Pokemon Will Pokemon die out?

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shiwei87tan

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i mean the original designer/artist died, and the pokemon design and plot of the show that was out after that seems to doesn't really attract younger kids to watch them especially in Singapore and Malaysia, where in the past i will see lots of kids playing with pokemon toys or games on the gameboys and nds.. but now the younger kids are no longer interested in pokemon as to them it's just a boring show while attracted to anime like one piece, hitman reborn and etc and don't find the games interesting at all or even know that the game existed since the gameboys era..
so do you guys think it will die out? maybe only the show and games will be gone except for the TCG and new pokemon will be out for the TCG without a show introduction like now.. =/
 
Moved, because it is about Pokémon in general rather than TCG.
 
Yes. Everything dies, and so will you and I. The question is when.

I don't think Pokemon will die anytime soon. Led by the Anime and Video Games, it has a lasting pull on younger children. To the mature population, I can see it dying within the next couple decades.
 
I can only imagine what Pokemon will be like 20 years from now, even if it lasts that long. If they do decide to end the series and games, then they should do so on a high note, and address all the good things and the things that weren't so good over the long time of success they've had. It's one of the greatest franchises in the history of the world. 'Nuff said.
 
Pokemon 20 years from now:

Galactzor (250/300/250/150/250/400)
Trait: Instant Kill
EVs: 1000 HP / 5000 Atk / 1500 Def / 2000 SDef / 9000 Spd
Spicy Nature (+Atk, +Spd, -2 points SAtk)
- Focus Power
- Galactic Laser
- Tackle
- Growl
 
ShadowLugia said:
I can only imagine what Pokemon will be like 20 years from now, even if it lasts that long. If they do decide to end the series and games, then they should do so on a high note, and address all the good things and the things that weren't so good over the long time of success they've had. It's one of the greatest franchises in the history of the world. 'Nuff said.
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pokemon the greatest franchies? i thought it's digimon since compare to pokemon.. digimon is stronger at my place even though the card games is a failure, the show and digivice is a big success IMO.. i played lots of different TCG and CCG.. ranging from pokemon, magic to WWE (died out) and weis schwars and etc.. the most successful in card game would be magic that even a 7 yrs old kids know about it even though they don't play them and followed by pokemon for TCG.. CCG there's the recent weis schwars for otaku and partial-otaku like me and vanguard targeting younger kids..

IMO in maybe 10 to 20 years, either they make pokemon able to evolve further than stage 2 or some other special stuff like more pokemon like garde.. the game and show would end except for the card game if the design of the current pokemon goes on unattractive like BW.. the pokemon in BW is only attractive in the card game cause of their effect for the card game format.. god knows maybe wizards or other company might buy it back and change it into web-comic or novel base to continue designing new pokemon and new effect with action base and turn it to target teenagers instead of kids.. LOL!

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god know.. and that's why i think it might dies out since in order to attract kids.. you have to promote and create even stronger pokemon every time.. and it will make no sense at all since the story goes from 1 region to another and the world is round.. unless they say the pokemon world is flat and unlimited, soon for eg region Z will ends up next to region A and the difference in power will be too great..
 
Relative to the time it's been around, Pokémon is the single best selling video game series ever (with Super Mario coming in second). It sounds like Pokémon is simply not popular where you live. Based on what you say, I'm going to bet you live in Singapore or Malaysia. Nintendo doesn't have nearly the cultural influence that it has in the rest of the world (besides Scandinavia and the Philippines), so it's totally understandable that you feel Pokémon has the image that it's on the verge of collapse.

It actually isn't. Pokémon Black and White reached 1 milion sales in Japan the day after it came out, and it took 1 week to do the same in North America. It's actually so successful in Japan, it has its own variety show that exists totally separately from the anime. If the years since the franchise came out, Nintendo has received no less than $1 billion of sales from Pokémon every year.

I'm actually pretty surprised, and highly amused, that Digimon is very popular where you're at. Here, it lost steam rapidly after Digimon Tamers. Saban sold the rights to Disney, Disney aired Digimon Savers, and Disney's just been sitting on the rights and not doing anything with Xros Force because Savers failed to bring in good ratings. Believe me, I am a Digimon fan too, within the tiny intersection of the Venn diagram. I want the Digimon franchise to succeed here, but there hasn't been much of, well, anything here. (And the card game--both attempts--failed because they had deep flaws in the rules that the cards could never hope to iron out. The first was completely dominated by luck, and the second had a ridiculous snowballing effect.)

If you ever get the chance, try taking a trip to Japan or the United States. You'll be pleasantly surprised at how big they are here.
 
Ophie said:
Relative to the time it's been around, Pokémon is the single best selling video game series ever (with Super Mario coming in second). It sounds like Pokémon is simply not popular where you live. Based on what you say, I'm going to bet you live in Singapore or Malaysia. Nintendo doesn't have nearly the cultural influence that it has in the rest of the world (besides Scandinavia and the Philippines), so it's totally understandable that you feel Pokémon has the image that it's on the verge of collapse.

It actually isn't. Pokémon Black and White reached 1 milion sales in Japan the day after it came out, and it took 1 week to do the same in North America. It's actually so successful in Japan, it has its own variety show that exists totally separately from the anime. If the years since the franchise came out, Nintendo has received no less than $1 billion of sales from Pokémon every year.

I'm actually pretty surprised, and highly amused, that Digimon is very popular where you're at. Here, it lost steam rapidly after Digimon Tamers. Saban sold the rights to Disney, Disney aired Digimon Savers, and Disney's just been sitting on the rights and not doing anything with Xros Force because Savers failed to bring in good ratings. Believe me, I am a Digimon fan too, within the tiny intersection of the Venn diagram. I want the Digimon franchise to succeed here, but there hasn't been much of, well, anything here. (And the card game--both attempts--failed because they had deep flaws in the rules that the cards could never hope to iron out. The first was completely dominated by luck, and the second had a ridiculous snowballing effect.)

If you ever get the chance, try taking a trip to Japan or the United States. You'll be pleasantly surprised at how big they are here.
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yup! i live in Singapore.. actually maybe it also got to do with the show too.. the show for pokemon are always showed on sat or sun.. but i think maybe it's course of copyright stuff or what.. the show that was on are pretty older episode or even repeats weeks before.. =/

Complexy990 said:
As long as Nintendo loves money, Pokemon will live on.
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totally agrees on that.. but i heard that the next upcoming pokemon game (if there is) will not be on nintendo platform as they are not going to create more version of NDS and playstation is buying over nintendo.. is it true?
 
Playstation isn't a company; Sony is. I haven't heard anything about them buying out Nintendo and I seriously doubt that will happen. Nintendo makes plenty of money as it is with classic characters like Mario, Kirby, and of course, Pokemon. Most likely, the next main-series Pokemon game will be for the 3DS because it's the latest handheld Nintendo console and there haven't been any main-series Pokemon games on it.
 
shiwei87tan said:
i mean the original designer/artist died, and the pokemon design and plot of the show that was out after that seems to doesn't really attract younger kids to watch them especially in Singapore and Malaysia, where in the past i will see lots of kids playing with pokemon toys or games on the gameboys and nds.. but now the younger kids are no longer interested in pokemon as to them it's just a boring show while attracted to anime like one piece, hitman reborn and etc and don't find the games interesting at all or even know that the game existed since the gameboys era..
so do you guys think it will die out? maybe only the show and games will be gone except for the TCG and new pokemon will be out for the TCG without a show introduction like now.. =/
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Actually, Satoshi Tajiri did not die, contrary to the false Twitter reports. Ken Sugimori and Tajiri himself confirmed that he's still alive.

Also, I don't think Pokemon's going to die. It's one of Nintendo's largest money makers, and lately TPCI has been doing a lot of advertising for the Fifth generation.
 
shiwei87tan said:
totally agrees on that.. but i heard that the next upcoming pokemon game (if there is) will not be on nintendo platform as they are not going to create more version of NDS and playstation is buying over nintendo.. is it true?
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Unless Sony is willing to pay something in the ballpark of 8 billion dollars, Nintendo will never be bought out. A Japanese company will stick it until they're bankrupt. Sega is worth much less, and they're still independent.

As said, someone decided to start the wildfire rumors of Tajiri being killed in the March 2011 earthquake. Even if it was true, Tajiri is one of the many who bring us Pokemon-related stuff. You have Sugimori, Masuda, the president of The Pokemon Company, the college kids who played GS, that guy who made the ice cream cone... the list goes on.

But my gosh man, where are you hearing all these rumors?
 
The Legend of Zelda and Super Mario are far older than Pokemon and still have vibrant fanbases. Though stuff does go dead to an extent, it never really dies completely and at time rebounds when a new generation of fans discovers it. Or even if they don't, some fans are just too die-hard to really let their favorite series fizzle out completely.
 
i heard all these rumors when asking around any famous artist or designer or mangaka for popular anime or manga gets injured or unfortunately killed in the earthquake.. and the rumor on sony buying over nintendo is when i'm asking around about pokemon games and possible new function to the game.. so ya.. one way or another it gives the feeling of pokemon is dying out and stuff..
 
The only person involved with Pokémon who was in the area during that earthquake was TCG illustrator Hajime Kusajima, who reported that he's perfectly fine. He's back to illustrating cards.

Also, former CEO Hiroshi Yamauchi and current CEO Satoru Iwata have both said that they would rather Nintendo go bankrupt than sell it to another company. Microsoft offered to buy Nintendo for some HUGE sum (about $10 billion) during the Gamecube days with the incentive that Microsoft has a plan to crush Sony; Iwata turned down the offer and stated that reason. (Another company tried this when Yamauchi ran Nintendo and also stated that; I forgot which company, but I believe it was Universal Pictures.)

Also, thanks to Mario Kart 7 and Super Mario 3D Land (and in Japan, Monster Hunter 3D), the 3DS is back on its feet. The Vita, so far, has flopped at launch harder than the 3DS did in Japan; we can only wait and see how it'll do elsewhere. I'm sure it'll pick up momentum later on, but Nintendo has the current advantage in the handheld market.
 
Ophie said:
The only person involved with Pokémon who was in the area during that earthquake was TCG illustrator Hajime Kusajima, who reported that he's perfectly fine. He's back to illustrating cards.

Also, former CEO Hiroshi Yamauchi and current CEO Satoru Iwata have both said that they would rather Nintendo go bankrupt than sell it to another company. Microsoft offered to buy Nintendo for some HUGE sum (about $10 billion) during the Gamecube days with the incentive that Microsoft has a plan to crush Sony; Iwata turned down the offer and stated that reason. (Another company tried this when Yamauchi ran Nintendo and also stated that; I forgot which company, but I believe it was Universal Pictures.)

Also, thanks to Mario Kart 7 and Super Mario 3D Land (and in Japan, Monster Hunter 3D), the 3DS is back on its feet. The Vita, so far, has flopped at launch harder than the 3DS did in Japan; we can only wait and see how it'll do elsewhere. I'm sure it'll pick up momentum later on, but Nintendo has the current advantage in the handheld market.
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well.. it's good to hear that..
 
I know it's hard to imagine the Pokemon we know right now to actually be considered old, but in the future, as technology evolves, so do Pokemon, their looks, style, moves, and mythology. Pokemon is doing way better than it was a long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, so unless one of their main people die or are seriously injured to the extent they can't do anything, Pokemon is here to stay.
 
The only thing hurting the Pokemon franchise right now is the very low quality of the Anime series and the stagnation of the TCG itself currently. Other than that the Video game series is doing just fine and surprisingly doing alot better than the TCG and the Anime, the Manga I hear has been doing great so far but mainly in Japan. I feel as though Pokemon is a type of franchise that is being held back by nostalgia too much and the Anime hasn't helped with that at all recently especially when it comes to continuity issues that dates back when the English Dub premiered on Kids WB.

Nintendo is still a shadow of it's former self and it still needs to win back the Hardcore Gamer base they once had during the N64 Era If it wants to compete better against Sony and Microsoft which are dominating the video game industry right now. The Wii U is looking like a flop so it seems like Nintendo might be done with Consoles for good since they are doing better with the Handheld Gaming market. The only other company that is on par with Nintendo in the handheld gaming market is Sony, as Microsoft is too focused nowadays on FPS's and Console games.
 
Card Slinger J said:
Nintendo is still a shadow of it's former self and it still needs to win back the Hardcore Gamer base they once had during the N64 Era If it wants to compete better against Sony and Microsoft which are dominating the video game industry right now. The Wii U is looking like a flop so it seems like Nintendo might be done with Consoles for good since they are doing better with the Handheld Gaming market. The only other company that is on par with Nintendo in the handheld gaming market is Sony, as Microsoft is too focused nowadays on FPS's and Console games.
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Dude, Nintendo have never had a hardcore market. Other companies making games for a Nintendo console did.

Microsoft are pure failure when it comes to comparing consoles, so I'll ignore it in this post.

Sony and Nintendo have ALWAYS survived alongside each other. Nintendo typically win most in their handheld market, but their consoles are in no way a flop. The Wii may have been one of the most gimmicky, annoying systems to ever walk out with the Nintendo name, but it sold. A lot. More than Sony and, no wonder here, Microsoft.

The Revolution, (I hate the name WiiU. They have been talking about changing it, and the Wii was going to be named Revolution. I just like to refer to it as such) is clearly trying to win back "Hardcore" gamers anyways. So basically, I see every one of your points to be null. (Speaking of "Hardcore" where was that term ever made? It sounds ridiculous, can't we just stick with Casual Gamers and Gamers?)

Before someone goes hating on me for me hating Microsoft, I must let you know. I own ALL THREE consoles. The Xbox was a huge mistake to ever want.

It has a few exclusives that are good, few being really only two. Halo (I don't play, but I know many who say it has a great story, so whatever, it's on the list) and Tales of Vesperia. Vesperia is the only game I would put money on to put on my Xbox.

And to rub salt into the wounds, Money Hungry $oft want me to pay $60 to use my own internet. PS3 is equal in terms of online and it's free.

Rant over.

As for Pokemon dying out, of course it will happen. When, no one knows, but not any time soon. I expect to see at least a 7th generation before even thinking about it dying. Unless everyone just decides to hate it, then it will die quicker obviously.
 
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