What about the Death Penalty?
- Thread starter Chaos Jackal
- Start date
RE: Death Penalty
I believe that people who are serial killers, mass murderers, spree killers, serial arsonists, and serial armed robbers should be up for the death penalty. Those aren't as common, but it sends a message. If you were to be any of the aforementioned (namely the robber, since there is no excuse), you'd probably say 'Nah, better not.'
I believe that people who are serial killers, mass murderers, spree killers, serial arsonists, and serial armed robbers should be up for the death penalty. Those aren't as common, but it sends a message. If you were to be any of the aforementioned (namely the robber, since there is no excuse), you'd probably say 'Nah, better not.'
RE: Death Penalty
I think this is the problem that we have in America (assuming you live in the US). We think its practical to kill another person to save money. For one, I believe it costs a bit of money to "humanely" kill another person. They will wait in jail for a good portion of their life as it is. Another reason, mentioned above, was the possibility of executing the wrong person. It has happened and it will continue to happen as long as the practice exists. Third, there really is no "humane" way of killing a person. Once again, it was mentioned that it wont bring back the person that they killed. My 4th point, is that they will most likely have a family that loves them as much as the victims family loved the victim. How much stress do you think they would be under knowing they're child/brother/sister/whatever is in jail for murder, and is now going to be put to death.
I dont know how old the people on this forum are that support this practice, but I believe that the older you will get, the mature you will become and realize its poor thinking.
Lol good point here.
Sadly, the death penalty will serve as no deterrent to the people that will commit these crimes. They dont care enough to not commit them. There is no message it is sending.
SheNinja said:
I think this is the problem that we have in America (assuming you live in the US). We think its practical to kill another person to save money. For one, I believe it costs a bit of money to "humanely" kill another person. They will wait in jail for a good portion of their life as it is. Another reason, mentioned above, was the possibility of executing the wrong person. It has happened and it will continue to happen as long as the practice exists. Third, there really is no "humane" way of killing a person. Once again, it was mentioned that it wont bring back the person that they killed. My 4th point, is that they will most likely have a family that loves them as much as the victims family loved the victim. How much stress do you think they would be under knowing they're child/brother/sister/whatever is in jail for murder, and is now going to be put to death.
I dont know how old the people on this forum are that support this practice, but I believe that the older you will get, the mature you will become and realize its poor thinking.
PellOfTheTundra said:
Lol good point here.
Haunted Water said:
Sadly, the death penalty will serve as no deterrent to the people that will commit these crimes. They dont care enough to not commit them. There is no message it is sending.
I think that from my view, it's not fair. They just should be put into a psychological office until the idiots actually realize what they've done. The way I see it, we should just take pity on them. Why not? But then, pitiful killing isn't too bad, unless they (the ones who are going to die) suffer.
That's what I think the original people would have done.
But it's not. Here's the truth: everybody is to blame. Because they had a part in this dead person's life. It doesn't really matter if they're good or bad. They had a little tiny part in their life, maybe the friend's friend of the person. Or a bully.
...heck, even I could be killed for this one tiny detail. But society's current logic doesn't agree. Ironic how we all had a part in all of our lives.
I also want to add this if you don't understand what I just said. Okay, here I go. Suppose I, a friend of yours, tell you a famous quote. You make it your official life motto. Later on, you tell your whole family about it. When you and your brother are adults, he tells me the same quote as I told you years ago. I ask him how many people he's told his life motto about. He says "oh, maybe a couple or two." Later on, those same people tell me the same quote. They have also told it to several other people, one of which told a person who disbelieved it and killed the other person. He also eventually tracks down the people who were informed of the quote and kills them. Then he kills the couple and your brother.
Who's to blame?
That's what I think the original people would have done.
True, I'd be crying if my brother died for killing a ton of people, but it was wrong. They had to do it. But often the murderer's family overthinks too much and put themselves into a state of depression. Especially the parents; they would be very embarrassed and put down. They raised their son, who turned into a killer. They would think it was all their fault.evilpacman said:
But it's not. Here's the truth: everybody is to blame. Because they had a part in this dead person's life. It doesn't really matter if they're good or bad. They had a little tiny part in their life, maybe the friend's friend of the person. Or a bully.
...heck, even I could be killed for this one tiny detail. But society's current logic doesn't agree. Ironic how we all had a part in all of our lives.
I also want to add this if you don't understand what I just said. Okay, here I go. Suppose I, a friend of yours, tell you a famous quote. You make it your official life motto. Later on, you tell your whole family about it. When you and your brother are adults, he tells me the same quote as I told you years ago. I ask him how many people he's told his life motto about. He says "oh, maybe a couple or two." Later on, those same people tell me the same quote. They have also told it to several other people, one of which told a person who disbelieved it and killed the other person. He also eventually tracks down the people who were informed of the quote and kills them. Then he kills the couple and your brother.
Who's to blame?
Luckyfire said:
And what if they never do? Some people just don't change.
Luckyfire said:
They can always break out of jail, you know.
You better watch your back.......heck, even I could be killed for this one tiny detail. But society's current logic doesn't agree. Ironic how we all had a part in all of our lives.
The Yoshi said:
Well, considering that that statistic is only mostly true with spree killers... Um, it'd still work.
Unfortunately, I think that it wouldn't. Even if death is at stake, people who would commit such terrible crimes wouldn't be afraid to lose their lives.
...On an irrelevant note, I wonder which mod changed the title of my thread.
...On an irrelevant note, I wonder which mod changed the title of my thread.
I think if I were not a Christian, I would have the mentality that if somebody takes the life of others, then they no longer have a right to live themselves. Furthermore, that they deserve to suffer in the same manner that they caused suffering. But alas, I don't think any human should have the right or authority to take away life, not even the government. Honestly, the death penalty seems almost like a childish concept because in a sense we are doing the same thing to the killer that he did to his victim. It's a "he hit me, so I hit him back" concept, which sounds like something I would say as an immature 5 year old.
Now, If one of my loved ones were murdered, I would probably have a difficult time not losing all sense of Christian moral and wish extreme torture, death, and a special place in hell for the murderer. And to be completely honest, I think everyone will have a skewed opinion on this topic until something like this actually happens to someone they love. It's easy for us to sit here and say that the death penalty is wrong because we have no emotional connection to the topic, but what really matters is the opinions of those who are directly affected (the families) because in the end they are the ones losing a loved one. And I think a lot of people would change their viewpoints if they were directly affected.
Also, the purpose of there being a death penalty is much, much deeper. The intentions are never that it will "bring the victim back" so I'm not sure why people would bring that up.
Now, If one of my loved ones were murdered, I would probably have a difficult time not losing all sense of Christian moral and wish extreme torture, death, and a special place in hell for the murderer. And to be completely honest, I think everyone will have a skewed opinion on this topic until something like this actually happens to someone they love. It's easy for us to sit here and say that the death penalty is wrong because we have no emotional connection to the topic, but what really matters is the opinions of those who are directly affected (the families) because in the end they are the ones losing a loved one. And I think a lot of people would change their viewpoints if they were directly affected.
Also, the purpose of there being a death penalty is much, much deeper. The intentions are never that it will "bring the victim back" so I'm not sure why people would bring that up.
J
Juliacoolo
Elite Stride said:
Oddly enough, I've heard mostly the opposite. Most Christians I know support the death penalty, while others less frequently.
I don't support the death penalty. I don't think a government should be able to take someone's life. Instead, criminals should be worked so that the state receives income from their labors.
I do believe it should be legalised again , yes it's not a good mentality but who cares. People get away with murder literally, it's stupid to think they are in prison when they should be dead. Prisons are filling up, something needs to be done. I would say they need to take more controlable measures, some people get wrongly accused. I don't think everyone should get the death penalty, but if they are 100% it's them....
RE: Death Penalty
Smallpox vaccine says sup
On topic, I want the death penalty to be nationwide and mandatory for severe crimes. We are wasting too much money housing convicts and on life sentences. If they are repeat offenders they've already proven they are not deserving to have anything. So give those people a choice. Death penalty or banishment from our country.
Teal said:
Smallpox vaccine says sup
On topic, I want the death penalty to be nationwide and mandatory for severe crimes. We are wasting too much money housing convicts and on life sentences. If they are repeat offenders they've already proven they are not deserving to have anything. So give those people a choice. Death penalty or banishment from our country.
RE: Death Penalty
This has happened many, many times before.
I think the death penalty is horrible and should be banned outright. Murder is murder, no matter what context it's in. Don't stoop to the level of the murderers.
Also, I'm an atheist.
Cinesra said:
This has happened many, many times before.
I think the death penalty is horrible and should be banned outright. Murder is murder, no matter what context it's in. Don't stoop to the level of the murderers.
Elite Stride said:
Also, I'm an atheist.
You've taken that slightly out of context. I'm speaking for myself, and comparing how my own personal mentality would be in the absence of the belief system I've chosen for myself. I was not implying or generalizing that atheists want to see people die, you don't have to believe a certain way to recognize the value of life.