Pokemon What if Pokémon Had Different Evolutionary Lines and Types?

[Blob55]

So, let me just ask... What on earth is going on here?
Not that I don't love fakemons, mods, hackmons, ect. But... It's a little confusing.

Essentially, you're using the real names of Pokémon... Until they evolve into something they otherwise wouldn't?
Why do Bagon and Shelgon have the right names, but Gigalith has a made-up name?

I ask because I'm intrigued. Quite a few people have posted without made-up names, pointing out that such-and-such Pokémon could evolve into such-and-such other Pokémon, and those are kind of cool (especially like Luvdisc > Gorebyss, even if Alomomola is a copy of Luvdisc... Branch evo would be cool there, actually). But the random names just seem out of place.

(Like, I totally love Pansear > Vigoroth > Infernape, but why Squirtle > Wartotle > ...Tortofence?)

Because some Pokémon need new names to fit better into their new evolutionary line. It makes no sense to call a Mothern Mothim, if Mothim can be either gender. Gigalith also doesn't sound like it would have the dragon typing and it just sounds like some generic big rock Pokémon.

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I thought our Tropius was /Dragon?

It was, but it's shown gliding with its two leaf wings, so Flying would make more sense.

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Steffenka asked for it to be changed to /Flying

I'm pretty sure that was me.

 

[Reggie McGigas]

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Steffenka asked for it to be changed to /Flying

I'm pretty sure that was me.

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Steffenka modified his post to remove Dragon and add Flying

I'll add some more later! Any suggestions for what will come next in the dex?

 

[CMP]

As Blob pointed out, it doesn't make sense for a Mothern to be called Mothim if it can be either gender -- however, by the same token, Mothern might not be a great name either, as 'mother' is in the name, hinting at a female-only species. I'd suggest Mothern's name be changed to Mothem (with an 'm' instead of an 'r n.' It's a simple change from Mothim while not leaning toward one gender or the other.

In fact, I'm not sure if that's what was originally intended or not, as an 'm' can sometimes be ready quickly as 'rn.'

 

[steffenka]

I thought our Tropius was /Dragon?

I think the starters should be totally different... we could use pretty much anything and we're using Pokemon that are main series starters... it just seems a bit lazy.
Its not the end of the world if they stay... I just think that the whole thing about this thread with us being able to be creative, re-using the same starters seems reductive.

Maybe we can have a secondary pair of starters, that are the other types?

(The hotel had wifi, yay! )

 

[Keeper of Night]

Not necessarily, CMP. It could always be that male Burmy evolve into Mothim, but others could evolve into it anyway.

I suppose my main question is, why does Reggie's Wartortle have Rock typing and evolve into Carracosta when any other Pokemon named Wartortle is pure Water and evolves into Blastoise?
Your reasoning behind Gigalith is faulty. Names don't have to affect types.

 

[CMP]

Not necessarily, CMP. It could always be that male Burmy evolve into Mothim, but others could evolve into it anyway.

In the 'dex they're proposing...

Spoiler

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#010 Cayepillar
Bug Pokémon

Basic Pokémon
Bug
Ability: Shield Dust/Swarm
Its short feet are tipped with suction pads that enable it to tirelessly climb slopes and walls.

#011 Metacoon
Cocoon Pokémon

Evolves from Caterpie at level 7
Bug
Ability: Shield Dust/Effect Spore
It waits patiently in its shell so it can evolve. It protects itself with spores in order to drive off attackers.

#012 Mothern
Flying Pokémon

Evolves from Metapod at level 12
Bug/Flying
Ability: Shield Dust/Aerialate
This Pokémon lives in tall trees. It enjoys flying around light during nighttime.

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...the real Burmy has no part in the line. Blob made it a point to explain that Mothim is no longer a fitting name, as the name implies male gender, so I made a counterpoint that the name Mothern doesn't work for the same reason, as it implies a female gender. Using a name like Mothem, you eliminate the "him" and "mother" ties to a specific gender, while also being closer to the original name.

 

[Reggie McGigas]

Possible Early dark line

Minphant
Psychic Elephant Pokémon

Basic Pokémon
Psychic/Dark
Ability: Imnonesia/Moxie (HA: Magic Bounce)
It has weak psychic powers that it uses to mess around with people and Pokémon.

Elecurse
Evil Elephant Pokemon

Evolves from Minphant at level 24
Dark/Psychic
Ability: Imnonesia/Moxie (HA: Magic Bounce)
Its psychic powers have improved thanks to its evolution. It can hypnotize someone for a short time with its powers.
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Changed to Mothem.

I suppose my main question is, why does Reggie's Wartortle have Rock typing and evolve into Carracosta when any other Pokemon named Wartortle is pure Water and evolves into Blastoise?

See title of the thread: What if Pokémon had different evolutions?

It's a good idea to actually read about the thread before asking questions

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I thought our Tropius was /Dragon?

I think the starters should be totally different... we could use pretty much anything and we're using Pokemon that are main series starters... it just seems a bit lazy.
Its not the end of the world if they stay... I just think that the whole thing about this thread with us being able to be creative, re-using the same starters seems reductive.

Maybe we can have a secondary pair of starters, that are the other types?

(The hotel had wifi, yay! )

I like this idea. Gen 6 did it so its completely possible.

 

[Keeper of Night]

Not necessarily, CMP. It could always be that male Burmy evolve into Mothim, but others could evolve into it anyway.

In the 'dex they're proposing...

Spoiler

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#010 Cayepillar
Bug Pokémon

Basic Pokémon
Bug
Ability: Shield Dust/Swarm
Its short feet are tipped with suction pads that enable it to tirelessly climb slopes and walls.

#011 Metacoon
Cocoon Pokémon

Evolves from Caterpie at level 7
Bug
Ability: Shield Dust/Effect Spore
It waits patiently in its shell so it can evolve. It protects itself with spores in order to drive off attackers.

#012 Mothern
Flying Pokémon

Evolves from Metapod at level 12
Bug/Flying
Ability: Shield Dust/Aerialate
This Pokémon lives in tall trees. It enjoys flying around light during nighttime.

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...the real Burmy has no part in the line. Blob made it a point to explain that Mothim is no longer a fitting name, as the name implies male gender, so I made a counterpoint that the name Mothern doesn't work for the same reason, as it implies a female gender. Using a name like Mothem, you eliminate the "him" and "mother" ties to a specific gender, while also being closer to the original name.

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I get that. Alright. I was just pointing out that logic does not have to apply to Pokemon.

Also... That's a Venomoth.

Also, I always thought that Wartortle and Blastoise should have been Water/Rock. You said it yourself, Keeper. You need to be creative in this thread :>

That doesn't change anything. You're still giving new names to only certain Pokemon to avoid confusion with the normal kinds? Then why doesn't your Wartortle have a new name for being Rock type?

 

[Reggie McGigas]

In the 'dex they're proposing...
...the real Burmy has no part in the line. Blob made it a point to explain that Mothim is no longer a fitting name, as the name implies male gender, so I made a counterpoint that the name Mothern doesn't work for the same reason, as it implies a female gender. Using a name like Mothem, you eliminate the "him" and "mother" ties to a specific gender, while also being closer to the original name.

I get that. Alright. I was just pointing out that logic does not have to apply to Pokemon.

Also... That's a Venomoth.

It was originally a mothim, but people requested it to be changed to Venemoth.

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In the 'dex they're proposing...
...the real Burmy has no part in the line. Blob made it a point to explain that Mothim is no longer a fitting name, as the name implies male gender, so I made a counterpoint that the name Mothern doesn't work for the same reason, as it implies a female gender. Using a name like Mothem, you eliminate the "him" and "mother" ties to a specific gender, while also being closer to the original name.

I get that. Alright. I was just pointing out that logic does not have to apply to Pokemon.

Also... That's a Venomoth.

Also, I always thought that Wartortle and Blastoise should have been Water/Rock. You said it yourself, Keeper. You need to be creative in this thread :>

That doesn't change anything. You're still giving new names to only certain Pokemon to avoid confusion with the normal kinds? Then why doesn't your Wartortle have a new name for being Rock type?

You didn't see "Shelltortle" bolded in the pokedex? You really need to start reading the thread.

 

[CMP]

In the 'dex they're proposing...
...the real Burmy has no part in the line. Blob made it a point to explain that Mothim is no longer a fitting name, as the name implies male gender, so I made a counterpoint that the name Mothern doesn't work for the same reason, as it implies a female gender. Using a name like Mothem, you eliminate the "him" and "mother" ties to a specific gender, while also being closer to the original name.

I get that. Alright. I was just pointing out that logic does not have to apply to Pokemon.

Also... That's a Venomoth.

True. Logic and Pokémon don't go together.

At one point, the final stage was Mothim (which is where the Mothern name was derived)...

Spoiler

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Caterpie

Basic Pokémon
Bug
Ability: Shield Dust/Swarm
Its short feet are tipped with suction pads that enable it to tirelessly climb slopes and walls.

Metapod

Evolves from Caterpie at level 7
Bug
Ability: Shield Dust/Effect Spore
It waits patiently in its shell so it can evolve. It protects itself with spores in order to drive off attackers.

Mothern

Evolves from Metapod at level 12
Bug/Flying
Ability: Shield Dust/Aerialate
This Pokémon lives in tall trees. It enjoys flying around light during nighttime.​

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[Their Goominess]

I thought our Tropius was /Dragon?

I think the starters should be totally different... we could use pretty much anything and we're using Pokemon that are main series starters... it just seems a bit lazy.
Its not the end of the world if they stay... I just think that the whole thing about this thread with us being able to be creative, re-using the same starters seems reductive.

Steffenka asked for it to be changed to /Flying

Pansear is a main series starter?

Infernape isn't a main series starter?

Its still the same fire monkey concept... and it still becomes /Fighting....

 

[Keeper of Night]

I get that. Alright. I was just pointing out that logic does not have to apply to Pokemon.

Also... That's a Venomoth.

That doesn't change anything. You're still giving new names to only certain Pokemon to avoid confusion with the normal kinds? Then why doesn't your Wartortle have a new name for being Rock type?

You didn't see "Shelltortle" bolded in the pokedex? You really need to start reading the thread.

I have read the whole thread, thanks. I just don't make a habit of re-reading whole threads.
That's how I know that at one point your "dex" was originally a c/p of your previous line. I do like the edits, however.

But that's fine. Great, actually.
But what about others?
Why does Fearow suddenly evolve into Ho-Oh?

edit: This doesn't really belong in General Pokémon Discussion. Maybe it'd be better suited in Fan Fakes?

 

[Blob55]

In the 'dex they're proposing...
...the real Burmy has no part in the line. Blob made it a point to explain that Mothim is no longer a fitting name, as the name implies male gender, so I made a counterpoint that the name Mothern doesn't work for the same reason, as it implies a female gender. Using a name like Mothem, you eliminate the "him" and "mother" ties to a specific gender, while also being closer to the original name.

I get that. Alright. I was just pointing out that logic does not have to apply to Pokemon.

Also... That's a Venomoth.

Also, I always thought that Wartortle and Blastoise should have been Water/Rock. You said it yourself, Keeper. You need to be creative in this thread :>

That doesn't change anything. You're still giving new names to only certain Pokemon to avoid confusion with the normal kinds? Then why doesn't your Wartortle have a new name for being Rock type?

Also, Metaod was originally going to evolve into a Mothim here, but it got changed to Venomoth. Also, the Veno bit doesn't work, as Metapod doesn't look like it would evolve into a Poison type.

 

[Drohn]

Since this thread doesn't really belong in the General Pokémon Discussion forum I am locking it. I do like the creativity that you have showed here; if you would like to continue creating fake evolution lines or Pokémon I would like to encourage you to create a thread for it in the Fan Fakes forum.

Edit: Do Keep in mind that the Fan Fakes forum does require other details (such as possible stats, abilities etc.) and/or art about the fake Pokémon or evolution lines.