(1) New Sword-like Pokemon, Hitotsuki [7/4]

AdamLambert said:
shinysearcher said:
I just noticed something.

Look at the official artwork and zoom it greatly until you can see its eyes (in the sheathed form it looks like if it has two more fake eyes) ...Look hat the shape it sorrounds every "eye" ...it looks like a spiral... or a 6. And there are three of those.

Is this Pokemon #666?? I highly doubt about it, but the sixes and the ghost typing are blowing my mind

That's an interesting thought. I had noticed the 'swirls,' but now that you're bringing up the Pokémon #666, I'd actually like it if it was in fact #666. They do resemble 6's.

However, #666 would be pretty early in the Pokédex, and I see Honedge as being around number #710 or so. I swear if it is #710, give or take 5, I deserve a sticker
 
Pokequaza said:
Raptor9229 said:
Hmm, I may be getting a bit confused here. Although I can totally see Honedge using Shadow Claw (It is a sword, Shadowclaw would make sense in that way too).

It's a sword, not a claw. We'll probably see moves along the lines of Cut, Slash, Night Slash, Fury Cutter.. etc.

I know it is not a claw, it would still kind of make sense.

Actually why can't every ghost type learn shadow claw? You would think a ghost could just form a claw somehow due to their nature.

I still hope that Hexcalibur (My name for the sword by the way) can learn shadow claw.
 
I'm going to name my Honedge -SAO with reference to one of my favourite anime Sword Art Online <3
 
shinysearcher said:
I read this in another forum and wanted to share.

Someone wrote about how both "hitotsu" (Hitotsuki) and "mono" (Monorpale) mean "one" in English (H-one-dge lol). May this be a hint that the pokemon will definitlely evolve into something else? My guesses are that it will evolve into 1. Dual Wield Sword 2. Double-Edged Sword 3. Something that follows the mono- bi- tri- line in any aspect (this third guess came across my mind, werid enough, because of the pattern in the lower section of the sheath)

What do you guys think?

I think it's a coincidence. The English name being a play on honour or hone + edge. The ''one'' in its French and Japanese name refer to ''one'' as in ''the one sword'', indicating its uniqueness among other swords, as many myths and legends talk about this one sword that overpowers all other swords. Just like the German name Gramokles refers to two legendary swords; Gram and the Damoklesschwert (and Vorpale for its French name as well).

I might be wrong, but it seems an unique Pokémon that doesn't evolve. Time will tell.
 
I don't like it, but the design has more to it than those who hate it want to admit, it's really clever.

-First, it doesn't look like a monster because it isn't one, it's a regular sword, but haunted, so, no face, no teeth, no grin; just a sword and a freaky glowing eye (don't forget that cofagrigus doesn't has its arms out all the time, it can look like a regular sarcophagus, too).

-Second: "the sword it's too plain", and I'm paraphrasing here. Design is all about the contrasts: dark/light, big/small, simple/complicated, and pokemon gets that as very few ever got *digimon!*. eh? who said that? not me, of course. whew, that was close.
Anyway, look at the scabbard, a really elaborate scabbard, lots of lines, a hidden symbol, the tip divides into three, and has perforations on the top.
Then look at the sword, it's really simple; a regular, double edged blade, a very simple handguard and hilt, a cloth that it's a cloth and a hand (not one or the other. It can be easily read as both at the same time) and the only thing out of place is the eye, which looks like a gemstone. Then you put them together, and the perforations in the scabbard make sense now, using the necessary lines in the blade to show an angry face, while the "real" eye gets lost in the background.

As I said, I don't like it, but I recognize good design when I see it. Besides, the worst 6 gen pokemon so far it's litleo. That thing, manticore or not, looks just dumb.
 
Sadly, we have an average design which could be forgettable pretty soon.

Who is ever going to forget the only pokemon to be a flying haunted sword, unless we eventually somehow get a dozen other totally unrelated sword pokemon?
 
Is the sword possessed by a dead pokemon or by a person? I don't really like having an object that is possessed by a person be classified as a pokemon. Banette at least was a doll that magically came to life. But if it's a person in that sword I don't see the justification to call it a pokemon. I had a big dislike of Yamask's back story simply because I can't see how a PERSON'S SOUL is considered a pokemon.
 
Ohman177 said:
Is the sword possessed by a dead pokemon or by a person? I don't really like having an object that is possessed by a person be classified as a pokemon. Banette at least was a doll that magically came to life. But if it's a person in that sword I don't see the justification to call it a pokemon. I had a big dislike of Yamask's back story simply because I can't see how a PERSON'S SOUL is considered a pokemon.

Yamask is a soul bound to his petrified face and Cofagrigus eats people alive, its clearly showing that its not a human soul anymore its evolved into a feral beast.
 
Ohman177 said:
Is the sword possessed by a dead pokemon or by a person? I don't really like having an object that is possessed by a person be classified as a pokemon. Banette at least was a doll that magically came to life. But if it's a person in that sword I don't see the justification to call it a pokemon. I had a big dislike of Yamask's back story simply because I can't see how a PERSON'S SOUL is considered a pokemon.

What are your credentials that allow you to determine what constitutes a Pokémon? game freak can make anything they like into a Pokémon
On topic: I'm interested to see whether honedge unsheathes during battle or comes out unsheathed
 
leecario said:
Ohman177 said:
Is the sword possessed by a dead pokemon or by a person? I don't really like having an object that is possessed by a person be classified as a pokemon. Banette at least was a doll that magically came to life. But if it's a person in that sword I don't see the justification to call it a pokemon. I had a big dislike of Yamask's back story simply because I can't see how a PERSON'S SOUL is considered a pokemon.

What are your credentials that allow you to determine what constitutes a Pokémon? game freak can make anything they like into a Pokémon
On topic: I'm interested to see whether honedge unsheathes during battle or comes out unsheathed

Well I thought pokemon were their version of animals. How can a human's soul inhabiting an object be a pokemon? Specifically, how can they catch it? Or breed it? I'm real iffy on possessed "pokemon" when they are possessed by a human.


ECHOxLegend said:
Ohman177 said:
Is the sword possessed by a dead pokemon or by a person? I don't really like having an object that is possessed by a person be classified as a pokemon. Banette at least was a doll that magically came to life. But if it's a person in that sword I don't see the justification to call it a pokemon. I had a big dislike of Yamask's back story simply because I can't see how a PERSON'S SOUL is considered a pokemon.

Yamask is a soul bound to his petrified face and Cofagrigus eats people alive, its clearly showing that its not a human soul anymore its evolved into a feral beast.

It was still a person... Just seems kinda strange to consider yamask a pokemon. But GF will be GF so no point debating it I guess. But back to my question, is it a human's soul or a pokemon's soul in Honedge?
 
Ohman177 said:
It was still a person... Just seems kinda strange to consider yamask a pokemon. But GF will be GF so no point debating it I guess. But back to my question, is it a human's soul or a pokemon's soul in Honedge?

Your question will remain unanswered, as the description is all we have, and it doesn't state whether it was a human or a Pokémon.
 
Pokequaza said:
Ohman177 said:
It was still a person... Just seems kinda strange to consider yamask a pokemon. But GF will be GF so no point debating it I guess. But back to my question, is it a human's soul or a pokemon's soul in Honedge?

Your question will remain unanswered, as the description is all we have, and it doesn't state whether it was a human or a Pokémon.

Ok good enough.
 
shinysearcher said:
I read this in another forum and wanted to share.

Someone wrote about how both "hitotsu" (Hitotsuki) and "mono" (Monorpale) mean "one" in English (H-one-dge lol). May this be a hint that the pokemon will definitlely evolve into something else? My guesses are that it will evolve into 1. Dual Wield Sword 2. Double-Edged Sword 3. Something that follows the mono- bi- tri- line in any aspect (this third guess came across my mind, werid enough, because of the pattern in the lower section of the sheath)

What do you guys think?

It could be part of a trio? Kind of like the legendary birds with numbers in their names.
 
Ohman177 said:
leecario said:
What are your credentials that allow you to determine what constitutes a Pokémon? game freak can make anything they like into a Pokémon
On topic: I'm interested to see whether honedge unsheathes during battle or comes out unsheathed

Well I thought pokemon were their version of animals. How can a human's soul inhabiting an object be a pokemon? Specifically, how can they catch it? Or breed it? I'm real iffy on possessed "pokemon" when they are possessed by a human.

Pokemon are all descended from Mew, the biological ancestor of all Pokemon. Mew is a Pokemon, not an animal, in the world that Pokemon exist in. We've seen real-world animals in the anime before, proving that there are both animal species and Pokemon in that world, meaning they are most likely unrelated to each other.

Another big factor is that humans (homo sapiens) evolved from a species of animal, so having humans in a show usually there had to have been real-world animals for humans to exist.

The main difference between the real world and the Pokemon world is Pokemon. Pokemon probably outnumber animals in the billions since animals don't have elemental powers to fight against attackers like Pokemon do.
 
Not liking this pokemon at all. The Sheath's light animation looks great, but the pokemon itself is literally a floating sword with an eye and a hand. Hate on me all you want, this is my opinion.
 
AtmosphericThunder said:
Ohman177 said:
Well I thought pokemon were their version of animals. How can a human's soul inhabiting an object be a pokemon? Specifically, how can they catch it? Or breed it? I'm real iffy on possessed "pokemon" when they are possessed by a human.

Pokemon are all descended from Mew, the biological ancestor of all Pokemon. Mew is a Pokemon, not an animal, in the world that Pokemon exist in. We've seen real-world animals in the anime before, proving that there are both animal species and Pokemon in that world, meaning they are most likely unrelated to each other.

Another big factor is that humans (homo sapiens) evolved from a species of animal, so having humans in a show usually there had to have been real-world animals for humans to exist.

The main difference between the real world and the Pokemon world is Pokemon. Pokemon probably outnumber animals in the billions since animals don't have elemental powers to fight against attackers like Pokemon do.
What you did was just back up my point. Thanks. You say humans evolved from animals which are apparently different from pokemon in their world. that would make humans different from pokemon which still wouldnt explain how a human's soul can be a pokemon.
 
Ohman177 said:
AtmosphericThunder said:
Pokemon are all descended from Mew, the biological ancestor of all Pokemon. Mew is a Pokemon, not an animal, in the world that Pokemon exist in. We've seen real-world animals in the anime before, proving that there are both animal species and Pokemon in that world, meaning they are most likely unrelated to each other.

Another big factor is that humans (homo sapiens) evolved from a species of animal, so having humans in a show usually there had to have been real-world animals for humans to exist.

The main difference between the real world and the Pokemon world is Pokemon. Pokemon probably outnumber animals in the billions since animals don't have elemental powers to fight against attackers like Pokemon do.
What you did was just back up my point. Thanks. You say humans evolved from animals which are apparently different from pokemon in their world. that would make humans different from pokemon which still wouldnt explain how a human's soul can be a pokemon.

Just use your imagination.

As far as humans are concerned, we don't know if we even have "souls", so the idea that we could possess an object after death is unimaginable in itself, so I don't think it's supposed to make much sense in the first place.

I was simply stating what we know about the Pokemon world and its creatures, and how Pokemon and animals are separate categories.
 
AtmosphericThunder said:
Ohman177 said:
What you did was just back up my point. Thanks. You say humans evolved from animals which are apparently different from pokemon in their world. that would make humans different from pokemon which still wouldnt explain how a human's soul can be a pokemon.

Just use your imagination.

As far as humans are concerned, we don't know if we even have "souls", so the idea that we could possess an object after death is unimaginable in itself, so I don't think it's supposed to make much sense in the first place.

I was simply stating what we know about the Pokemon world and its creatures, and how Pokemon and animals are separate categories.

Ok then. Anyway can you give me an example of seeing an animal in pokemon world? I remember seeing stuff like fishes and birds in digimon and that confused the heck out of me as a little kid.
 
Ohman177 said:
AtmosphericThunder said:
Just use your imagination.

As far as humans are concerned, we don't know if we even have "souls", so the idea that we could possess an object after death is unimaginable in itself, so I don't think it's supposed to make much sense in the first place.

I was simply stating what we know about the Pokemon world and its creatures, and how Pokemon and animals are separate categories.

Ok then. Anyway can you give me an example of seeing an animal in pokemon world? I remember seeing stuff like fishes and birds in digimon and that confused the heck out of me as a little kid.

Well in Digimon, Digimon are part of the Digital World, which is a totally separate world from the human world in that series (that's why they are called Digital Monsters). To get to the Digital World, you usually have to use an internet connection and a computer, which is how humans travel to and from the Digital World. Just look up the Digimon wiki if you want to find out more or clear up any confusion you have.


Anyways, here are some examples of real animals in the Pokemon series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep5Xo7nTnR8
 
by the Digimon logic Pokemon are Pocket Monsters, so anything that can be caught in a pokeball is a pokemon, whethers its human, animal or anything else. You can catch God so I think any problems with pokemon logic should be let go by now.
 
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