Finished Werewolf XXXI: Grima's Rebirth - GAME OVER! TOWN WINS!
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@scattered mind /shrugs Just pointing it out as proof that my observation (drawing more from a former host point of view) is correct, it's not like I'm asking you guys to believe me or remove the votes which is what an AtE attempts. All I did was put the quotes.
I'm aware that whatever 'defense' I was asked to give today is just a pretense, and I'm just playing along. I know you guys have made up your minds already after all, since you're talking about me in 3rd person point of view. I've been in this situation before, in earlier WW games, I know how this scenario pans out already --- All those unvotes will be back on me by the end of the day with one or some or all of the reasons: 1) there is no better/safer lynch option 2) voting for someone else isn't going to have an effect, so pile on the votes on the person already at majority, 3) a lynch needs to happen in order to get info. If you imagine any other scenario happening, I'd like to hear it. If you say you're still actually reading my posts while still considering the possibility that you'll change your mind about me, frankly, I'd be very surprised. Let's not kid ourselves, no one else is going to get lynched this day but me.
But by werewolf convention, you're obligated to give me time to post and defend myself, and I have to do exactly that, even though we know the outcome already, which is what I stated above, so we'll just have to get on with it. I'm cool with that. You guys cool with that? Good.
As for my redirection, I don't think the Rift Door is responsible for my re-direction, as long as no one claims to have their targeting re-directed to me, because as it stands now, my re-direction was one-sided. We might have other re-directing items/abilities there that we don't know about yet or haven't been revealed. Nothing noteworthy in terms of abilities/role was reported to me, so if I got targeted in return last night, it either didn't happen or the other player doesn't have a targeting ability/sill or it was something that wasn't in a result. I'm not sure what else could it be at work here, I did get my role name results still.
I'm aware that whatever 'defense' I was asked to give today is just a pretense, and I'm just playing along. I know you guys have made up your minds already after all, since you're talking about me in 3rd person point of view. I've been in this situation before, in earlier WW games, I know how this scenario pans out already --- All those unvotes will be back on me by the end of the day with one or some or all of the reasons: 1) there is no better/safer lynch option 2) voting for someone else isn't going to have an effect, so pile on the votes on the person already at majority, 3) a lynch needs to happen in order to get info. If you imagine any other scenario happening, I'd like to hear it. If you say you're still actually reading my posts while still considering the possibility that you'll change your mind about me, frankly, I'd be very surprised. Let's not kid ourselves, no one else is going to get lynched this day but me.
But by werewolf convention, you're obligated to give me time to post and defend myself, and I have to do exactly that, even though we know the outcome already, which is what I stated above, so we'll just have to get on with it. I'm cool with that. You guys cool with that? Good.
As for my redirection, I don't think the Rift Door is responsible for my re-direction, as long as no one claims to have their targeting re-directed to me, because as it stands now, my re-direction was one-sided. We might have other re-directing items/abilities there that we don't know about yet or haven't been revealed. Nothing noteworthy in terms of abilities/role was reported to me, so if I got targeted in return last night, it either didn't happen or the other player doesn't have a targeting ability/sill or it was something that wasn't in a result. I'm not sure what else could it be at work here, I did get my role name results still.
Yes, and also:
Why is it so odd? Also, why GM DracLord for inactivity when he is on the same level of inactivity?
Voting for simsands while trying to bring people to find another lynch because we won't learn anything from simsands. Why was he so sure we won't learn anything ? sounds off coming from a new player.
You are asking that we will consider that the NK was done by independent with an ability to be invisible to other's abilities? (If I understand correctly) .
Nono, I totally get what you're saying here. Truthfully I'm still considering lynching EM. It has the bonus effect of me not getting attacked again tonight (Wooh!) while also letting us get another result from you, which will be useful if you're somehow town.
I mean, you're not town, because a ninja role doesn't make a lot of sense in this setup (I guess Priam can reclass into Assassin, but he doesn't start there).
Nono, I totally get what you're saying here. Truthfully I'm still considering lynching EM. It has the bonus effect of me not getting attacked again tonight (Wooh!) while also letting us get another result from you, which will be useful if you're somehow town.
I mean, you're not town, because a ninja role doesn't make a lot of sense in this setup (Priam reclasses into Assassin I guess, but that's as close as it gets and he starts as Hero.)
Oh right, he doesn't have the skill any more. I forgot for a bit
Again, anyone have any clue what the cavalier class does? Btw celever intuition tells me someone took 40 damage from my weapon last night and that means someone's a wyvern rider.
Going to quote one of my friends here:
"You know what they say about Assuming. It makes an Ass out of you and me."
So does that mean we should unvote RF, because we're all assuming that he's using a safe claim?
The difference is the Evidence. You don't have any evidence that Celever took the bonus damage, just an assumption. The case on RF has Morda's tracker report.
Yeah, thus far I'm not seeing much from Reinforce besides "You are all gonna kill me anyways, why bother?" That really isn't helping the case.
And still, after re-reading the claim he made, I am still bugged by it. Too be honest, it looks to me like he took the line from one of his Skills, pasted it over his ability, and then deleted the skills.
And about the situation with the Portal/redirector, Draclord did have an ability to chose two players and have their abilities redirected, but to each other. His ability was not picking two players and having all those who were targeting one player target the other, and vice versa. Thus, Robin could not have been the cause of the mysterious rift.
...I have no words to describe how exactly I feel about you and your boneheadness right now.
There is a difference between assuming, or going on intuition, and looking for evidence before jumping to conclusions, which is what we are doing with Reinforce.
And still, after re-reading the claim he made, I am still bugged by it. Too be honest, it looks to me like he took the line from one of his Skills, pasted it over his ability, and then deleted the skills.
And about the situation with the Portal/redirector, Draclord did have an ability to chose two players and have their abilities redirected, but to each other. His ability was not picking two players and having all those who were targeting one player target the other, and vice versa. Thus, Robin could not have been the cause of the mysterious rift.
...I have no words to describe how exactly I feel about you and your boneheadness right now.
There is a difference between assuming, or going on intuition, and looking for evidence before jumping to conclusions, which is what we are doing with Reinforce.
Sorry I just REALLY hate snippy, throw away BS comments like that.
As for the dual spirit door thing, there is no way it was NOT done by two scum both using those items together. Scum using those items would explain celever's adverse reaction and surprise when I showed him the anti wyvern weapon, as if he had known that I had that particular weapon before hand he would have reclassed VERY fast. Btw speaking of him reclassing expect him to change classes tomorrow/ day after next and lose his double vote weight in preparation for me changing classes. This is not convoluted, it just makes sense and be what I would do if I was a scum wyvern rider.
Last thing to note, the only classes that have had double vote weight have been wyvern rider and whatever simandis claimed in the QT.
As for the dual spirit door thing, there is no way it was NOT done by two scum both using those items together. Scum using those items would explain celever's adverse reaction and surprise when I showed him the anti wyvern weapon, as if he had known that I had that particular weapon before hand he would have reclassed VERY fast. Btw speaking of him reclassing expect him to change classes tomorrow/ day after next and lose his double vote weight in preparation for me changing classes. This is not convoluted, it just makes sense and be what I would do if I was a scum wyvern rider.
Last thing to note, the only classes that have had double vote weight have been wyvern rider and whatever simandis claimed in the QT.
Simsands claimed Cavalier, which is what you've been asking for the skills of. They have a double vote weight and 20 HP is taken off each hit they take at night.
Please quote my surprise. I'd be really interested to see why you think I'm a wyvern rider, because I'm, uh, not. :L
I miss read his abilities my bad. Btw since it now appears you are A a cavalier in which case you have double vote weight and should not be complaining about my atacking you due to the damage being exactly ZERO, or you are B a wyvern rider which means you have double vote weight because no town player has targeted you recently with anything but an attack. Please explain why you would be complaining about damage and HP if you're a cavalier which is the best explanation for your double vote weight.
I'm not answering this post right now because it's anti-town if I do. <3
Ok, that's a valid reason, NOT.
Btw #Achievement unlocked caught celever on something he can't answer without a role reveal
And thank you celever for reminding me to look up what cavalier does.
And thank you celever for reminding me to look up what cavalier does.
Explain to me what this "achievement" achieves.Btw #Achievement unlocked caught celever on something he can't answer without a role reveal
And thank you celever for reminding me to look up what cavalier does.
It grants me eternal bragging rites in my own head, as I have finally caught you on something.
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