Finished Werewolf XXXIII: Order in the Court!- Congratulations Law!

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I Noted the Bb being poisoned thing before.

I'm working on a theory that poisoning may be the night kill? Unless scum have two killing methods? That's bizarre!

Anyways gotta go to work now so I'll be back later
 
Celever said:
With that said, I am still getting on your case tomorrow, assuming bb doesn't come out with a seer role or something in the dead chat (speaking of, nice rolefish below here simsands! <3). I can't see any of your play so far really being from a townie, but apparently it is, so what do I know? u_u
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You just said it yourself. Bb is dying tonight, lets not kid ourselves. If he knows of anything that could clear two townies, he should say it now. Especially since one of those is up for lynch.
 
simsands said:

You just said it yourself. Bb is dying tonight, lets not kid ourselves. If he knows of anything that could clear two townies, he should say it now. Especially since one of those is up for lynch.
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Just noticed you mentioned the dead chat. This would be fine if we could guarantee tgk's survival tonight.
 
simsands said:
Why do you want the scum to not waste a night kill?
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???
Do you not understand? All I was saying yesterday, is that scum wouldn't bother killing someone who was going to die, so they may as well come for rad so we know who not to lynch? It's not that complicated an idea..
 
Squirtle Squad said:
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Do you not understand? All I was saying yesterday, is that scum wouldn't bother killing someone who was going to die, so they may as well come for rad so we know who not to lynch? It's not that complicated an idea..
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I understand what you're saying. However, wouldn't one of the best scenarios be the scum team killing the one who is already going to die? ;)
 
Okay, I just made a link between EM and Camo. Camo tried to push for EM's lynch iirc. This makes lots of sense if they were both of the same alignment. No offense to EM, but EM being on the scum team could easily be detrimental, hence why Camo would push for his lynch. EM is an irritation and distraction for the town in lots of games, so I would've expected scum wanting him alive moreso then dead.

This then explains why EM wanted to scoot from the game ASAP. The pressure of being scum + a scumbuddy busing you would do that.

It also explains why Grant is lurking. Grant lurking can be a scumtell for him iirc, and when he does pop up, it's just posting reads with no intention on actually participating in the scumhunt.

I'm happy with testing out the King X claim anyways due to its potential benefit for the town, and I really haven't been confident for his lynch. Celever is so townie, so dont want him lynched either. Jesi, my other target, has a weird role of the o vote weight, which is difficult to see on scum, so I'm not wanting to test that lynch just yet. So, grant seems like a mighty good option to me!

##UNVOTE: King X ##VOTE: grant
 
quakingpunch73 said:
"Well then..." said The Judge, "With just under 48 hours left in the day, we are deadlocked! This means that by the end of the day, if we are still deadlocked, I am forced to use RANDOM.ORG to decide which of the 2 suspects is worthy of arrest. If anyone has any new evidence to present to the court, now is the time!"
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Just noticed this. @hosts... this is very confusing. Are you just reminding us that a tie will cause RNG to decide the lynch?
 
bbninjas said:
I've explained why Celever is town soooo much and you just seem to ignore the facts laid out for you. Why Jabber is town is for me to know for the moment.
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From what I can recall, you've posted a few townie things he's done, and given a WIFOM-y argument about his interactions with Camo. This is no proof and doesn't outweigh the scummy things he has done. If I am to believe Celever is town, I need more than your personal opinions.
 
simsands said:
From what I can recall, you've posted a few townie things he's done, and given a WIFOM-y argument about his interactions with Camo. This is no proof and doesn't outweigh the scummy things he has done. If I am to believe Celever is town, I need more than your personal opinions.
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List of scummy things he has done please.
 
It shouldn't take that long to post a list of scummy things he has done since it is obvious you have been watching his posts carefully.
 
simsands said:
From his posts, I can see the following things:
  • Tunneling
  • Contradictions
  • Some clever backpedals
  • Role-fishing
  • Buddying
  • Too quick to dismiss some cases
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simsands said:
  • AtE
  • Pushing suspicion on confo-town
  • AtE
  • Oddly specific and complicated logic
  • AtE
  • Arrogant
  • AtE
  • AtE
  • AtE
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  • wasn't tunneling
  • what contradictions?
  • what backpedals and is not a scumtell
  • perhaps a little
  • where/is not a scumtell by itself
  • is normal for Celever

  • not a scumtell
  • is odd
  • not a scumtell
  • is normal for Celever
  • not a scumtell
  • wasnt arrogant
  • not a scumtell
  • not a scumtell
  • not a scumtell
  • not a scumtell
So, what are the legitimate points here?
  • rolefishing slightly early game
  • casting suspicion on the legitimacy of TGK's role
The rolefish is simply explainable for being Celever pressuring me not with this intention, but rather to get a read. The casting suspicion doesn't make sense, but is not a scumtell by itself, considering a scum would be terribly stupid to be so vocal like that.

In fact, if you want to get to statistics, only 12.5% of your case is legitimate. Compare that to my reasons on why he is likely town, all of which you apparently ignored, btw, except for like one or two.

tl;dr you are grasping straws
 
Celever said:
@GM DracLord, you've been way too quiet since planting your vote on me. Scummy under the radar tactics. Justify your vote now, or change it.
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I still believe everything happen between you n Camo previous days were just something to throw people off any possible relation you to have. I'm not changing my mind just yet. Regardless you think my vote is justifiable, I wouldn't change it just for that sake.
 
bbninjas said:
  • wasn't tunneling
  • what contradictions?
  • what backpedals and is not a scumtell
  • perhaps a little
  • where/is not a scumtell by itself
  • is normal for Celever

  • not a scumtell
  • is odd
  • not a scumtell
  • is normal for Celever
  • not a scumtell
  • wasnt arrogant
  • not a scumtell
  • not a scumtell
  • not a scumtell
  • not a scumtell
So, what are the legitimate points here?
  • rolefishing slightly early game
  • casting suspicion on the legitimacy of TGK's role
The rolefish is simply explainable for being Celever pressuring me not with this intention, but rather to get a read. The casting suspicion doesn't make sense, but is not a scumtell by itself, considering a scum would be terribly stupid to be so vocal like that.

In fact, if you want to get to statistics, only 12.5% of your case is legitimate. Compare that to my reasons on why he is likely town, all of which you apparently ignored, btw, except for like one or two.

tl;dr you are grasping straws
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This is the kind of post I've wanted to see from Celever. I agree with you that AtE by itself isn't a scumtell, but it's pretty much been the only thing that's been flowing out of his mouth lately.
 
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