XY What new smaller details would you like to see? Things! Environment! Random events! Etc.

[Frezgle]

I hope that Gamefreak takes surf out of Rhydon and Aggron's move pools.

Not likely to happen, at least in Rhydon's case, since G/S/C and their remakes specifically feature a Rhydon that knows Surf in the Ecruteak dance theater. I think it might be that swimming is very mild water contact so it does it no harm, whereas getting hit with a water blast to the face is different. I dunno.

 

[Raptor9229]

I hope that Gamefreak takes surf out of Rhydon and Aggron's move pools.

Not likely to happen, at least in Rhydon's case, since G/S/C and their remakes specifically feature a Rhydon that knows Surf in the Ecruteak dance theater. I think it might be that swimming is very mild water contact so it does it no harm, whereas getting hit with a water blast to the face is different. I dunno.

Exactly, just because it is weak to water type moves does not mean it can't swim and right now I am still sticking to my non useless church idea because the one in Hearthome city literally served no purpose but the idea of a church environment for certain pokemon or wild encounters in certain buildings would be somewhat different.

 

[Pokequaza]

Yes that is right, Rhydon which is a Ground/Rock Pokemon and Aggron who is a Steel/Rock Pokemon can swim, Tyrannitar makes sense because it kinda looks like Godzilla anyway. Being weak to water types does not automatically mean that it can not swim at all and even Rampardos can swim.

Rhydon, Aggron, and Rampardos are all loosely based on godzilla(/kaiju), hence explaining their swimming capabilities.

 

[leecario]

Leecario, I think that the flame goes out when Charmander dies not necessarily that Charmander dies when the flame goes out. People in ancient times could have seen a charmander dying and saw the flame go out once it died and they may have incorrectly assumed it was charmander dying because the flame went out and that myth might persist to the present day.

Urm... charmander's firered dex entry: "From the time it is born, a flame burns at the tip of its tail. Its life would end if the flame were to go out."

 

[Raptor9229]

Leecario, I think that the flame goes out when Charmander dies not necessarily that Charmander dies when the flame goes out. People in ancient times could have seen a charmander dying and saw the flame go out once it died and they may have incorrectly assumed it was charmander dying because the flame went out and that myth might persist to the present day.

Urm... charmander's firered dex entry: "From the time it is born, a flame burns at the tip of its tail. Its life would end if the flame were to go out."

And we also know that Pokedex entries can be total crap as well, I just hope gamefreak comes up with better pokedex entries for charmander. For example: "It is said that if the flame on the tip of Charmander's tail goes out it will die."

Which one do you think sounds better? The first or the second? Actually that pokedex entry is one of the other small details I would love to be changed. Think about it, some idiot prankster could walk up and dump water on you and your newly obtained Charmander and put its tail flame out, what now? You have no starter and no pokemon. Do you go to Professor Oak for a new pokemon or do you punch the idiot in the face? Charmander dying because its tail flame going out is one of the dumbest things ever, just because it is in the pokedex does not mean it is true.

 

[leecario]

Urm... charmander's firered dex entry: "From the time it is born, a flame burns at the tip of its tail. Its life would end if the flame were to go out."

And we also know that Pokedex entries can be total crap as well, I just hope gamefreak comes up with better pokedex entries for charmander. For example: "It is said that if the flame on the tip of Charmander's tail goes out it will die."

Which one do you think sounds better? The first or the second? Actually that pokedex entry is one of the other small details I would love to be changed. Think about it, some idiot prankster could walk up and dump water on you and your newly obtained Charmander and put its tail flame out, what now? You have no starter and no pokemon. Do you go to Professor Oak for a new pokemon or do you punch the idiot in the face? Charmander dying because its tail flame going out is one of the dumbest things ever, just because it is in the pokedex does not mean it is true.

So your argument against the information that gamefreak gives us on the pokemon is an assumption about ancient pokemon trainers and incorrect observations with no evidence?
And also: leaf green dex entry: It has a preference for hot things. "When it rains, steam is said to spout from the tip of its tail." The implication is that if it gets a bit wet is just evaporates the water.
Anyway this is way off topic.

 

[Raptor9229]

And we also know that Pokedex entries can be total crap as well, I just hope gamefreak comes up with better pokedex entries for charmander. For example: "It is said that if the flame on the tip of Charmander's tail goes out it will die."

Which one do you think sounds better? The first or the second? Actually that pokedex entry is one of the other small details I would love to be changed. Think about it, some idiot prankster could walk up and dump water on you and your newly obtained Charmander and put its tail flame out, what now? You have no starter and no pokemon. Do you go to Professor Oak for a new pokemon or do you punch the idiot in the face? Charmander dying because its tail flame going out is one of the dumbest things ever, just because it is in the pokedex does not mean it is true.

So your argument against the information that gamefreak gives us on the pokemon is an assumption about ancient pokemon trainers and incorrect observations with no evidence?
And also: leaf green dex entry: It has a preference for hot things. "When it rains, steam is said to spout from the tip of its tail." The implication is that if it gets a bit wet is just evaporates the water.
Anyway this is way off topic.

It is a small detail that I would love to be changed though.

 

[Pokequaza]

And we also know that Pokedex entries can be total crap as well, I just hope gamefreak comes up with better pokedex entries for charmander. For example: "It is said that if the flame on the tip of Charmander's tail goes out it will die."

Which one do you think sounds better? The first or the second? Actually that pokedex entry is one of the other small details I would love to be changed. Think about it, some idiot prankster could walk up and dump water on you and your newly obtained Charmander and put its tail flame out, what now? You have no starter and no pokemon. Do you go to Professor Oak for a new pokemon or do you punch the idiot in the face? Charmander dying because its tail flame going out is one of the dumbest things ever, just because it is in the pokedex does not mean it is true.

Neither is your explanation. GameFreak gave us that explanation (remember it's not real.. it's fantasy), and it is all we have, so deal with it. You cannot just make up your own explanation, present it as ''truth'', and attempt to debunk the actual and only source we have, GameFreak itself.

 

[Raptor9229]

And we also know that Pokedex entries can be total crap as well, I just hope gamefreak comes up with better pokedex entries for charmander. For example: "It is said that if the flame on the tip of Charmander's tail goes out it will die."

Which one do you think sounds better? The first or the second? Actually that pokedex entry is one of the other small details I would love to be changed. Think about it, some idiot prankster could walk up and dump water on you and your newly obtained Charmander and put its tail flame out, what now? You have no starter and no pokemon. Do you go to Professor Oak for a new pokemon or do you punch the idiot in the face? Charmander dying because its tail flame going out is one of the dumbest things ever, just because it is in the pokedex does not mean it is true.

Neither is your explanation. GameFreak gave us that explanation (remember it's not real.. it's fantasy), and it is all we have, so deal with it. You cannot just make up your own explanation, present it as ''truth'', and attempt to debunk the actual and only source we have, GameFreak itself.

I know that GameFreak gave us that explaination but they are also the ones who gave Doduo and Dodrio the ability to use fly as well, or even Zubat. I think that GameFreak is implying that the Pokedex uses local lore as the basis for the information in them. All I am saying is that I personally hope that certain small details about the games are changed a bit and some of those small details include certain Pokedex entries (Shedinja nuff said there). Then again the tail flame entry seems to be from the anime only. All other entries basically say that the strength of the flame on its tail depends on how healthy the Charmander is. But still Shedinja is said to steal your soul if you look into the hole in its back . . . yeah . . . what I would like to know is if Shedinja can choose to do that or not. That is still a small detail but still . . .

 

[Mitja]

I am pretty sure a Diglett could swim if it wanted to, I am pretty sure all pokemon could swim if they wanted to as well.

Ponyta and Rapidash are horses with fire for their manes and tails and horses generally swim better than people, I am pretty sure they can swim if they wanted to, they just can't carry you when swimming.

How about no? If a little squirt of water makes them faint, jumping in a large body of water would equal suicide.

They are weak to Water type MOVES, not water.
"a little squirt of water" that makes them faint, also does damage to any other pokemon, all weaknesses do is tell you how severe the damage is.

 

[CorinthiansRose]

These field moves could be enabled through a Pokemon's species itself (like Lapras would have Surf as default field move (but not in-battle move), Ampharos and Lanturn would have Flash as default field move and so on), however as before the knowledege of the respective in-battle move Surf/Flash/... would also add the corresponding field move to the Pokemons skill's list. Additionally there could be various in-battle moves that enable a field move, like Flash (the field move) would not just be enabled by Flash (the in-battle move), but also by Flash Canon, Tail Glow, Signal Beam, Light Screen and others, Cut would be enabled by Cut and Leaf Blade, Razor Shell, Psycho Cut, Razor Wind, X-Scissor, all Claw moves and so on.

That way you won't have to use HM slaves in your party or run back to a Pokemon Center whenever a tree, a boulder or a dark cave blocks your way.

Oh god yes, please god yes! We have needed something like this for so long, I HATE having to have HM slaves. It is the biggest pain in the ass to have to run back 5 miles just because a shrubbery is in the way. I never understood why some moves couldn't be used instead.

Scenario. There's a shrub in the way and you have a Scyther on your team.

"Scyther, cut down the shrub!"

"...but master...I don't know Cut"

"...you have freaking BLADES for hands!!!"

Certain Pokemon should be able to do things like this without a special move. Or like you said, have moves like Leaf Blade substitute for Cut and so on. This would make the game so much better and it would make more sense.

 

[jdivinity]

Wow, now I'm far more curious on how surf, and battles over water will work. Will we still see Pokemon standing/floating over the water or will the environment change for Pokemon who would find trouble battling over water? Remember in the anime when Ash was battling Misty for the gym badge? There were floating platforms above the water for those Pokemon who weren't water-type. If they were to infuse an idea similar to that in the game for these battles it would make more sense. Maybe, when you're fishing, you're Pokemon will stay on shore and the Pokemon you fished up will stay in the water. Like half of the field being land and the other half being water during battle. I can't wait to see what GF made up for these situations.

 

[professorlight]

Well I only know so much about 3D modelling. However I was under the impression that a model only had a texture over it to give it color and then of course you can edit things like lighting and choose to render it. Anyways, It would also depend on how many people they have working on these things. I would imagine a team for each generation or have it split into sections some other way.

oh, lighting isn't on the textures. that's added in the program it's being used in. for example, if you're using a program to animate a film, the lighting will be in there. in this case, it'll be in the game.


oh, and has anyone thought of the possibility of them adding battle quotes like in PBR?

Also, the issue it's not so much about how many people they have working on them (which, since they are using mostly the models of pokedex 3d, they probably have more people working in animation/rigging than modeling) but the space that those alternate textures and models would take in the cartridge.

And to not get off topic, I would like pokemon to have overworld abilities that reflect that species's powers or physical abilities, for example:
-shuckle would give you berry juice when you give it a berry.
-strong, big pokemon like rhyhorn, ponyta/rapidash, blitzle/zebstrika and many others can be rideable (replacing the bike).
-smaller, medium pokemon like bayleef, quilava, grotle, vibrava, pidgeotto can carry you around (replacing running shoes).
-any water pokemon with a regular size can surf (but not, for example, luvdisc, corphish and the smaller ones).
-electric pokemons can recharge or discharge devices (oh, also, devices that need to be recharged).
-luvdisc would give you heartscales, paras/pasrasect/shroomish/breloom would give you mushrooms/ big mushrooms and shellder/cloyster/clamperl would give you pearls/big pearls which you can use in the move deleter and for move tutors.
-pokemon with blades like scyther/scizor, absol, gallade, leavanny, meowth can cut tall grass and bushes.
-naturally, any flying pokemon big enough, like pidgeot, fearow, staraptor, articuno, etc can fly you from town to town.
-pecognizant pokemon, like xatu, espeon, kirlia, gardevoir can show you the pokemon a trainer has, or a list of the moves a certain pokemon learns, and at what level it will learn them (or another way of showing you the future)
-fire pokemon can keep you warm in snowy areas and at night (in those areas you move slower because of the cold) or burn away grass and bushes.
-joltik/galvantula, caterpie, weedle, spinarak/ariados and others can place traps for rare and shiny wild pokemon in the tall grass (similar to the pokeradar).
-mareep/flaaffy/ampharos, chinchou/lanturn can illuminate dark caves and roads at night (making daytime pokemon appear).
Some pokemon would have generic abilities based on their type that replace HMs and certain objects, and others would have abilities based on their peculiarities.

Feel free to add your own examples.

edit: I just thought, that in order to not make all pokemon like HM slaves, their abilities would need a certain number of battles to be recharged, to avoid people going around abusing their pokemon's powers.

 

[Drohn]

It would definitely make the game more realistic if NPC had more live in them; I like that idea! Maybe during the evenings you could find more Pokémon trainers in their homes and during the day on the streets.

I would really like to see the hidden base from generation 3 again; I loved having my own house in the games!

Other things I'd like to see is being able to walk with your Pokémon outside of the Pokéball at choice, being able to catch different types in the early stages of the game (they did this really well in the newer generations already!), and being able to battle your rival(s) more frequently throughout the game.

 

[Raptor9229]

It would definitely make the game more realistic if NPC had more live in them; I like that idea! Maybe during the evenings you could find more Pokémon trainers in their homes and during the day on the streets.

I would really like to see the hidden base from generation 3 again; I loved having my own house in the games!

Other things I'd like to see is being able to walk with your Pokémon outside of the Pokéball at choice, being able to catch different types in the early stages of the game (they did this really well in the newer generations already!), and being able to battle your rival(s) more frequently throughout the game.

I actually agree to an extant but how would they manage to do that? that would need a lot of coding to do to do so, sometimes it is best to keep it simple and allow us to re-challenge other trainers. Also to anyone wanting to get rid of surf, fly, dive, waterfall, or strength as in battle moves just remember that those are still decent moves in battle too.

 

[Pineapple X]

You know what would be cool? At night, some randomly generated NPCs would maybe make a campfire, and you could maybe sit with them. They could maybe offer random battles or maybe random in-game trades! That'd be really awesome.

 

[Raptor9229]

You know what would be cool? At night, some randomly generated NPCs would maybe make a campfire, and you could maybe sit with them. They could maybe offer random battles or maybe random in-game trades! That'd be really awesome.

While that sounds cool it also sounds like it might take up a bit of time.

 

[AdamLambert]

All I know is that I'm a tad bit worried that GF will make the games too realistic. They need to make sure it isn't too Sims-y. I don't want to have to shower or eat or brush my teeth in the game. They just need to be sure the focus is still on the Pokémon I wouldn't mind eating being optional. Like, you could go into a restaurant and dine there. That'd be sweet actually. And this is a region based on France, so it seems possible.

 

[Raptor9229]

All I know is that I'm a tad bit worried that GF will make the games too realistic. They need to make sure it isn't too Sims-y. I don't want to have to shower or eat or brush my teeth in the game. They just need to be sure the focus is still on the Pokémon I wouldn't mind eating being optional. Like, you could go into a restaurant and dine there. That'd be sweet actually. And this is a region based on France, so it seems possible.

True but You still kind of have to wonder how they will pull off battles while surfing though.

 

[AdamLambert]

All I know is that I'm a tad bit worried that GF will make the games too realistic. They need to make sure it isn't too Sims-y. I don't want to have to shower or eat or brush my teeth in the game. They just need to be sure the focus is still on the Pokémon I wouldn't mind eating being optional. Like, you could go into a restaurant and dine there. That'd be sweet actually. And this is a region based on France, so it seems possible.

True but You still kind of have to wonder how they will pull off battles while surfing though.

Well, I think they'll stick with what they've already got. They'll have a watery scene, and the trainer and Pokémon will just stand on a blue circle. I don't see a need to change it. I do, however see a need to make it so you're actually surfing on the Pokémon you're surfing on. They also need to redo the HM system. They can be kept as HM's, but make it so only the Pokémon that can logically carry you on the back (for Surf and Fly) can use them in the field. I think that's their best option. Or make them TM's (so they still exist) and have it so we just swim/ ride a rental and use an airplane/ rental Pokémon. Seeing as they have rental Pokemon, I'm thinking that maybe our own Pokémon won't be able to use Surf, Waterfall, Dive, Whirlpool, or Fly. Strength, Cut, Rock Smash, Flash, Defog would work fine as they done involve interaction with the player (riding).

Sorry if I'm rambling. I was thinking about this as I wrote it.