Finished Werewolf XXXI: Grima's Rebirth - GAME OVER! TOWN WINS!

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quakingpunch73 said:
I still think PP is scum, as it wouldn't make sense for town to have a passive like that, and I highly doubt that scum would have an active that gives a townie a ninja effect.
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But if I have the ninja passive, why would I show up on reports on other days?

Scum having an active ninja makes the most sense here imo and I think it's the most realistic expectation.

After Reinforce suggested that I was scum head yesterday, obviously that meant the trackers/watchers would be on me (and, of course, you both were). Especially after the doctor claim that you guys would try to verify. Knowing that you guys would be on me like a hawk instead of the scum killers, they could afford to send the scum killer to kill someone. Making me not show up on reports would obviously throw my claim into question, because what kind of doctor doesn't visit anyone, especially in a game with this many cleared townies.

Also for what it's worth, I wasn't notified that I got blocked which seems to suggest that I wasn't impacted by Celever's role. So my protection most likely went through, even though it didn't matter thanks to Celever.

Finally, while I know Role Spec and flavor hunting is bad, I want to mention that Aversa (one of the remaining Plegians; it's obviously Validar and Aversa) gets the Rally Movement skill. Like all of the other rally abilities we've seen (squirtle squad's Rally Speed and bbninjas' Rally Luck) it's a command ability meaning it impacts someone else. We also know that Aversa has this ability because of how close Vom and Keeper are sticking to flavor. I can't think of what else Rally Movement would do aside from creating a ninja modifier.

##VERB: Luispipe8

Curious as to how his ability seemingly got blocked by Celever last night as there was no announcement (and Celever blocks anti-town abilities sooooooo). Also feel it's important to note that he attacked two cleared townies with his weapon.
 
I didn't block the announcement; I can say this with certainty. While I did block the kill, it also appears as though something else happened yesterday. Just like a mass hook or something.

Which is exactly what RF predicted while he was alive, and it's weirding me out.
 
But if there was a mass hook, wouldn't that block you. Then again, it wouldn't matter that much considering the same role is achieved. But from what it sounds like, you didn't get blocked.

Nothing in RF's role suggests this kind of thing and I doubt Vom/Keeper would hide that part of a role PM.
 
Professor Palutena said:
But if there was a mass hook, wouldn't that block you. Then again, it wouldn't matter that much considering the same role is achieved. But from what it sounds like, you didn't get blocked.

Nothing in RF's role suggests this kind of thing and I doubt Vom/Keeper would hide that part of a role PM.
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I wasn't blocked, but I also know that Luis wasn't blocked by me. This means that there were more forces at play last night than just my action.

I know that I wasn't blocked because I got an update at the end of the night telling me that my ability protected me from two separate uses of Dark Tomes on me. This is very useful information to have flavour-wise, because it all but confirms Aversa and Validar as scum, because both can reclass into Sorcerers. While the Sorcerer class doesn't wield Tomefaire, regular Mages can't use dark magic, so it seems probable that KoN and Vom found a way to get around those semantics.

This random anonymity has appeared in a couple of results now, though, and it's weird.
 
Aversa also has Shadowgift as an ability and so can use Dark Tomes without being a sorceror. Dark Flier Aversa can use said Dark tomes while also having the Rally Movement I brought up earlier.

Also want to bring up the Sorcerer skill "Vengeance". Flavor wise this class skill only works if the user has taken damage, and so we could probably see it as the weapon skill like Tomefaire. We could probably look into who we damaged, and thus activated Vengeance, because they couldn't use Dark tomes without being damaged. This would work for Validar since he's the Sorcerer, but it probably wouldn't work for Aversa considering she could use the Dark tomes with Shadowgift.

The flavor hunting behind that strategy is super lame but I think it works considering that the hosts are pretty much sticking 1:1 to flavor.
 
scattered mind said:
What do you mean by scum head?
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Scum head = Godfather

Like the guy who does the scum kill.

He pretty much said that killing me would stop the upcoming scum kill which we interpreted to mean that I was the scum godfather.

However, I wasn't killed and the scum kill was stopped which means Reinforce was wrong sooooo....

Also above post was @Celever.
 
Professor Palutena said:
Aversa also has Shadowgift as an ability and so can use Dark Tomes without being a sorceror. Dark Flier Aversa can use said Dark tomes while also having the Rally Movement I brought up earlier.

Also want to bring up the Sorcerer skill "Vengeance". Flavor wise this class skill only works if the user has taken damage, and so we could probably see it as the weapon skill like Tomefaire. We could probably look into who we damaged, and thus activated Vengeance, because they couldn't use Dark tomes without being damaged. This would work for Validar since he's the Sorcerer, but it probably wouldn't work for Aversa considering she could use the Dark tomes with Shadowgift.

The flavor hunting behind that strategy is super lame but I think it works considering that the hosts are pretty much sticking 1:1 to flavor.
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Shadowgift is a skill in-game, so it's more likely than not not going to be her ability here. It's possible, but I think rather improbable. Walhart's ability wasn't his character-exclusive skill IIRC.

Vengeance is a weird theory and not worth outing who on the town can attack and who can't.
 
Celever said:
Shadowgift is a skill in-game, so it's more likely than not not going to be her ability here. It's possible, but I think rather improbable. Walhart's ability wasn't his character-exclusive skill IIRC.
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Walhart's ability was his class skill likely because Conqueror has no class skills. Note how he only had one class skill, while every other role had two, except for Grima who had four, who doesn't have any class skills, just his skills as a boss.

Dark Flier has class skills (Rally Movement and Galeforce) meaning if they were going to incorporate Shadowgift, it'd have to be the character ability.
 
So if we are flavor hunting, then I'm thinking of possible safe-claims for scum. Right now, I'm thinking that Tharja could be a safe-claim for Validar, as she is the only character left with Dark Mage as a starting class, and Sumia as a safe claim for Aversa due to the same criteria being met.
 
Professor Palutena said:
Walhart's ability was his class skill likely because Conqueror has no class skills. Note how he only had one class skill, while every other role had two, except for Grima who had four, who doesn't have any class skills, just his skills as a boss.

Dark Flier has class skills (Rally Movement and Galeforce) meaning if they were going to incorporate Shadowgift, it'd have to be the character ability.
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It's unlikely that Shadowgift would be Aversa's ability though, IMO. Other abilities have been super strong. Being able to use dark tomes in any class? Not so much.
 
Celever said:
o_O How the hell does Aptitude have anything to do with handing out Second Seals? It's irrelevant to your alignment because scum were given safeclaims, but I'll definitely be asking Vom about this in the post-game. :p
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No clue. But it's my role.

@Celever @Professor Palutena @Camoclone @Luispipe8

Think logically. Go check the blurb for when you got your seal. It involves a chicken, right? Who has Aptitude? Donnel. What does Donnel do? He lives on a farm before joining the shepherds. What do farms generally have? Chickens.

Celever said:
Nono, I explained it right here. Don't dumbtell.
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Your "explanation" is literally just saying I slipped and voting for me. Try again.
 
quakingpunch73 said:
So if we are flavor hunting, then I'm thinking of possible safe-claims for scum. Right now, I'm thinking that Tharja could be a safe-claim for Validar, as she is the only character left with Dark Mage as a starting class, and Sumia as a safe claim for Aversa due to the same criteria being met.
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Ricken could also be a safe claim for Validar since they both are mages, and we all know who claimed Ricken...
 
Honestly any pressure on TGK is pointless since he's clearly town. As I stated a while ago, being able to give out second seals just seems too game breaking for a scum role so I feel confident in saying he's town. Right now Scattered, PP, and PMJ are possibly the only ones at the moment who have a high chance of flipping scum.
 
thegrovylekid said:
Your "explanation" is literally just saying I slipped and voting for me. Try again.
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If that was my entire case on you, no one else would have voted. Seriously, you can't not actually be seeing this rn. I told you exactly where you scumslip led in the same line as my vote on you. Read the whole post Dx
 
Celever said:
If that was my entire case on you, no one else would have voted. Seriously, you can't not actually be seeing this rn. I told you exactly where you scumslip led in the same line as my vote on you. Read the whole post Dx
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I read the whole post several times. The only tine you mention me is when you pretty much say "TGK slipped" and then vote for me.
 
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