(1) Nintendo Follow-Up [9/21]

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@WPM The one thing about this that makes me angry is that only certain sites had to remove the images. That seems really unfair. If a certain handful needs to remove them, they all should have to.

I also hate how he "answered" your question about when you'd be allowed to post the sprites. I won't jumble my brain by trying to understand all the legal lingo, but to me it sounds like it'll never be completely okay for them to be posted here even after the games are released, because they've already been released legally to the public in Japan and those are the games the sprites were taken from.

I guess it's like you said on the front page, you'll just have to take a wild guess as to when you can post them and wait to get another letter to see if you were right or not.
 
All of this is nonsensical to me. Nintendo's poor attitude is actually keeping me from not wanting to play these. I am not going to purchase a game I know little about and run the risk of loathing it. It's sites like Pokebeach that give us the details so we'd know if we would WANT to play the game. Nintendo's desire for fan deprivation is mind-boggling. I'm quite frustrated by Nintendo's actions.
 
common practice it says? Kinda like i'd be nice for me to hold this door open for you but if i dont? OH well. Like that huh? lol
 
"However, the use of Nintendo's unpublished copyrighted materials or other proprietary information that Nintendo has not authorized for public release is not permitted"
... but the games has just been released? What the...?
Nintendo! Those pics has been taken from the JAPANESE game, NOT american! And the japanese games HAVE been released now, so it shouldn't be in any way that we're breaking the copyright rule!

Also... if any fans would avoid spoilers, then they wouldn't be on fansites as this one... and Pokebeach (and others) have ALWAYS been leaking the newest games stuff and you, Nintendo, hasn't told us to stop before, so why is it a big deal now? :b
 
Here's a wild idea. Back when the original AACS Key was released, people starting using the key in shirts, kitten posters and whatnot.

If were were to apply that today, you could take a picture of an NDS sitting right near a cat. Make the picture high quality enough and people can zoom into the image. You'd provide a thumbnail of the NDS Screen, but a link to the full picture. It's crazy enough it might work =P
 
Public knowledge CANNOT be hidden in any way, shape, or form. Once something becomes public knowledge it is stuck as public knowledge, so Nintendo has no case with this one. It's like putting out a news broadcast and then retracting everything said in that news broadcast.
 
@Mucrush A judge may agree with on it being considered published in America, but can WPM afford the gamble?
 
@omahanime: When we got C&D'd, their demands were:
We stop working on the game (We did)
We stop redistributing the game (We *sorta* did)
We hand them our domain. We didn't. We told them they could go screw themselves (In kinder words), and they left us alone.
 
omegaGogeta said:
Public knowledge CANNOT be hidden in any way, shape, or form. Once something becomes public knowledge it is stuck as public knowledge, so Nintendo has no case with this one. It's like putting out a news broadcast and then retracting everything said in that news broadcast.
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Well NoA is demanding for removal of pics, not exactly demanding that people erase the very memories of said media from their mind... NoA does have a case in terms of allowance (or disallowance) for use of their pics.
 
That lawyer didn't even told us if we could ever get to post those sprites/pics again... he only told us that our leak wasn't okay to leak because of the "copyright" :b

EDIT: Btw. it is actually okay for you, WPM, to keep the Zekrom and Reshiram pics on, because Pokemon.com showed us THEMSELF! :b
 
@XieRH And what I'm saying is that the pics are already public knowledge. They have been seen so they are public knowledge. The screens where the pics are taken from are pretty much public knowledge. So there really is no case.
 
They are public knowledge in Japan... not in the US...
Like I said before... it's all gonna come down to the judge's and jury's interpretation (a gamble) ~_~...
I hope WPM doesn't get in trouble... we should send some support mails o.o
 
@omegaGogeta

Thats like saying a pirated movie can be allowed to be circulated if people already know what the movie is about, etc.

There is a difference between the public knowledge and the intellectual property. When the property owner says cease and desist, he's not going to care if the cat's already out of the bag.
 
Smelly_Snake@ but its not our fault that the JAPANESE is leaking it for us... and also, Nintendo can't force us to avoid the games in Japanese... :b
 
Would it be possible for WPM to get permission from Nintendo of Japan to use images from their games, or would it not matter so long as we're in the States?
 
@XieRH You just took something and turned it completely in the opposite direction. There is nothing even remotely similar between the two. It's not like illegally COPYING something. And I doubt I'll be able to say this without you turning it into something completely different. You are taking pictures of a game you own to show more people what it's like therefore promoting the company through a fan-base.
 
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