Yveltal EX / Darkrai EX

RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

So what is the best to counter Thundurus/ Deoxys Ex deck?
 
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

Another Thundurs/Deoxys EX deck...

In all seriousness, don't be too worried about the future. Dakrai Lasers is a strong deck right now, and will be that way until we know the meta for the new sets.
 
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

Yeah, but we can pretty much assume that Thundurus/Deoxys (or PlasmaBox as I like to call it) will be a strong deck that might require some teching.

In this, your best bet is Enhanced Hammers. It gives you a little bit of stall time to set up and start sweeping through their 170 HP EX's. The main threat from them is going to be the huge early game pressure they will put on you (similar to the problems this deck has with Landorus) and that a Kyurem or Snorlax can OHKO a charged Darkrai, which can really hurt.
 
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

what are soom good techs to put in this deck for this meta? i have like 4 extra slots
 
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

You have 4 extra slots? How? o.o Anyways, Enhanced Hammers are really solid, specially for the upcoming meta, you can always put Ninetales DRX as well
 
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

The best techs for this deck is more consistency.

dmaster out.
 
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

Four extra spots? Bicycle engine is very solid in this deck ... boosts speed and consistency along with ultra ball and computer search, it's one of the few decks that love have this tech.
 
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

urahara_hat said:
So what is the best to counter Thundurus/ Deoxys Ex deck?
Garbodor-based decks will be fun to watch in this match. I like the Landurus EX start vs. Thundurus EX.

On the other hand, I really like the revised "secret" big basics decks SoleMan has developed to counter this. The upcoming Battle Roads tournaments will be so much fun with these particular matchups.
 
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

He's talking about in Darkrai :p
 
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

Blah said:
He's talking about in Darkrai :p
No, do you even know whom I'm talking about?

I've run big basics most of the season - I AM definitely referring to the LMT deck, not Darkrai (which will have an eaiser matchup, IMHO).
 
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

What I meant to say is he's talking about the best way to counter Plasma in Darkrai, not in general.
 
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

Blah said:
What I meant to say is he's talking about the best way to counter Plasma in Darkrai, not in general.
Apologies, my bad.
 
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

urahara_hat said:
So what is the best to counter Thundurus/ Deoxys Ex deck?
I played 5 games yesterday against a PlasmaBox deck and won 4 of 5. I ran Darkrai EX-Sableye. I'm still not sure what the "best" PlasmaBox counter may be right now. But, there are some decks in the current format I think will give it a real tough match.
 
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

Darkrai/Hammers/Lasers, even without Sableye is really strong against plasma Box. Absol is just another nail in Deoxys Coffin. I really think that by Season's end, much of the hype of the deck will be proven to be in vain
 
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

One word. Absol. This guy utilizes the very expensive bench in which thundurus/deoxys is required to make this deck work. With the help of dark claw, HTL, and virbank (which is a lot easier than it sounds) it hits the magic number, 170.
 
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

Just curious, how many dark patch do you guys run, as well as how many lasers you run.? I run 3 of each.
 
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

DSJ said:
Just curious, how many dark patch do you guys run, as well as how many lasers you run.? I run 3 of each.

Run 4 of each for max consistency.
 
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

Brave Vesperia said:
DSJ said:
Just curious, how many dark patch do you guys run, as well as how many lasers you run.? I run 3 of each.

Run 4 of each for max consistency.

Well, the thing is that I run hammers, so space for things such as these can be a little tight... But I do know that for maximum consistency you need 4 of each.
 
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

I've played with Hammers a couple times and I could see cutting a Laser for space.

Cutting a Dark Patch though, I find a little unacceptable, even if you're cutting corners, at least for this deck. The Patch is too important to the flow of the deck.

dmaster out.
 
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

DSJ said:
Just curious, how many dark patch do you guys run, as well as how many lasers you run.? I run 3 of each.

I also only run 3 (I have yet to be in a situation when I could play 4 Dark Patches in a single turn); no need to ever run 4, IMHO, because you can just Junk Hunt these back into your hand (hence, maintaining deck's consistency is not an issue me). One of the great advantages of running this deck.


By the way, now that PF Absol has been released, how do you expect this Poké will change your deck, if at all? Although I was able to beat 2 players running PlasmaBox last weekend with my current list, I want to alter my Poké lineup to include 1-2 Absol for more playtesting:

2 - Absol
1 - Bouffalant (helpful in the past as a counter/threat to EXs, but may be dropped altogether)
3 - Darkrai EX (was previously 4)
1 - Keldeo EX
3 - Sableye (was previously 4)
 
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