When link play's the ocarina time stop's.
Who is the strongest fighter in the universe? Come debate here.
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Thats in the games. Time won`t stop. Link can`t breath if the Earth`s missing.
Unless he uses the windwaker to make oxygen.
Wind is different from oxygen. Wind is a force. Wind pushes what it passes. It could be pushing gasoline.
If Link can stop time, then he would`ve done it against Ganondorf.
If Link can stop time, then he would`ve done it against Ganondorf.
he would have to have it out while he attacked but that would be hard.
It takes time for Ganon to transform. Plus the fact that Light Arrows stuns him proves my point. He would have plenty of time. Especially that time in OOT when Zelda used her magic to subdue Ganon in a paralyzed state, for about 20 seconds or more.
Superman owns everybody on that list.
But the strongest fighter would have to be Doomsday from DC. If you manage to kill him, he'll revive himself and be immune to what just killed him. Which means no second Spirit Bomb, Kamehameha or any of that.
But the strongest fighter would have to be Doomsday from DC. If you manage to kill him, he'll revive himself and be immune to what just killed him. Which means no second Spirit Bomb, Kamehameha or any of that.
^Now that's what I'm talking about. Think outside the box, people.
I'd like to see how he gets out of an interdimensional rip though.
I'd like to see how he gets out of an interdimensional rip though.
Who, Doomsday?
He'll find a way out. He's the second most powerful villain in DC with Superman Prime being the first. The only people who I can think of who could give Doomsday a run for his money is Superman, Hulk, Sentry, Alucard, Yusuke, Night Terror from Soul Calibur. All the people who I just mentioned would lose to Doomsday but they still stand the best chance.
He'll find a way out. He's the second most powerful villain in DC with Superman Prime being the first. The only people who I can think of who could give Doomsday a run for his money is Superman, Hulk, Sentry, Alucard, Yusuke, Night Terror from Soul Calibur. All the people who I just mentioned would lose to Doomsday but they still stand the best chance.
Even though Doomsday will be immune to everything, Goku won`t have to kill him again. He`ll turn SS3 open a rip in the fabric of time, and space, and throw him into a dimension with no exit. Such as the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. Doomsday would need the ability to focus his ki, and have a powerlevel in the hundreds of trillions to do this. Goku beats Superman hands down. Superman doesn`t have speed near Goku's, or have the same strength. He can`t shoot blasts other than Heat Vision. In DBZ BT3 Goku said that when he turns SS4 not even the sun can hurt him. So this proves both of them. Kryptonite hurts Super Man.
And about those giant galaxy sized robots. Maybe that guys big bang storm is as strong as SS4 Gogeta's Big Bang Kamehameha. But he surely can`t reflect Gogeta's other move, Big Bang Kamehameha×100.
And about those giant galaxy sized robots. Maybe that guys big bang storm is as strong as SS4 Gogeta's Big Bang Kamehameha. But he surely can`t reflect Gogeta's other move, Big Bang Kamehameha×100.
Dude. I just said "what will he do when trapped in an interdimensional rip". That's what that "rip" thing you keep going on about.
Goku doens't even know what Krytonite is. He's not permitted to use it here. Superman can, if he wants, fly at the speed of.. well, he's gone at the speed of light before. He also has extreme physical defense, able to fall into lava (I think) and just crawl back out just slightly annoyed.
Doomsday... I think he's comparable to Rhyperior. Massively durable but slow, and can't use any real long-range moves. He can't really hit Goku, but Goku will be hard-pressed to damage him. Lobotomising him, destorying his frontal lobe, didn't even last permenantly.
Goku doens't even know what Krytonite is. He's not permitted to use it here. Superman can, if he wants, fly at the speed of.. well, he's gone at the speed of light before. He also has extreme physical defense, able to fall into lava (I think) and just crawl back out just slightly annoyed.
Doomsday... I think he's comparable to Rhyperior. Massively durable but slow, and can't use any real long-range moves. He can't really hit Goku, but Goku will be hard-pressed to damage him. Lobotomising him, destorying his frontal lobe, didn't even last permenantly.
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Doomsday slow? Watch Superman: Doomsday and tell me otherwise. And once Doomsday got his hands on Goku, it'd be over. He wouldn't be able to brake Doomsday's grip so all he kid do is blast him which wouldn't work after the first shot, and wait to die a painful death.
Oh, and Juggernaut could stand up to Doomsday too.
I suppose I've been watching the other versions where he is not as powerful, nor is anyone else.
I expect Omega-level mutants would be able to do something, at least once. Though msot of them are physically frail.
I expect Omega-level mutants would be able to do something, at least once. Though msot of them are physically frail.
Juggernaut would probably do the most damage, with him being immortal and having the same type of regeneration as Doomsday. But Doomsday would probably just stop the Juggernaut in his tracks.
Here`s one of my special long posts.
Goku can survive on the sun. He`s taken planet crushing hits before. Broly was just SS 1 and destroyed countless galaxies. Goku can do the same at SS 2. Goku`s reflexes are supberb. Theres no way he`d die against Doomsday. Let me go show you an episode of DBZ. (Cell games.) At speeds Doomsday can`t see, he can`t grasp him. And lets not forget about the blinding Solar Flare technique. After blinding Doomsday, he`ll open the rift and trap him there forever. Goku doesn`t need Kryptonite. I never said he`d use it anyway. Fights aren`t all about power and speed. They`re about skill and strategy. (Which Goku has in every stat.) And since Goku`s been in countless fights, he has a tonne of experience. Super Saiyan 1 Goku has been compared to Super Man. Not anything higher. Goku even killed Broly. (Twice.) Majin Buu and other forms were said to be invincible/immortal, and they`ve died. (Except Majin Buu. He became a good guy.)
Gods are immortal. They can only be killed by other gods or legendary things. (Perseus.) Goku is the Legendary Super Saiyan.
Since Goku surpasses them in every category except regeneration and nullification, he`ll just beat them the first time, open a rift to the HTC, and throw them in there. When they revive, they`ll have no one to fight but each other. (Since Goku throws both of them in there, Doomsday can only fight that other guy, while Goku leaves.) They`ll be there forever. Remember, when a Saiyan is in danger, or escapes death barely, they`re powerlevel rises tremendously. Cell had Saiyan cells, because he was made up of the Z fighters DNA. When he was about to use Kamikaze to blow up the Earth, Goku teleported them to King Kai's planet. But a sincle cell survived on Earth, and Cell regenerated and had an even stronger powerlevel. So when a Saiyans health go`s down, their strength, speed, abilities/techniques, and reflexes go up tremendously.
Here`s the DBZ episode.
http://dbze164.blogspot.com/
Your also forgetting that Goku can use Multiform, and the Afterimage Technique. Multiform- Creates duplicates of you, but divides your powerlevel. Afterimage Technique- There are several afterimages that appear, most being just the image after you travel really fast. So Doomsday and that other guy will have to figure out which ones real, have to deal with 4 Goku`s, (Or more) and will be blinded by Solar Flare. He can also combine Multiform and the Afterimage Technique to create 4 real Goku's (or more) and have them use the Afterimage Technique. OR use multiform, and have them all use Solar Flare to blind Doomsday and that other guy.
As you can see in the episode, he can also charge up the Kamehameha wave and use the Instant Transmission to warp and shoot.
I have backed up my statements thouroughly. You can`t say Goku won`t have the opprotunity to create the rift and trap them there. Think thats cheap? Goku could also have the King Kais to seal them away like they did to Bojack. Goku's goal is to beat his opponents. Not kill them. Or Goku will just use the Instant Transmission to teleport them into a black hole. Goku can over power it's gravitational pull at SS4. Lets just say he can`t. Then he would open the a rift, go in it via Instant Transmission, and let the rift close, and open another one that will take him back to Earth or away from the black hole, and use Instant Transmission to warp back to Earth. I`m sure he can beat a black holes gravity of course, but since there is no proof that I know of for this, I backed up how he could get out by using a different method. He could also turn SS 4 and disturb it`s gravitational force.
I may have some spelling mistakes due to this post being ridiculously long. Also, to make sure they don`t follow him back out of the rift, he`ll blind them, teleport far away, and leave. The rift stays open for about 10-20 seconds only, before it corrects the fluctuation in the fabric of time and space.
Goku can survive on the sun. He`s taken planet crushing hits before. Broly was just SS 1 and destroyed countless galaxies. Goku can do the same at SS 2. Goku`s reflexes are supberb. Theres no way he`d die against Doomsday. Let me go show you an episode of DBZ. (Cell games.) At speeds Doomsday can`t see, he can`t grasp him. And lets not forget about the blinding Solar Flare technique. After blinding Doomsday, he`ll open the rift and trap him there forever. Goku doesn`t need Kryptonite. I never said he`d use it anyway. Fights aren`t all about power and speed. They`re about skill and strategy. (Which Goku has in every stat.) And since Goku`s been in countless fights, he has a tonne of experience. Super Saiyan 1 Goku has been compared to Super Man. Not anything higher. Goku even killed Broly. (Twice.) Majin Buu and other forms were said to be invincible/immortal, and they`ve died. (Except Majin Buu. He became a good guy.)
Gods are immortal. They can only be killed by other gods or legendary things. (Perseus.) Goku is the Legendary Super Saiyan.
Since Goku surpasses them in every category except regeneration and nullification, he`ll just beat them the first time, open a rift to the HTC, and throw them in there. When they revive, they`ll have no one to fight but each other. (Since Goku throws both of them in there, Doomsday can only fight that other guy, while Goku leaves.) They`ll be there forever. Remember, when a Saiyan is in danger, or escapes death barely, they`re powerlevel rises tremendously. Cell had Saiyan cells, because he was made up of the Z fighters DNA. When he was about to use Kamikaze to blow up the Earth, Goku teleported them to King Kai's planet. But a sincle cell survived on Earth, and Cell regenerated and had an even stronger powerlevel. So when a Saiyans health go`s down, their strength, speed, abilities/techniques, and reflexes go up tremendously.
Here`s the DBZ episode.
http://dbze164.blogspot.com/
Your also forgetting that Goku can use Multiform, and the Afterimage Technique. Multiform- Creates duplicates of you, but divides your powerlevel. Afterimage Technique- There are several afterimages that appear, most being just the image after you travel really fast. So Doomsday and that other guy will have to figure out which ones real, have to deal with 4 Goku`s, (Or more) and will be blinded by Solar Flare. He can also combine Multiform and the Afterimage Technique to create 4 real Goku's (or more) and have them use the Afterimage Technique. OR use multiform, and have them all use Solar Flare to blind Doomsday and that other guy.
As you can see in the episode, he can also charge up the Kamehameha wave and use the Instant Transmission to warp and shoot.
I have backed up my statements thouroughly. You can`t say Goku won`t have the opprotunity to create the rift and trap them there. Think thats cheap? Goku could also have the King Kais to seal them away like they did to Bojack. Goku's goal is to beat his opponents. Not kill them. Or Goku will just use the Instant Transmission to teleport them into a black hole. Goku can over power it's gravitational pull at SS4. Lets just say he can`t. Then he would open the a rift, go in it via Instant Transmission, and let the rift close, and open another one that will take him back to Earth or away from the black hole, and use Instant Transmission to warp back to Earth. I`m sure he can beat a black holes gravity of course, but since there is no proof that I know of for this, I backed up how he could get out by using a different method. He could also turn SS 4 and disturb it`s gravitational force.
I may have some spelling mistakes due to this post being ridiculously long. Also, to make sure they don`t follow him back out of the rift, he`ll blind them, teleport far away, and leave. The rift stays open for about 10-20 seconds only, before it corrects the fluctuation in the fabric of time and space.
Wow. Fierce Deity, you're completely biased opinion astounds me because from reading your "special long post", I've deducted that you've never read a Superman comic in your life.
Here's where you're wrong. Superman is faster than Goku. Superman is 7.8 times faster than the speed of light, just under Flash's speed. And Goku would need time to open up this dimensional rift stuff that you keep talking about, which Superman is not an idiot so he wouldn't give him the chance to. Since you're putting Goku at his strongest, I'll put Superman at his strongest, Pre-Crisis.
People always call in fusion, or SSJ4 Goku at his strongest, so why not use Superman at his strongest? Superman Prime has been living in the SUN for 15,000 years, and he has the Green Lantern ring, the Universe's Most Powerful weapon. By that time, Supes is no longer hurt by Kryptonite, he has absorbed so much solar energy that he cannot be hurt by anything other than a psychic attack (psychic attacks only give him headaches), and the Green Lantern ring is limited only by willpower in what it can do.
Goku has instant transmission? The Flash can run over 8 times the speed of light, and Superman barely lost to him in a footrace. That means that Superman can move at around 7.7 times the speed of light. Goku's instant transmission is only 99% speed of light.
Superman closed a black hole with his bare hands
Superman is impervious to ki attacks. There are ki users in the DCU, and they do not affect Superman.
Need more?
Here's where you're wrong. Superman is faster than Goku. Superman is 7.8 times faster than the speed of light, just under Flash's speed. And Goku would need time to open up this dimensional rift stuff that you keep talking about, which Superman is not an idiot so he wouldn't give him the chance to. Since you're putting Goku at his strongest, I'll put Superman at his strongest, Pre-Crisis.
People always call in fusion, or SSJ4 Goku at his strongest, so why not use Superman at his strongest? Superman Prime has been living in the SUN for 15,000 years, and he has the Green Lantern ring, the Universe's Most Powerful weapon. By that time, Supes is no longer hurt by Kryptonite, he has absorbed so much solar energy that he cannot be hurt by anything other than a psychic attack (psychic attacks only give him headaches), and the Green Lantern ring is limited only by willpower in what it can do.
Goku has instant transmission? The Flash can run over 8 times the speed of light, and Superman barely lost to him in a footrace. That means that Superman can move at around 7.7 times the speed of light. Goku's instant transmission is only 99% speed of light.
Superman closed a black hole with his bare hands
Superman is impervious to ki attacks. There are ki users in the DCU, and they do not affect Superman.
Need more?
I think you wrapped that one up pretty nicely.
NyJonesy26 said:
Thank you.
Lets see. Goku in his prime is Super Saiya-jin 4. He can destroy the universe. If it's all destroyed wheres Super Man going to be? I never said psychic.
Solar Flare blinds you for a couple of minutes. Giving Goku some time for a Spirit Bomb. If Super Man is hit by a Spirit Bomb, he will immediatly start to disinigrate or be severly injured.
Goku in his normal form when holding the Spirit Bomb, took all of Omega Shenron`s attacks without even phasing. Super Man may be faster, but that's in a foot race. I`ve never seen his movement suddenly jerk several times in a row. Therefore Goku is more nimble and agile. If he`s fused with Vegeta then theres no doubt he`d win. He could destroy the universe in a flash with Big Bang Kamehameha×100. Full power would definitly be enough.
Btw. You can`t curse on this site.
Solar Flare blinds you for a couple of minutes. Giving Goku some time for a Spirit Bomb. If Super Man is hit by a Spirit Bomb, he will immediatly start to disinigrate or be severly injured.
Goku in his normal form when holding the Spirit Bomb, took all of Omega Shenron`s attacks without even phasing. Super Man may be faster, but that's in a foot race. I`ve never seen his movement suddenly jerk several times in a row. Therefore Goku is more nimble and agile. If he`s fused with Vegeta then theres no doubt he`d win. He could destroy the universe in a flash with Big Bang Kamehameha×100. Full power would definitly be enough.
Btw. You can`t curse on this site.
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