Finished Werewolf XXXIII: Order in the Court!- Congratulations Law!

[Jabberwock]

I'm convinced Celever is either scum or indie. I've noticed him readily agreeing to what I said twice over the course of the last day without any preamble.

Me too. I felt the pressure would be stronger if it didn't come from me, so thank you for reading my mind and doing that for me!

I accused simsands of being scum because he didn't take Celever's scum claim as sarcasm, and Celever said he agreed with me and offering a halfhearted excuse for not calling it out before.

I think that Jabber has raised a super good point with his case on bb reading that in 4 minutes. It took me at least 10 to read through it myself, and bbninjas hasn't been reading me as scum before that post. Possibly OMGUS, possibly adding pressure to his buddy's case... probably not town. My vote remains.

Later, I mentioned that bb couldn't've read through sim's entire case on Celever in the space of four minutes, and Celever jumped on that too.) Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but this sort of buddying doesn't feel like Celever's playstyle at all. It almost makes me feel like he's trying to frame me in the event that he flips scum.

And then he starts speculating about the vig being an indie. That seems a little out there, no? Rather reminiscent of what I was called out for in Fire Emblem: making a far-fetched claim that I only could have thought of had I known it to be true.

##UNVOTE ##VOTE: CELEVER

 

[Squirtle Squad]

@Jabberwock it's not that out there? TGK already proposed that PMJ's death could have been at the hands of a serial killer, which is an indie role.
(Although I still see celever as scum)

@Celever why did you want to end discussion early?

 

[thegrovylekid]

PMJ is town. I have seen his role PM and can confirm that it matches up with certain effects, though he doesn't want me to post it.

 

[VinculumStellarum]

PMJ is town.

Told you de Killer killed him!

 

[Celever]

I'm convinced Celever is either scum or indie. I've noticed him readily agreeing to what I said twice over the course of the last day without any preamble.

I accused simsands of being scum because he didn't take Celever's scum claim as sarcasm, and Celever said he agreed with me and offering a halfhearted excuse for not calling it out before.

Later, I mentioned that bb couldn't've read through sim's entire case on Celever in the space of four minutes, and Celever jumped on that too.) Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but this sort of buddying doesn't feel like Celever's playstyle at all. It almost makes me feel like he's trying to frame me in the event that he flips scum.

And then he starts speculating about the vig being an indie. That seems a little out there, no? Rather reminiscent of what I was called out for in Fire Emblem: making a far-fetched claim that I only could have thought of had I known it to be true.

##UNVOTE ##VOTE: CELEVER

I don't see the case here, honestly. I've agreed with you on two of your points... this uh, isn't any kind of evidence or even remotely scummy behaviour??

@Celever why did you want to end discussion early?

I don't know what you're referring to.

PMJ is town. I have seen his role PM and can confirm that it matches up with certain effects, though he doesn't want me to post it.

Are you certain of this? Last time you said this it was about Pearl Fey, and look how that turned out.

 

[thegrovylekid]

Are you certain of this? Last time you said this it was about Pearl Fey, and look how that turned out.

Unless PMJ has a role which gives other people the flavour of his safe claim when he activates his ability while also making perfect flavour sense with the safe claim, then yes I'm sure.

I don't know what you're referring to.

He's referring to how you talked about when we reach game freeze and the hosts weren't on discussion should stop.

 

[Celever]

Unless PMJ has a role which gives other people the flavour of his safe claim when he activates his ability while also making perfect flavour sense with the safe claim, then yes I'm sure.

If the safe claim doesn't make sense with his flavour then it's not safe. That's literally the point of a safe claim. Do you have any better proof?

He's referring to how you talked about when we reach game freeze and the hosts weren't on discussion should stop.

Oh, I thought bb already responded to that. It was just common courtesy, and is what has always been the case. IDR the last example because my head is filled with useless academia instead. :U

But yeah, it was just a general comment anyway. Not like I didn't proceed to then make a post myself.

 

[VinculumStellarum]

##StupidVoteWeightIWantToBeUsefulAtSomePoint: Celever

I know this is OMGUS, but it doesn't even affect you because my vote weight is zero due to your placing a vote on me.

 

[thegrovylekid]

If the safe claim doesn't make sense with his flavour then it's not safe. That's literally the point of a safe claim. Do you have any better proof?

so you're suggesting that PMJ is scum with a role that uses his safe claim as flavour? Because I've seen his role and it wouldn't match up with any of the killers.

 

[thegrovylekid]

*By that I mean that he doesn't share a profession with the killers.

 

[GM DracLord]

I dont know why PMJ not really sharing his actual role. Since if his town, the role could easily be used against town when a mass claim happen.. (Just like how I survive in previous game when I was the last scum member.).. Hence i belive PMJ is probably scum.

 

[Luispipe8]

Ok, I'm surprised I wasn't nightkilled.

Anyways... I killed Miyami. Wasn't sure about his evidence theft, but turns out she was town after all. :v

I also ate a meal, but wasn't poisoned... Or at least not yet.

Need to finish up a Chemistry report, so most likely I'll be back until later tonight.

 

[thegrovylekid]

Ok, I'm surprised I wasn't nightkilled.

Anyways... I killed Miyami. Wasn't sure about his evidence theft, but turns out she was town after all. :v

I also ate a meal, but wasn't poisoned... Or at least not yet.

Need to finish up a Chemistry report, so most likely I'll be back until later tonight.

For as much as I'm questioning you being a combination announcer Seer Vig, it fits who you are, so it passes.

 

[VinculumStellarum]

Anyways... I killed Miyami. Wasn't sure about his evidence theft, but turns out she was town after all. :v

I see this as a complete opening for a lynch, actually, but I don't feel the need to vote you and my vote isn't worth anything anyways now that Celever voted me. Once I get voted for, I'm basically useless unless I somehow get a mind for the meta and manage to convince people to vote in my stead.

 

[Luispipe8]

I'm 98% confirmed town, name confirmed by 2 players already. :v And I'm willing to claim now that I'm vanilla, but you'd have to wait until I'm done with my work.

 

[Jabberwock]

I'm assuming both Luis's seer and vig abilities are single-use, as they'd be pretty overpowered if they weren't. While I disagree with his decision to attack Miyami, it's definitely not worth lynching him over it.

##StupidVoteWeightIWantToBeUsefulAtSomePoint: Celever

I know this is OMGUS, but it doesn't even affect you because my vote weight is zero due to your placing a vote on me.

With the attention you keep drawing to it, I almost want to believe that your vote does something, even if it doesn't count as a normal vote.

I don't see the case here, honestly. I've agreed with you on two of your points... this uh, isn't any kind of evidence or even remotely scummy behaviour??

It doesn't really match up with what I've seen of your town meta in the last couple of games. Granted, I haven't played that many games, but I also don't have any better ideas. My vote's going to stay on you until I see a good reason to take it off.

 

[thegrovylekid]

I see this as a complete opening for a lynch, actually, but I don't feel the need to vote you and my vote isn't worth anything anyways now that Celever voted me. Once I get voted for, I'm basically useless unless I somehow get a mind for the meta and manage to convince people to vote in my stead.

There's a role called Jack of all Trades, or JOAT. They usually have one-shot versions of other roles or abilities. Luis is one of them.

 

[VinculumStellarum]

With the attention you keep drawing to it, I almost want to believe that your vote does something, even if it doesn't count as a normal vote.

Well, slight reveal here, but my vote would normally count for three unless voted for. That's kinda why I'm making a bit of a deal about it, and I wish I could actually be useful in daytime. I also don't understand how my vote could possibly do something right now.

 

[Luispipe8]

You are Larry Butz, the defendant in this case, and you are aligned with The Law. Despite being happy about spending time with Nick and Maya, you’re upset about Betty’s murder. All of those odd jobs… put to waste on a murder victim!

Active Ability: Artistry

You once worked as an apprentice for Elise Deuxnim, the famous children’s book author. Before she was killed, she taught you how to be an expert at drawing people’s portrait’s. Once during the game, you may PM me the name of a player. You will have that person’s role PM revealed to you.

Active Ability: Samurai Spear!

Despite working as a Steel Samurai impersonator at a theme park, you can be just as helpful as the real thing! Once during the game, during either the night or day phase, you may PM me the name of a player. That player will be immediately killed.

Active Ability: Camera Watch

You once worked at KB security under the supervision of Wendy Oldbag, when you manned the security system to track evildoers. Once during the game, during the night phase, you may PM me the name of a player. You will learn all the information that player learns that night.

Win Condition: All criminals and evildoers are arrested

I was rather surprised my kill went through all effects and she could be insta-killed. And this isn't my first time as a JOAT ( I was Pikachu in Teal's game), but I guess I went a bit paranoid and performed the kill expecting the scum to kill me.

Camera Watch was used on Dogger last night, but he knew nothing prior to his death.

 

[Robin Aisaga]

I'm waiting to see how long it takes for someone to correct Robin Aisaga's assumption that I was scum. If none of the veteran players say anything then I will feel much better about who I targeted last night.

Well, It's a good thing PMJ said this. There's no reason for PMJ to be uncooperative If he was town he could've just said so. So either he is a mediocre player and gives up helping town because ''I'm dead anyway'' or he's scum and he tries to hide information. Also he said ''feel much better about who I targeted last night''
So, the character profile is probably just a sad attempt to create doubts, be careful with what you quote from the deadchat TGK!

Also I believe Luispipe. I don't think he could make those abilities up... So... you killed pal huh? I think it would've been better if you used samurai spear on Camoclone so we could've used the day lynch for someone else? Anyway targeting a player without much to go from sounds like a misplay.