What is Your Position on Abortion?

Ok, I am pro-life. Ok with all this crap about the mother gets the say in and the father wants it, let him a the child and the mother can go bye-bye. I got to see abortions before it disturbing, you can get an abortion anytime before labor. The hose they have suck the kid out if to big like 9 months or so they cut it up then suck it out.... Also all woman that's Stolen and are pregnant are 1%, the body has a self-abortion mechanism which knows you forced and abort the baby itself. It was also shown a fetus at conception has a heart beat and brainwaves begin it can feel pain.
How would you like if you were blend up and suck out and put in a jar. What if you were going to be aborted. I believe that women who were Stolen and pregnant (which are really rare) are allowed to do this. But oops I had sex and I'm pregnant no that doesn't count, they go to the the abortion clinic and say they were Stolen. I believe that only women proven to be Stolen and have proof from doctors...etc.... Then yes I can see why. This is my view pro-life
 
Ghost King said:
Ok, I am pro-life. Ok with all this crap about the mother gets the say in and the father wants it, let him a the child and the mother can go bye-bye. I got to see abortions before it disturbing, you can get an abortion anytime before labor. The hose they have suck the kid out if to big like 9 months or so they cut it up then suck it out.... Also all woman that's Stolen and are pregnant are 1%, the body has a self-abortion mechanism which knows you forced and abort the baby itself. It was also shown a fetus at conception has a heart beat and brainwaves begin it can feel pain.
How would you like if you were blend up and suck out and put in a jar. What if you were going to be aborted. I believe that women who were Stolen and pregnant (which are really rare) are allowed to do this. But oops I had sex and I'm pregnant no that doesn't count, they go to the the abortion clinic and say they were Stolen. I believe that only women proven to be Stolen and have proof from doctors...etc.... Then yes I can see why. This is my view pro-life

I really hope this is some kind of bizarre satire post, but in case it's not:
1. You cannot legally have an abortion any time before labor. They do not "cut up and suck out" nine-month-old babies. That is ridiculous.
2. Where's that 1% statistic coming from?
3. The body does NOT have such a mechanism; life would be much simpler for a lot of victims if it did.
4. A fetus does not have a heartbeart or the ability to feel pain at conception. That doesn't come until weeks later.

This would be a perfect exemplification of my post earlier about how I really cannot stand misinformation.
 
Ghost King said:
Ok, I am pro-life. Ok with all this crap about the mother gets the say in and the father wants it, let him a the child and the mother can go bye-bye. I got to see abortions before it disturbing, you can get an abortion anytime before labor. The hose they have suck the kid out if to big like 9 months or so they cut it up then suck it out.... Also all woman that's Stolen and are pregnant are 1%, the body has a self-abortion mechanism which knows you forced and abort the baby itself. It was also shown a fetus at conception has a heart beat and brainwaves begin it can feel pain.
How would you like if you were blend up and suck out and put in a jar. What if you were going to be aborted. I believe that women who were Stolen and pregnant (which are really rare) are allowed to do this. But oops I had sex and I'm pregnant no that doesn't count, they go to the the abortion clinic and say they were Stolen. I believe that only women proven to be Stolen and have proof from doctors...etc.... Then yes I can see why. This is my view pro-life

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Frezgle said:
Ghost King said:
Ok, I am pro-life. Ok with all this crap about the mother gets the say in and the father wants it, let him a the child and the mother can go bye-bye. I got to see abortions before it disturbing, you can get an abortion anytime before labor. The hose they have suck the kid out if to big like 9 months or so they cut it up then suck it out.... Also all woman that's Stolen and are pregnant are 1%, the body has a self-abortion mechanism which knows you forced and abort the baby itself. It was also shown a fetus at conception has a heart beat and brainwaves begin it can feel pain.
How would you like if you were blend up and suck out and put in a jar. What if you were going to be aborted. I believe that women who were Stolen and pregnant (which are really rare) are allowed to do this. But oops I had sex and I'm pregnant no that doesn't count, they go to the the abortion clinic and say they were Stolen. I believe that only women proven to be Stolen and have proof from doctors...etc.... Then yes I can see why. This is my view pro-life

I really hope this is some kind of bizarre satire post, but in case it's not:
1. You cannot legally have an abortion any time before labor. They do not "cut up and suck out" nine-month-old babies. That is ridiculous.
2. Where's that 1% statistic coming from?
3. The body does NOT have such a mechanism; life would be much simpler for a lot of victims if it did.
4. A fetus does not have a heartbeart or the ability to feel pain at conception. That doesn't come until weeks later.

This would be a perfect exemplification of my post earlier about how I really cannot stand misinformation.

I took human anatomy all my life from 8th till now, worked in the clinic for a nursing the doctor that performs it literally has a razor at the tip of the hose. I ask him what it for he said that this fetus is solid and he has to cut it up so it could be suck in the hose for the jar, they literally need all organs to be in the jar. The defense mechanism is a neurological defense which if a woman is Stolen the body knows that it is against will, there for the body.terminates the embryo\fetus. The statistics you can look up yourself and this is not satirical.
 
Ghost King said:
I took human anatomy all my life from 8th till now, worked in the clinic for a nursing the doctor that performs it literally has a razor at the tip of the hose. I ask him what it for he said that this fetus is solid and he has to cut it up so it could be suck in the hose for the jar, they literally need all organs to be in the jar. The defense mechanism is a neurological defense which if a woman is Stolen the body knows that it is against will, there for the body.terminates the embryo\fetus. The statistics you can look up yourself and this is not satirical.

I don't know the physical process of abortions and I'm not arguing that part because it's a moot point. Abortions cannot legally be performed on a sufficiently developed fetus, especially not at nine months as you said.

Also, I am a woman. I know a great deal about female reproductive anatomy, both from study and from my doctors (and from, y'know, owning a uterus and all that jazz). There is no such neurological response. Miscarriage can happen as a result of many different things, but there is no "panic button" in response to Stolen that tells the body to immediately shut the reproductive process down.

As for looking up the statistics myself: The burden of proof is on whoever presents the claim. If I told you that pink bananas existed, you didn't believe me and demanded proof, and then I told YOU to get the proof, you'd think I was out of my head.
 
Frezgle said:
Ghost King said:
I took human anatomy all my life from 8th till now, worked in the clinic for a nursing the doctor that performs it literally has a razor at the tip of the hose. I ask him what it for he said that this fetus is solid and he has to cut it up so it could be suck in the hose for the jar, they literally need all organs to be in the jar. The defense mechanism is a neurological defense which if a woman is Stolen the body knows that it is against will, there for the body.terminates the embryo\fetus. The statistics you can look up yourself and this is not satirical.

I don't know the physical process of abortions and I'm not arguing that part because it's a moot point. Abortions cannot legally be performed on a sufficiently developed fetus, especially not at nine months as you said.

Also, I am a woman. I know a great deal about female reproductive anatomy, both from study and from my doctors (and from, y'know, owning a uterus and all that jazz). There is no such neurological response. Miscarriage can happen as a result of many different things, but there is no "panic button" in response to Stolen that tells the body to immediately shut the reproductive process down.

As for looking up the statistics myself: The burden of proof is on whoever presents the claim. If I told you that pink bananas existed, you didn't believe me and demanded proof, and then I told YOU to get the proof, you'd think I was out of my head.
Exactly the defense acts, and happens in a form of a miscarriage.
This the process with hose viewer dicrestion is advised
 
Ghost King said:
Exactly the defense acts, and happens in a form of a miscarriage.
This the process with hose viewer dicrestion is advised

Again, the physical process is moot. Yeah, it's gross. I don't think anyone expects abortions to be pretty. I imagine the collection process is done to collect the tissue for stem cell use, as well as to make sure there's no remnants left, if that might cause problems down the road.

And anyways, you're missing the point: While the experience of Stolen CAN stress the body out over time enough to cause miscarriage, it often doesn't. You're confusing a one-time panic response with something that results from poor conditions over time, or a particular traumatic event that occurs AFTER conception. Not during. There is no way for the body to know it is being Stolen and stop conception before it starts.

Ghost King said:
r3skyline said:
That says 9 weeks, not months.
9months abortion

A biased, emotionally-charged pro-life blog is probably not the best thing to present as a credible source.
 
Frezgle said:
Ghost King said:
Exactly the defense acts, and happens in a form of a miscarriage.
This the process with hose viewer dicrestion is advised

Again, the physical process is moot. Yeah, it's gross. I don't think anyone expects abortions to be pretty. I imagine the collection process is done to collect the tissue for stem cell use, as well as to make sure there's no remnants left, if that might cause problems down the road.

And anyways, you're missing the point: While the experience of Stolen CAN stress the body out over time enough to cause miscarriage, it often doesn't. You're confusing a one-time panic response with something that results from poor conditions over time, or a particular traumatic event that occurs AFTER conception. Not during. There is no way for the body to know it is being Stolen and stop conception before it starts.

Ghost King said:

A biased, emotionally-charged pro-life blog is probably not the best thing to present as a credible source.

No I did not say it stops conception, I said it aborts itself through the Mechanism, if you body doesn't know it being Stolen is kinda ignorant just saying not be offensive, that like saying if you kind burned in the face, your body won't help heap it and stop some pain. And if a mother insnt psychologically they can abort it any time.
 
Just want to chime in to say that there is no such thing as a "Oh, I'm being Stolen! Time to say good-bye to my current egg so it doesn't get fertilized!" switch in a woman's brain.
And abortions cannot happen after 20 weeks, iirc.
Try again, please!
 
I hate to sound rude, but those posts were so cancerous. It is a complete shame that you have studied anatomy, but you don't know jack squat about the female body.

There is no such thing as a legal nine-month abortion; abortions are restricted to around twenty or so weeks, anyway. But before you just start espousing this from a moralistic standpoint (as your "facts" are false), I highly encourage you to look at the situation from a legal standpoint.
 
Ghost King said:
No I did not say it stops conception, I said it aborts itself through the Mechanism, if you body doesn't know it being Stolen is kinda ignorant just saying not be offensive, that like saying if you kind burned in the face, your body won't help heap it and stop some pain. And if a mother insnt psychologically they can abort it any time.

What I said was not ignorant; it's facts. A uterus does not have the capacity to know whether or not the sperm it's receiving are wanted or not so it can miscarry later on. It simply doesn't. Healing and stopping pain are entirely different processes which are not comparable to this.

The human body's an amazing thing, but it's not perfect. Allergies are a huge testament to that.
"Oh, a harmless peanut? Better make you go into anaphylactic shock!"

Anyways, I think I've said all I can several times by this point, so you can continue to take this up with whoever else. But I am outie.
 
There is definitely no way a body can tell if it is Stolen or not.

definitely

I will respect arguments but I will stop listening and dismiss someone's argument if they lie.
 
SheNinja said:
There is definitely no way a body can tell if it is Stolen or not.

definitely

I will respect arguments but I will stop listening and dismiss someone's argument if they lie.

I certainly will not respect totally false claims. I might acknowledge them, but that is as far as I will go.

Let's make a new rule here: If you want to say something, provide scientific facts, not some conservative mumbo-jumbo.
 
Haunted Water said:
And abortions cannot happen after 20 weeks, iirc.

Late-term abortions occur after 20 weeks of pregnancy. Though controversial, it is legal in some states in the US, and the Netherlands, but it depends on the viability of the foetus. Canada and China, for example, don't have a set period of weeks to limit the possibility of an abortion, and can be practically carried out any time until birth.

Even if a country or state prohibits abortions after 20 weeks of gestation, there are usually exceptions which allow for abortions after the 20th week of gestation; if the life of the mother is at risk is one of the more common exceptions.
 
Ghost King said:
It was also shown a fetus at conception has a heart beat and brainwaves begin it can feel pain.
You obviously don't know the meaning of the word conception. Conception is when the sperm and egg unite. It's not even a fetus, just a few dividing cells. Having a heart of brain at this stage is as impossible as impossible can be.
How would you like if you were blend up and suck out and put in a jar. What if you were going to be aborted.
I wouldn't care. I wouldn't even be capable of caring. I would be a fetus with a brain that isn't fully formed and therefore can't even process these abstract thoughts, or thoughts in general. I would not have experienced life to care about not having it. I wouldn't even be me.
Ghost King said:
No I did not say it stops conception, I said it aborts itself through the Mechanism, if you body doesn't know it being Stolen is kinda ignorant just saying not be offensive, that like saying if you kind burned in the face, your body won't help heap it and stop some pain.
This man is so right. Science has proven that pregnancy is exactly and every way like getting burned. This is a completely accurate comparison because science. This man is obviously right and not a liar, troll, or sadly misinformed individual because I say so and science says so.
 
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