killed tonight, you assumed he is town- there is nothing objective about that, nor does it help to explain what is a lie detector.

On the other hand,

@bbninjas- How is it logical that you are still alive? Why should the scum team fully believe when you said it is only one time use? seems odd to me.
 
Found it~

Lol no, I lied for an entirely different reason, and it was to try to lure out celever as scum.
You se I see celever and camo as the scummiest players here, I attacked Celever last night and I said I had an item to see who attacked him to gain credibility on the issue. This was to then see IF celever would claim he was attacked at all, or IF he were to say he knew who attacked him, who he would blame. Because if he lied in either case I had the mod pms to prove that he thus lied somewhere along the line and was therefor scum.

I don't understand why you would need to gain credibility for attacking someone. It's not like anyone is going to refute you if you say you did it. (As an aside, attacking other players isn't necessarily anti-town since scum players have HP too. It's wifom to assume a character is scum because they attacked someone)

You had good intentions but you went about it the complete wrong way. As others have already pointed out, Celever would have had no way of knowing who attacked him and has nothing to lose by lying about being attacked, so I don't get how you were reasonably expecting him to lie about it.

I have seen that you are soft cleared so I checked around to find out how. I found no claim, just that you got some messages and then Ice Espeon came forward and claimed Lissa.

And everyone accepted this at face value? Come on now. This is clearly a scum gambit; both Chrom and Lissa are safe claims, and both you and Ice Espeon are scum.

##VOTE: Empoleon_master

I'm going to admit I kinda skimmed over the posts where Celever was talking about the discrepancies in your role because I do not understand this game (that is, Fire Emblem) at all. That, and your poorly executed gambit, is reason enough to policy lynch you. Lynching you is also highly beneficial because if you are actually Chrom, we will have another clear, and if you're not, well, IE can kiss his ass goodbye.

Votes please.
 
@bbninjas- How is it logical that you are still alive? Why should the scum team fully believe when you said it is only one time use? seems odd to me.[/QUOTE] There was a game where the scum were making what I thought were the stupidest plays on the planet. Their kills made no sense to me and were not at all who I was predicting they would kill. After the game was over I read in the scum chat that they were just picking randos to nk because everyone's reads on who the scum were were dead wrong.

It's because of that that I've tried to stop putting too much stock in who was or wasn't killed during the night. The odds of your reasons matching the scum's reasons are pretty low.
 
And that's what I get for not utilizing preview post.
 
@Celever - When you said bbninjas will probably be killed tonight, you assumed he is town- there is nothing objective about that, nor does it help to explain what is a lie detector.

On the other hand,

@bbninjas- How is it logical that you are still alive? Why should the scum team fully believe when you said it is only one time use? seems odd to me.
There are two scumteams. The other scumteam doesn't want bb seering them if he's scum any more than the town does.
Found it~



I don't understand why you would need to gain credibility for attacking someone. It's not like anyone is going to refute you if you say you did it. (As an aside, attacking other players isn't necessarily anti-town since scum players have HP too. It's wifom to assume a character is scum because they attacked someone)

You had good intentions but you went about it the complete wrong way. As others have already pointed out, Celever would have had no way of knowing who attacked him and has nothing to lose by lying about being attacked, so I don't get how you were reasonably expecting him to lie about it.

I have seen that you are soft cleared so I checked around to find out how. I found no claim, just that you got some messages and then Ice Espeon came forward and claimed Lissa.

And everyone accepted this at face value? Come on now. This is clearly a scum gambit; both Chrom and Lissa are safe claims, and both you and Ice Espeon are scum.

##VOTE: Empoleon_master

I'm going to admit I kinda skimmed over the posts where Celever was talking about the discrepancies in your role because I do not understand this game (that is, Fire Emblem) at all. That, and your poorly executed gambit, is reason enough to policy lynch you. Lynching you is also highly beneficial because if you are actually Chrom, we will have another clear, and if you're not, well, IE can kiss his ass goodbye.

Votes please.
Thank you so much for subbing into this game and being the only other player thinking about EM rationally! <3
##UNVOTE VOTE: Empoleon_master

bb is still scum. Right now I'm thinking a bb / Prof P / TGK or KX scumteam on one side and EM / IE / simsands on the other.
 
scattered mind could also be on the first team mentioned. I've noticed a bit of buddying between him and bb & Prof P.
 
Umm how was I possibly mod cleared?
As for celever being stabbed by me I was giving him an opportunity to lie and potentially say that X town member attacked him and would thus be lying his behind off thus celever = scum.
 
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