Finished Werewolf XXXI: Grima's Rebirth - GAME OVER! TOWN WINS!

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For what it's worth, I doubt PMJ is Sumia.

I recall @scattered mind claiming Day 1 that he had the same abilities as Squirtle Squad, who was the Pegasus Knight Cordelia. Sumia is the only other Pegasus Knight that could have Falcon Knight by Day 1, considering a Night 0 start.

Emmeryn is dead according to game flavor. So it's just Maribelle vs Aversa. But I know PMJ isn't Maribelle.

I had a Seed of Trust QT with Reinforce Night 1 and he used his scan skill on Vracken and got Maribelle, while also receiving a lecture on public etiquette (Vracken should know what this means, judging by the info Reinforce gave me).

So game, set and match PMJ.

...can i be cleared now? ;_;
 
Why Prof P is lying:
1) The main reason is way too much prior knowledge about the scumteam. Observe:
  • Speculation as to a ninja role since morda's first results outing of Reinforce on Day 3. Assumption that this ninja role is active and not passive, when only a passive version of the role has been used on this site since I've started playing here. AFAIK, Prof P doesn't play elsewhere. Therefore, scum has an active ninja ability in this game, which makes sense given all the trackers and watchers.
  • Assumption that Shadowgift is an ability and not a skill. In-game, Shadowgift is a skill. The assumption that it is an ability in this game is an irrational leap which doesn't make sense, especially when Walhart's character-specific skill wasn't his ability. I'm not saying Shadowgift isn't Aversa's ability, but Prof P made this conclusion long before he could have known about it.
  • Assumption that Aversa was in Dark Flier form. If he came out at the start of the day and said "I scanned PMJ last night he has Rally Movement which is a Dark Flier skill and Aversa is Dark Flier and I know it can't be Sumia (disproven by scattered now) or Maribelle and Emmeryn is probably dead because of maybe flavour reasons so PMJ has to be Aversa" then I would have been more receptive. But he didn't actually build this weak case from the get go. He assumed that Aversa was a Dark Flier because he is Aversa (or he screwed over his scum partner and Prof P's Validar). This is all on the spot lying. Why's it lying?
2) Contradicting the truth:
  • He's only made one contradiction so far -- almost another one, which I will push him on when he's not expecting it later on. Right now, his contradiction is that Reinforce scanned Vracken on Night 1. Reinforce targeted Vracken at a later date, as he showed up on a tracker/watcher report, right? Why would RF scan Vracken twice? Prof P knew about Vracken's Ability from elsewhere and used Reinforce as a ploy because he remembered RF had targeted the guy at some point.
@quakingpunch73 don't forget that scum have been given safe claims. The game isn't as simple as that.
 
Why Prof P is lying:
1) The main reason is way too much prior knowledge about the scumteam. Observe:
  • Speculation as to a ninja role since morda's first results outing of Reinforce on Day 3. Assumption that this ninja role is active and not passive, when only a passive version of the role has been used on this site since I've started playing here. AFAIK, Prof P doesn't play elsewhere. Therefore, scum has an active ninja ability in this game, which makes sense given all the trackers and watchers.
I do play elsewhere, so this point is invalid.

  • Assumption that Shadowgift is an ability and not a skill. In-game, Shadowgift is a skill. The assumption that it is an ability in this game is an irrational leap which doesn't make sense, especially when Walhart's character-specific skill wasn't his ability. I'm not saying Shadowgift isn't Aversa's ability, but Prof P made this conclusion long before he could have known about it.
Skill results say that Shadowgift is PMJ's ability, so it turns out I'm right.
  • Assumption that Aversa was in Dark Flier form. If he came out at the start of the day and said "I scanned PMJ last night he has Rally Movement which is a Dark Flier skill and Aversa is Dark Flier and I know it can't be Sumia (disproven by scattered now) or Maribelle and Emmeryn is probably dead because of maybe flavour reasons so PMJ has to be Aversa" then I would have been more receptive. But he didn't actually build this weak case from the get go. He assumed that Aversa was a Dark Flier because he is Aversa (or he screwed over his scum partner and Prof P's Validar). This is all on the spot lying. Why's it lying?
This is fair, but you yourself admit that you wouldn't have been totally receptive to it later. So I don't think it matters because the outcome, in your opinion, would be the same regardless.

Also considering that I didn't get my results until just now due to mod error, I don't think it's fair that you're penalizing me for it.

2) Contradicting the truth:
  • He's only made one contradiction so far -- almost another one, which I will push him on when he's not expecting it later on. Right now, his contradiction is that Reinforce scanned Vracken on Night 1. Reinforce targeted Vracken at a later date, as he showed up on a tracker/watcher report, right? Why would RF scan Vracken twice? Prof P knew about Vracken's Ability from elsewhere and used Reinforce as a ploy because he remembered RF had targeted the guy at some point.
I don't recall Reinforce saying that he targeted Vracken in-thread. Do you have a source?

Reinforce also had a bunch of abilities and so we can't limit him to just the name cop ability when there are other options.
 
As far as I can tell, branched master seals don't exist so you only get one choice with Master Seals.

So it's possible that no one but Aversa has access to Dark Flier skills. @mordacazir

I know I can only promote to Sage, not Dark Knight. When double o squirtle died Night 1 and was a thief, he could only promote to Assassin, not Trickster. When squirtle squad shared their base role PM day 1, they could only go to Falcon Knight.
 
Sorry, bippa, but you can't just surprise bus me when we agreed to concede.

I am aversa, he's validar. Good game, but that last role block was clutch and sealed it for you meddling kids.
 
I do play elsewhere, so this point is invalid.
And how often has ninja come up as an active role there? Not totally invalid.
Skill results say that Shadowgift is PMJ's ability, so it turns out I'm right.
Yes, and that's why you're scum. How did you know this? I've explained why it was an odd conclusion to make, and you said that Vom only sent you your results a couple hours ago. The fact that you're right is the issue here.
This is fair, but you yourself admit that you wouldn't have been totally receptive to it later. So I don't think it matters because the outcome, in your opinion, would be the same regardless.
Nope, you're dodging the question. I don't care about how receptive I am, and it doesn't matter at all whether I was or not. I would have been substantially more receptive if you'd laid out your case at the start of the day. You have no reason not to have done this, but for the fact that you've realised everyone knows you're scum, and this is your final gambit. @Camoclone can confirm that I've seen you as scum all day based on what I said in our QT chat -- TGK was just more fun to pressure.
Also considering that I didn't get my results until just now due to mod error, I don't think it's fair that you're penalizing me for it.
I'm not penalising you for it. I'm using it as supporting evidence, sure, but this isn't penalisation for mod error, this is just using what few resources the town has available to it.
I don't recall Reinforce saying that he targeted Vracken in-thread. Do you have a source?
This thread is 113 pages long. I'm not gonna farm it for one select quote. I do make notes, but I didn't note the post number for this onbe.
Reinforce also had a bunch of abilities and so we can't limit him to just the name cop ability when there are other options.
We know it wasn't the HP reducing one or the buffing one, so actually we kinda do know which action it was.
 
Oh, right, well I guess I was actually right about Prof P having all this additional info and being scum because of it. That's nice I guess :U. I made a correct case for once wooooooooh!!

Lynch Prof P first? I think so :L
 
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