XY X / Y Box Art Subtly Reveals Legendaries Typing?

[CyberCat5555]

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Now that the Fairy type is confirmed, I think that Xerneas will be Fairy/Steel or Fairy/Electric. I cannot see it being Grass type in anyway whatsoever. I know some people will say Grass because it's a deer, but Stantler is also a deer and is pure Normal. The only reason Sawsbuck is part Grass is because of the leaves on its antlers. Another reasion is because of its antlers look like branches (I cannot see that at all, that's just how antlers look) or that it lives in a forest, but several non-Grass types live in forests also.

The reason I think /Steel is because of its metallic-black coat and glowing blades on its legs and chest, it may also be a pun on chrom(e)osomes. And that I think it may be bionic, based on its strange appearance.

And for /Electric is that DNA is a negatively charged molecule, also because Xern may be, one again, inspired by bionics (which comes from bio and electronics). Another reasion I think this is because of the glowing parts on it, which to me look like LEDs or el tape. Also, Electric-types can be a little ambiguous on their type, like Flaaffy, as said before, as well as Eelektrik (if you haven't heard its name) and Zekrom, who looks like a Dark/Steel type.

Last but not least is Yveltal, who I think is still Dark/Flying and inspired by bio-augmentation, to contrast Xern's slight technological appearance. Enhanced biology vs added technology is also a slight theme of the 16th movie. All of this ties in with the supposed DNA theme of gen 6.

The reason I think that both Xern and Yvel are artificial is because all other version mascots have been ancient entities, and GF tries to keep things fresh, and it doesn't seem like they would use the "ancient legendary mascot" for the 4th generation in a row, especially how gen 5 "rebooted" the series as a whole.

 

[Bashamo]

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I think they say grass because it looks like a forest protector and it's box art has a bunch of plants on it. It could be anything though.

I think Yvetal is dark/ flying

 

[Raptor9229]

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Meh, to me Flaaffy has always looked like an electric type especially when you look at Mareep whose name is basically an anagram of ampere.

I doubt many people would have guessed Electric if they only knew about Flaaffy, a pink sheep; a Normal or a Psychic type is what many would have thought.

You will probably have seen a Mareep before you would have seen a Flaaffy though and to the guy saying that Xerneas has to be grass type because it is a forest protector . . .

Guess that means that Keldeo, Terakkion, and Cobalion should be grass type too because they are kind of forest protectors too. (Note that I did not include Virizion because that one is already a grass type)

 

[Bashamo]

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I doubt many people would have guessed Electric if they only knew about Flaaffy, a pink sheep; a Normal or a Psychic type is what many would have thought.

You will probably have seen a Mareep before you would have seen a Flaaffy though and to the guy saying that Xerneas has to be grass type because it is a forest protector . . .

Guess that means that Keldeo, Terakkion, and Cobalion should be grass type too because they are kind of forest protectors too. (Note that I did not include Virizion because that one is already a grass type)

1st of all: I didn't say they had to be, don't put words in my post

2nd of all: The musketeers are general protectors, they protect the forests, the lands, the mountains, the tundras, etc. from human tyranny over pokemon.

 

[Mitja]

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Now that the Fairy type is confirmed, I think that Xerneas will be Fairy/Steel or Fairy/Electric. I cannot see it being Grass type in anyway whatsoever. I know some people will say Grass because it's a deer, but Stantler is also a deer and is pure Normal. The only reason Sawsbuck is part Grass is because of the leaves on its antlers. Another reasion is because of its antlers look like branches (I cannot see that at all, that's just how antlers look) or that it lives in a forest, but several non-Grass types live in forests also.

The reason I think /Steel is because of its metallic-black coat and glowing blades on its legs and chest, it may also be a pun on chrom(e)osomes. And that I think it may be bionic, based on its strange appearance.

And for /Electric is that DNA is a negatively charged molecule, also because Xern may be, one again, inspired by bionics (which comes from bio and electronics). Another reasion I think this is because of the glowing parts on it, which to me look like LEDs or el tape. Also, Electric-types can be a little ambiguous on their type, like Flaaffy, as said before, as well as Eelektrik (if you haven't heard its name) and Zekrom, who looks like a Dark/Steel type.

Last but not least is Yveltal, who I think is still Dark/Flying and inspired by bio-augmentation, to contrast Xern's slight technological appearance. Enhanced biology vs added technology is also a slight theme of the 16th movie. All of this ties in with the supposed DNA theme of gen 6.

The reason I think that both Xern and Yvel are artificial is because all other version mascots have been ancient entities, and GF tries to keep things fresh, and it doesn't seem like they would use the "ancient legendary mascot" for the 4th generation in a row, especially how gen 5 "rebooted" the series as a whole.

the main reason I think it could be Grass is because that's the type Id choose to represent concepts like "life-force" and nature. assuming thats even remotely what Xerneas is about of course.

 

[CyberCat5555]

RE: X/Y Box Art Subtly Reveals Legendaries Typing?

Now that the Fairy type is confirmed, I think that Xerneas will be Fairy/Steel or Fairy/Electric. I cannot see it being Grass type in anyway whatsoever. I know some people will say Grass because it's a deer, but Stantler is also a deer and is pure Normal. The only reason Sawsbuck is part Grass is because of the leaves on its antlers. Another reasion is because of its antlers look like branches (I cannot see that at all, that's just how antlers look) or that it lives in a forest, but several non-Grass types live in forests also.

The reason I think /Steel is because of its metallic-black coat and glowing blades on its legs and chest, it may also be a pun on chrom(e)osomes. And that I think it may be bionic, based on its strange appearance.

And for /Electric is that DNA is a negatively charged molecule, also because Xern may be, one again, inspired by bionics (which comes from bio and electronics). Another reasion I think this is because of the glowing parts on it, which to me look like LEDs or el tape. Also, Electric-types can be a little ambiguous on their type, like Flaaffy, as said before, as well as Eelektrik (if you haven't heard its name) and Zekrom, who looks like a Dark/Steel type.

Last but not least is Yveltal, who I think is still Dark/Flying and inspired by bio-augmentation, to contrast Xern's slight technological appearance. Enhanced biology vs added technology is also a slight theme of the 16th movie. All of this ties in with the supposed DNA theme of gen 6.

The reason I think that both Xern and Yvel are artificial is because all other version mascots have been ancient entities, and GF tries to keep things fresh, and it doesn't seem like they would use the "ancient legendary mascot" for the 4th generation in a row, especially how gen 5 "rebooted" the series as a whole.

the main reason I think it could be Grass is because that's the type Id choose to represent concepts like "life-force" and nature. assuming thats even remotely what Xerneas is about of course.

I do not see in any way that Xerneas can represent life or nature, just like I can't see Yveltal representing death or destruction. Explain?

 

[Ghost King]

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I can see why Xerneas is grass because it was surround by Pokemon, in nature etc...grass\fairy
Y mascot is dark crismon which resembles death,blood, destruction which looks flying\dark

 

[Ohman177]

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Flying/Dark seems fairly obvious for Y. X on the other hand could be all kinds of sh**. Although I do believe the top 3 possible combinations are Grass, Fairy, and Steel in no particular order. Something from those is my guess.

 

[CyberCat5555]

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I can see why Xerneas is grass because it was surround by Pokemon, in nature etc...grass\fairy
Y mascot is dark crismon which resembles death,blood, destruction which looks flying\dark

Several non-grass types also live in nature and protect it, such as the musketeers and Suicune. I will never see how anyone can think Xerneas looks even remotely like a grass type, because it lives in nature or a forest is not enough to justify its type. Like I said, several non-Grass types live in a forest also. I am still betting on Fairy/Electric or Fairy/Steel.
Just because a Pokemon looks all dark and red does not mean it represents death. I even think that Yveltal looks more "alive" or "organic" than Xerneas, because it has clearly exposed veins and/or a nervous system (the black markings on its body). I don't see anyway it can represent destruction. Scary looking=/=evil and death

 

[professorlight]

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Several non-grass types also live in nature and protect it, such as the musketeers and Suicune

Suicune purifies water, and the muskedeers are more based in "taking a stand" for pokemon and justice against human opressors than "protecting nature", that's more like celebi's schtick, to an extent (and guess what? celebi is a grass type).

I will never see how anyone can think Xerneas looks even remotely like a grass type, because it lives in nature or a forest is not enough to justify its type... Just because a Pokemon looks all dark and red does not mean it represents death

And just because a pokemon looks (to you) all artificial / metallized / LED glowing doesn't make it electric or steel type, the same way that xerneas standing on the earth doesn't make it a ground type.

it has clearly exposed veins and/or a nervous system (the black markings on its body)

Well, an "artificial" (again, according to you) look doesn't necessarily mean the pokemon its artificial, just look at zekrom.

The only reason we think of xerneas as grass is because of the setting it was first showed (if they showed yveltal diving, we would speculate a dark/water type) that gesture was loaded with intent. (remember when they first showed reshi/zekrom: just a black/white background. Plus, its antlers look like branches of a tree (but that's not news, see sawsbuck).

 

[Their Goominess]

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Everyone's saying that Xerneas is Fairy/Grass, Fairy/Electric or Fairy/Steel....
Has anyone considered that it may just be a pure Fairy type? It's perfectly logical and could happen.

I will never see how anyone can think Xerneas looks even remotely like a grass type, because it lives in nature or a forest is not enough to justify its type.

I will never see how anyone can think Xerneas looks even remotely like a Steel type. Because it's partially blue is not enough to justify its type

If it is Fairy/Grass or any other type that you don't want it to be, you'll just have to deal with it. There's more evidence to suggest it being Grass than any type, whether you like it or not.
If it's Fairy/Grass then it's Fairy/Grass, they will not change it's typing because one fan dislikes it. The same applies to myself, I personally don't want Xerneas as a Steel type, but if it's Fairy/Steel then I'll just deal with it, maybe use it a couple times. There is absolutely nothing we can do that could remotely have an influence on what type(s) Xerneas is.

And bearing in mind we know absolutely nothing about their history, backstory etc. If it turns out something like 'Xerneas gives life to all plants' or something along those lines, then Grass is easily the best choice to represent that.
If it turns out that it's a kind of forest guardian/king then Grass, again could be a good choice to represent that.
And even then, their backstory may not have an influence on their types. See Dialga/Palkia - there's nothing in their backstory that would imply they'd be Steel/Water respectively.

Also, prof.light, I so agree with everything in your post

edit: psuedo-rant added

 

[Flys Gone 2071]

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I don't think that Psychic, Electric or Steel are a good fit. I could see it being Fairy or Grass and to some extent Ground (depending on back story) but all the other types don't seem to me like they fit. I say Grass/Fairy, Grass/Ground or pure Grass or Fairy (even though I don't want them to make it Fairy it fits). I don't think they represent Creation/Destruction (maybe life and death) but if they do represent it, Grass/Fairy would be the obvious choice.

 

[CyberCat5555]

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The only reason we think of xerneas as grass is because of the setting it was first showed (if they showed yveltal diving, we would speculate a dark/water type) that gesture was loaded with intent. (remember when they first showed reshi/zekrom: just a black/white background. Plus, its antlers look like branches of a tree (but that's not news, see sawsbuck).

Just because a Pokemon lives in a certain habitat does not meat it's that type. Zubat lives in dark caves, but it is not a Dark/Rock type. Stunfisk can only be found in water, but it is not a Water type, in fact it is weak to Water. As for living in forests/woods, Slakoth is a pure Normal type and can only be found in the Petalburg Woods, and Pikachu is an Electric-type and can be found in the Viridian Forest. What I'm saying is that not just Grass types live in forests. I don't really think that GF would use the same type for a very similar Pokemon for 2 generations in a row.

I will never see how anyone can think Xerneas looks even remotely like a Steel type. Because it's partially blue is not enough to justify its type

And bearing in mind we know absolutely nothing about their history, backstory etc. If it turns out something like 'Xerneas gives life to all plants' or something along those lines, then Grass is easily the best choice to represent that.
If it turns out that it's a kind of forest guardian/king then Grass, again could be a good choice to represent that.

I don't think it's possibly a Steel type just because of its blue fur. I think is may be a Steel type on account of the sleek, metallic black material (not sure if it's fur) that covers its body. I also get Steel-type vibes from the glowing blades on its legs and chest.

As for "forest king/queen/guardian" or "gave life to all plants" that just seems rather bland, don't Celebi and Landorus sort of fill those roles already? We have nothing to even say that is what Xerneas does, other than some plants on X version's cover art. But going on that logic, Giratina should be a Dark/Fire (black and red streaks on platinum's box art) type, no?

The reason I think that the "DNA" or "artificial" theories are more likely to be true, is on account of the DNA helix in the Japanese logos and that Xerneas and Yveltal even have the double helix implemented into their designs (Xerneas' antlers and the diamonds on Yveltal's back, representing the gaps in DNA).

As for pure Fairy, I do think that Fairy will be one of its types, but it seems to have something other than just Fairy in it.

 

[Ghost King]

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I highly doubt it will be fairy\steel:
1. No weaknesses(if rumors are true)
2. Way to over powered
3.Immune to poison and resistant to steel
4. Have a lot of resistances

 

[CyberCat5555]

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I highly doubt it will be fairy\steel:
1. No weaknesses(if rumors are true)
2. Way to over powered
3.Immune to poison and resistant to steel
4. Have a lot of resistances

It would still have a Ground, Fire and Fighting (it only does 2x to fighting, not resistant to it) weakness, Steel would do neutral damage.
It could make up for the resistances by having lower defensive stats.

 

[Their Goominess]

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The only reason we think of xerneas as grass is because of the setting it was first showed (if they showed yveltal diving, we would speculate a dark/water type) that gesture was loaded with intent. (remember when they first showed reshi/zekrom: just a black/white background. Plus, its antlers look like branches of a tree (but that's not news, see sawsbuck).

Just because a Pokemon lives in a certain habitat does not meat it's that type. Zubat lives in dark caves, but it is not a Dark/Rock type. Stunfisk can only be found in water, but it is not a Water type, in fact it is weak to Water. As for living in forests/woods, Slakoth is a pure Normal type and can only be found in the Petalburg Woods, and Pikachu is an Electric-type and can be found in the Viridian Forest. What I'm saying is that not just Grass types live in forests. I don't really think that GF would use the same type for a very similar Pokemon for 2 generations in a row.

I will never see how anyone can think Xerneas looks even remotely like a Steel type. Because it's partially blue is not enough to justify its type

And bearing in mind we know absolutely nothing about their history, backstory etc. If it turns out something like 'Xerneas gives life to all plants' or something along those lines, then Grass is easily the best choice to represent that.
If it turns out that it's a kind of forest guardian/king then Grass, again could be a good choice to represent that.

I don't think it's possibly a Steel type just because of its blue fur. I think is may be a Steel type on account of the sleek, metallic black material (not sure if it's fur) that covers its body. I also get Steel-type vibes from the glowing blades on its legs and chest.

As for "forest king/queen/guardian" or "gave life to all plants" that just seems rather bland, don't Celebi and Landorus sort of fill those roles already? We have nothing to even say that is what Xerneas does, other than some plants on X version's cover art. But going on that logic, Giratina should be a Dark/Fire (black and red streaks on platinum's box art) type, no?

The reason I think that the "DNA" or "artificial" theories are more likely to be true, is on account of the DNA helix in the Japanese logos and that Xerneas and Yveltal even have the double helix implemented into their designs (Xerneas' antlers and the diamonds on Yveltal's back, representing the gaps in DNA).

As for pure Fairy, I do think that Fairy will be one of its types, but it seems to have something other than just Fairy in it.

Just because there is a double helix in the Jp logos does not mean everything has to relate to DNA.
DNA=/= artificial either.
We have no idea how relevant DNA is to the plot, to the legendaries, to the evil team, anything. I'm not ruling out DNA as a possibility, it's just that we should open our minds to different possibilities, rather than saying 'DNA in logo = DNA theme confirmed!!1!'
Actual pictures of environment/whatever on boxart is a lot more likely to be relatable to the Pokemon themselves, whereas the Red/Grey/Black on Platinum's boxart was probably used because it's Giratina's color scheme.
If I looked at it at a glance, I'd assume Xerneas wouldn't have much to do with the forest, if anything. However, more signs seem to be pointing towards the forest than anything else - the boxart, it being in a forest in the 1st trailer.
*slightly off: does anyone think it would be cool if there was a blocked off point in the forest at the beginning of the game, and later we return home and find Xerneas in there? Just a thought*

They can even have multiple themes. Maybe Xerneas is a forest spirit/guardian/whatever that has some kind of DNA that the evil team seek in order to upgrade some existing Kalos Pokemon. (Yveltal+Talonflame and Xerneas+Gogoat?)

Altho we actually can't make a good guess as to what they do at the mo, we need to know more about them before we can make any proper guesses. Hoping July CoroCoro will give us more of an insight as to what Xerneas/Yveltal are, their types, what role they play, what they do etc.

And even tho Xern as a pure Fairy seems a bit bland, heres a reason why it could be a possibility.
Take all other legendaries:
Ho-Oh/Lugia - Fire and Psychic are their main elemental association, they have Flying slapped on cos they're birds
Groudon/Kyogre - these are pure types, because they have no other distinctive elemental association. I'm thinking that Xern/Yvel/Zmon will be a repeat of these, they all look different but have one major theme in common (which may or may not be DNA). The Zmon would be the ruler, and have the most power in the group
Dialga/Palkia/Giratina - I don't actually know why they're Steel/Water, but they're secondary dragons because of their design, plus its cool to have badass dragons as mascots
Tao trio - have Fire/Electricity/Ice in their design, plus, like the Creation trio, they only have a secondary Dragon type because of their design.

Notice a pattern? Most of these legendaries only have secondary types because of their design. They only have 1 'main' elemental type.
So Xerneas - Fairy and Yveltal - Dark/Flying would make sense. If these are true typings, then we could be seeing a 'good v dark' theme, or maybe chaos/order or whatever.

 

[Ghost King]

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I highly doubt it will be fairy\steel:
1. No weaknesses(if rumors are true)
2. Way to over powered
3.Immune to poison and resistant to steel
4. Have a lot of resistances

It would still have a Ground, Fire and Fighting (it only does 2x to fighting, not resistant to it) weakness, Steel would do neutral damage.
It could make up for the resistances by having lower defensive stats.

Oops I forgot about that. Oh well and stunfisk is a mud fish therefore it lives at the bottom slakoth is a sloth they live in trees. I can see it being fairy\fighting because, of the musketeers reference its leg are blade like, sacred sword, secret sword, or "something" sword.It could be a fairy\fighting.

 

[DrEspeon]

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Here's a thought to put out there. What if Xerneas isn't a fairy type?

 

[Ohman177]

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X being steel is speculated about because
1. His legs and feet appear to be swords
2. He seems a little rigid/glossy like metal would.
3. The rumor of DNA being the theme this generation and its being tampered with technologically.

 

[professorlight]

RE: X/Y Box Art Subtly Reveals Legendaries Typing?

So... still any doubts about xerneas being grass?