Finished Werewolf XXXI: Grima's Rebirth - GAME OVER! TOWN WINS!

Status
Not open for further replies.
Why don't you quote the posts where he contributes then?
lol there's really only this:

##thegrovylekid: thegrovylekid

You're thinking too much! Haha, this too is on the defensive is it not?

Oh and here:
Hmm, I don't see EM as scum, and if I recall correctly the games prior to this only had a very small amount of rvs?
I know EM could have just gone to the master document to find out for himself instead of asking, but I don't think he thinks that way tbh...

It didn't stop a group of people of jumping on his wagon so imma look into that when there's more substantial posts to work off,

For now though, I see TGK as the scummiest so I'm keeping my vote where it is,

But if the Empoleon lynch goes through then I'm ok with that too, because the way he posts and floods the thread with random anime and video game references along with none (or misguided) reasoning warrants a policy lynch anyways,

Oh golly... What is even going on here :/

@Celever IE has come forward, for now I'm willing to bet that both Em and ie are town,

Shall we move on?
Oh actually, the contribution evidence is somewhat flawed. Notice when Squirtle Squad at least tried to contribute. In the early couple of days of Day 1, when RVS was still fairly big and the EM thing arose. Then, Camo started pressuring him and he started to focus on him + people attacking him.

Here's the thing I noticed. SS hasn't actually had significant opportunity to contribute. There's been three/four days of the actual Day. About a third to half of that is RVS, which I wouldn't consider it ever having much actual contribution for anyone (but SS did participate, so good stuff there). Then, the EM situation arises and subsequently dies down, and then SS becomes the spotlight. Between the RVS and SS phases of the day, there was maybe under a day of real time where SS could really contribute. This may be a flawed expectation, but I do not expect a lesser experienced town, especially one bred on PB forums, to be contributing in the way you're expecting, Camo, while they are the lynch focus. I can't think of a similar town that actually did contribute in this situation to be honest.
 
First quote is RVS. Second post is nothing of substance. Reread it. He literally says nothing. Third post was so obvious and is doesn't actually help his case at all. So you are saying out of all the posts today he hasn't played towards the town win condition you think he has at all? Wow!
 
I'm town plus different tone plus no contribution means almost guaranteed SS scum.
I wish you were my maths teacher Camo, it'd be way more simple :v

@bbninjas, if you are the primary lynch target and you are town then it is in your best interest to provide an alternative lynch target as a means of saving yourself and furthering the town's efforts in finding scum. If there is not diversity in the town's possible targets then there is no hope left for the primary candidate. It's the main lynch target's responsibility to bring up an alternative so that the option is still open, because if no other targets come up, public enemy #1 is going on the block for sure.

Also, @thegrovylekid's computer is borked for a little while. This is why he hasn't made a lot of posts. I can testify that posting a long post on an iPad, especially on the new forums, is literal hell. >~<
 
I'm more on the "TGK is scum" boat than the SS one since at least SS is making a poor attempt to save his life and dropping claims, while TGK has been lurking, quite often too, and has made not a single attempt to justify why we should not lynch him
 
I'm more on the "TGK is scum" boat than the SS one since at least SS is making a poor attempt to save his life and dropping claims, while TGK has been lurking, quite often too, and has made not a single attempt to justify why we should not lynch him
If you view the forums on a mobile device, it shows your name as lurking for a while after you close the browser. IDK why, it's super dumb.

A weak defence is worse than no defence at all in this instance, because there are tools which SS should be using to defend himself. He didn't take the initiative to post a reads list, nor formulate a case on TGK (he said "TGK is a better target than me <3 <3 <3" a couple times; I do not consider that a case). This shows an on-set of panic more than that which TGK had.

TGK at the very least has a confirmed IRL excuse, being that his laptop broke. SS doesn't have this, and has still contributed less, both offensively and defensively, despite having considerably more pressure on him than what TGK had. This makes him the better lynch candidate.
 
First quote is RVS. Second post is nothing of substance. Reread it. He literally says nothing. Third post was so obvious and is doesn't actually help his case at all.
First quote made a point on TGK. Can't remember if it was an echo or not.
On rereading you may be right on the second post.
He's giving his opinion, which is better than nothing.

Yup. RVS means a lot of town cred.
Yup.

Please read previous games.
Not going to spend my time doing that. Though if you're saying this, it means that you probably know what you're talking about, unless you're relying on my or other's laziness to manipulate town. :3

A weak defence is worse than no defence at all in this instance, because there are tools which SS should be using to defend himself. He didn't take the initiative to post a reads list, nor formulate a case on TGK (he said "TGK is a better target than me <3 <3 <3" a couple times; I do not consider that a case). This shows an on-set of panic more than that which TGK had.
We haven't been able to gauge TGK's "panic" because he sort just disappeared. Also I don't think many people will post a reads a list on PB either, as town. And tools? I think he gave good defence to everything except for the "I'm town".

TGK at the very least has a confirmed IRL excuse, being that his laptop broke. SS doesn't have this, and has still contributed less, both offensively and defensively, despite having considerably more pressure on him than what TGK had. This makes him the better lynch candidate.
TGK has contributed to say SS should be lynched

Also school
 
His claim is very easily a fake if his passive is what we assume it is. After he claimed and no pressure was relieved, he should have posted his passive. To this extent, he's not putting in the work.

Reads lists as town are decently common here, so I'm not sure what you mean. I think you understate the skill level of this site a bit too much TBH, bb. Naturally the meta is different to FoL, but there is definitely a lot of overlap because at the end of the day it's still the same game and similar playing playing it.
 
At this point neither is make much progress in defending themselves, and both have the convenience of technical difficulties.
 
At this point neither is make much progress in defending themselves, and both have the convenience of technical difficulties.
Though SS didn't until like an hour ago, so I don't accept his excuse as a remedy for his behaviour up to this point.
 
That was a lot of reading, also, I may have this open, but not actually be doing Pokebeach stuff, so sometimes I will be viewing but not really.
@Celever I am not really commenting because I seriously underestimated how different this is to live werewolf, so I am trying to wrap my head around all of this.

In my experience day 1 has nothing useful happen except two people not being there for day 2. So for being more useful than any other point so far, fraid not, sorry Celever
 
While SS' character claim is objectively the best waifu of Awakening's first generation, I don't think his claim actually helps out his defense.

Assuming his role is what we think it is (he's a lover with Chrom and dies out of grief when/if Chrom dies. It explains his "particular investment".), it actually doesn't give us much reason to not lynch SS. If it went the other way around and Chrom died as well, I'd be more hesitant because I'd like to avoid losing two townies Day 1.

Gonna keep my vote where it is right now. SS posting some reads would be beneficial for him.

@thegrovylekid Besides SS, do you have any scum reads right now?
Not really. The next-most suspicious one for me is Jabber, who's posted almost nothing outside of votes.
Agree with this.


TGK seemed to be the alternative lynch according to his vote (and words). But why does someone need to provide an alternative lynch? That seems a scummy thing on Day 1 at least because you are pressuring a player to plonk their vote somewhere without much thought if they don't have a strong read.


This. He's just disappeared and otherwise has not provided a defense.


Athena was just up there ^

Anyways, I'm not really feeling the Squirtle lynch. The evidence against him of his "I'm town" is really the only thing that makes me think, because it is certainly a trap mafia can fall into. The defense wasn't amazing but it wasn't unreasonable either, but he would have had a lot of time to think about it by then. I am perhaps slightly aware that SS is starting to buddy/agree with me a lot, which could be him as scum (or as town, I guess) trying to keep my vote off him. Otherwise, all of his other responses to evidence against him seem legitimate.

Meanwhile, TGK disappeared and really has just popped up to say why SS was a better lynch then him. Technically that means there is much, much more evidence against him as he never shot any down through defense.
I can't help it if it's family day and I'm out with my family at Stanley Park and the aquarium for today, no?
Also, @thegrovylekid's computer is borked for a little while. This is why he hasn't made a lot of posts. I can testify that posting a long post on an iPad, especially on the new forums, is literal hell. >~<
This.

I'm more on the "TGK is scum" boat than the SS one since at least SS is making a poor attempt to save his life and dropping claims, while TGK has been lurking, quite often too, and has made not a single attempt to justify why we should not lynch him
I always have PB open, so I don't have to constantly retype the address. I hate typing on this thing so much.

First quote made a point on TGK. Can't remember if it was an echo or not.


We haven't been able to gauge TGK's "panic" because he sort just disappeared. Also I don't think many people will post a reads a list on PokéBeach either, as town. And tools? I think he gave good defence to everything except for the "I'm town".


TGK has contributed to say SS should be lynched
First one he accused me of "thinking too much", even though this game is literally about thinking.
Still stuck on an IPad. Still hate typing on this thing.
SS has contributed to say I should be lynched.


For the record, this took more than 20 minutes to type.
 
Guys, we are way pass the RVS. Where are you?

Work. Got the day off today though but I'm cleaning stuff.

But then, I don't stick around for D1 either, so I'm just looking over posts.

I can see the case on SS, but like most D1 stuff, it's mostly something taken out of context or something made out to be worse than it should be. A thing I've noted though, is that, if we end up with no other lynch choice and go with SS, then, considering his role claim and assuming based on the game canon, if he is telling the truth about his role, we would end up completely confirming E_M's role and alignment, and maybe IE to an extent since their communication is hard to disprove, which is a better result than most D1 would usually give. If not, then obviously he's not town. It's a win-slightly-less-lose-than-usual scenario.

Of course, if a better option than him comes up, that would be welcome. As things stand now, however, my vote near the end of the Day would most likely go to SS.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top