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But if you do mill 15 cards off any deck,there is a pretty good chance they cant recover :O,by the time they attach 4 energies to emboar and ko durant,i would reckon atleast 18-21 cards being milled,which added to their draw at turn starting and cards they draw,can deplete more than half of...

RE: PokéBeach's 8th Anniversary I guess PB is the only pokemon site to continue for 8 whole years(crater closed in 7 and half iirc)...so wel...congratz PB and WPM we luv ya :D

well if you can draw p/s or collector/dual ball and two lightning energies and a dce...why not just two dce...?they cannot be recovered yes...but atleast you get 2 hyd's fully charged and that should be enough for spreading 280-560 dmg...

Wouldnt weavile+team rockets trickery+durant be more of a disrupter early game? you could perhaps setup a secondary heavy hitter to finish off late game...

Uhm...if you are gonna attack T2 with hydreigon,why not just attach 2 dce's o.O...really i dont see s/p engine necessary for the first hydreigon,maybe for late game...but even then,a secondary attacker like mandibuzz would be better to pick off hte weakened bench...

If your talking about jirachi devolution bieng tough...it has a pokepower which lets it attach energies to itself from discard...flippy...but yes..it works

Actually it makes it so that you hit all your opponents evolved pokemon with yanmega while placing counters with king...then you devolve them using jirachi for getting multiple ko's...

i also want something like scramble energy back..so that stage 2 decks can atleast make a 'sorta' comeback...it would also lead to very good comeback wins....sure upper was there...but dce>>>>>upper...:(

or the ram/rom with a pluspower in case you dont have plume out..

the idea is pretty good...but the actual arrival of these cards is not certain...but anyway if they do arrive in our next set...then its a very good deck idea...maybe add in smeargle or cleffa as starter...that way we can set up pretty quickly.Also since the decck requires only 2 energy per...

no...we dont want speed decks i agree...we want consistant decks...so please claydol :D

straight ZPS just isnt that good any longer...however the mega variant seems to be widely played and has a fair share of wins...

2/2 is more than enough as long as you play seeker/ssu...also helps bench spacing in case you play other decks...

Just give us claydol back please....

oh..i thought mew was being teched into pluff swarm,as thats what pokevortex was asking...

against donphan arent you much better off just attacking with pluff??for heavens sake it takes -20 without eviolite...

noooo....pb cant shutdown!!!plz :(

uhm...plox was second at worlds 10...o.O

@cardslinger:technically you wont need more than 70....unless snowpoint is in play...but i accept that the sabledonk is gonna be played a lot more than sablock....seeing as donking is easier(and req lesser skill,no offence)....very creative idea though :D

Its ampharos...but how do you get the damage on the opponent? @DNA:like!