Yveltal EX / Darkrai EX
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RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym
Scramble Switch+Max Potion can usually turn a game. Also, it's way too cool to OHKO Landorus EX with prisms and keldeo. Comp.Search is good, but Scramble Switch IS superior, and trust me, I playtested a LOT with both
Scramble Switch+Max Potion can usually turn a game. Also, it's way too cool to OHKO Landorus EX with prisms and keldeo. Comp.Search is good, but Scramble Switch IS superior, and trust me, I playtested a LOT with both
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym
^^^^^ all of this
Reliability, or cool gimmick plays that might help you win one matchup? Computer Search gives you an engine like no other, making the deck extremely consistent. Giving up that consistency so that you might be able to pull off a cool play with SS + Max isn't worth it. If you run Prisms, sure, it's a cool feature, but is it worth sacrificing consistency to add something that's only going to help in one matchup? (not to mention Prisms can't be energy switched which is kind of a big deal in this)
I see Comp Search (or Dowsing Machine which can be used to a similar effect) to be superior in every way in this deck to Scramble. One thing this deck has going for it is being over the top consistent and risking that consistency in the hopes that you can pull off massive combo plays completely isn't worth it. I played this deck at States and literally never whiffed a set up because of Computer Search. I wouldn't be willing to sacrifice that in a million years, even if SS + Max potion does win games if you manage to get it.
Serperior said:
^^^^^ all of this
Reliability, or cool gimmick plays that might help you win one matchup? Computer Search gives you an engine like no other, making the deck extremely consistent. Giving up that consistency so that you might be able to pull off a cool play with SS + Max isn't worth it. If you run Prisms, sure, it's a cool feature, but is it worth sacrificing consistency to add something that's only going to help in one matchup? (not to mention Prisms can't be energy switched which is kind of a big deal in this)
I see Comp Search (or Dowsing Machine which can be used to a similar effect) to be superior in every way in this deck to Scramble. One thing this deck has going for it is being over the top consistent and risking that consistency in the hopes that you can pull off massive combo plays completely isn't worth it. I played this deck at States and literally never whiffed a set up because of Computer Search. I wouldn't be willing to sacrifice that in a million years, even if SS + Max potion does win games if you manage to get it.
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym
If you are gonna make your consistency around a single card, you're gonna have a bad time, probably
If you are gonna make your consistency around a single card, you're gonna have a bad time, probably
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym
It's not just that one card, and I can easily function without it (with 4-of's of Energy Switch and Dark Patch) but Skyla + Comp Search was a pretty common T1 for me and it worked wonders. I didn't rely on it, but it was a godsend it games that I used the Sableye + Comp Search combo.
It's not just that one card, and I can easily function without it (with 4-of's of Energy Switch and Dark Patch) but Skyla + Comp Search was a pretty common T1 for me and it worked wonders. I didn't rely on it, but it was a godsend it games that I used the Sableye + Comp Search combo.
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym
I'm not running skyla, though.
I'm not running skyla, though.
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym
I run scramble switch. Love it. Surprise mewtwo or boufallant can change a game. With max potion.
I run scramble switch. Love it. Surprise mewtwo or boufallant can change a game. With max potion.
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym
I feel like my deck is consistent enough without CS. The combo doesn't really rely on having both SS and max potion, as long as I can move my energy to a almost dead darkrai to a fresh one is good enough for me. I don't like junk hunting late game (for dark patch or whatever) because it usually gives my opponent a good lead, but with SS + Max potion it doesn't matter that often (either way I still prefer attacking). SS is also good just in case your Keldeo is catchered and asleep
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I feel like my deck is consistent enough without CS. The combo doesn't really rely on having both SS and max potion, as long as I can move my energy to a almost dead darkrai to a fresh one is good enough for me. I don't like junk hunting late game (for dark patch or whatever) because it usually gives my opponent a good lead, but with SS + Max potion it doesn't matter that often (either way I still prefer attacking). SS is also good just in case your Keldeo is catchered and asleep
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RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym
I am running Igor Costa's list, and, at this week's regionals only one guy was running skyla and didn't even make top 8
Serperior said:DrunkSpinda said:
I am running Igor Costa's list, and, at this week's regionals only one guy was running skyla and didn't even make top 8
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym
SS dont work for me.. Due to fact i only use 1-0 in any game.
SS dont work for me.. Due to fact i only use 1-0 in any game.
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym
Plasma.dec outspeeds this tenfold, unless you are running Mewtwo EX or Tornadus EX. So it just goes down to that, plus Darkrai has a hard time keeping up with all the EXs they're dropping.
EDIT: If you run Mewtwo Darkrai loses even more as Deoxys easily OHKO's it.
sammy876 said:
Plasma.dec outspeeds this tenfold, unless you are running Mewtwo EX or Tornadus EX. So it just goes down to that, plus Darkrai has a hard time keeping up with all the EXs they're dropping.
EDIT: If you run Mewtwo Darkrai loses even more as Deoxys easily OHKO's it.
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym
Even with Enhanced Hammers, Deoxys/Thundurus/Plasma is a reeeally though match-up for pretty much all current metagame decks
Even with Enhanced Hammers, Deoxys/Thundurus/Plasma is a reeeally though match-up for pretty much all current metagame decks
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym
Be thankful Thundurus+Deoxys have 170 HP because Darkrai eats those for breakfast with the perfect math from a 30 snipe+Night Spear+Dark Claw+Laser. Even with that, I have a feeling it could end up being pretty close just because of the sheer speed of the Plasma Pokemon.
dmaster out.
sammy876 said:
Be thankful Thundurus+Deoxys have 170 HP because Darkrai eats those for breakfast with the perfect math from a 30 snipe+Night Spear+Dark Claw+Laser. Even with that, I have a feeling it could end up being pretty close just because of the sheer speed of the Plasma Pokemon.
dmaster out.
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym
Darkrai loves the math, and has room to tech Enhanced Hammers which can be pretty big in the matchup. The annoying 180 damage from Kyurem can hurt and the ridiculously fast set up of that deck can also be a real problem to deal with, but I don't see Darkrai dying anytime soon.
Darkrai loves the math, and has room to tech Enhanced Hammers which can be pretty big in the matchup. The annoying 180 damage from Kyurem can hurt and the ridiculously fast set up of that deck can also be a real problem to deal with, but I don't see Darkrai dying anytime soon.
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym
Absol is gonna help a lot, but if the opponent plays well, he'll never bench the 5th Poké thus making Absol much less of a threat
Absol is gonna help a lot, but if the opponent plays well, he'll never bench the 5th Poké thus making Absol much less of a threat
RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym
This mean that my play style do not fit use scramble switch. And found that I rather use CS. As I only able full use it 1-2 time 6 round of swiss.
SheNinja said:
This mean that my play style do not fit use scramble switch. And found that I rather use CS. As I only able full use it 1-2 time 6 round of swiss.