I say they could both be lying. You always have to suspect that everyone is scum here, even if they start a QT with you. Simands could be caughting and paniking over him getting caught, look how quickly celever jumped onto the " please explain" train. Where as with ninjas Naga could be a troll because someone like's grammar too much, hint hint, hint, vom, hint hint. Or ninjas claimed to have a lie detector ability so he could essntially claim anyone that said the phrase is scum.