(1) Official Japanese Pokemon Website Also Posts About the January 8th Announcement [1/4]
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Blui129 said:
EA was cool when their logo was a square, cirlce, and triangle.
Wait a minute.
Pokemon Square and Circle version
Pokemon Triangle version
Mudkip-EX said:
Third version: Pokemon: Trigonometry version.
I can imagine it now.
"??? used tackle".
"What is 33 multiplied by 28?"
Gets wrong answer
"Attack does nothing".
On the subject of education and all,
Pokemon: Multiple Choice version
Pokemon: Long Answer version
Then top it off with Pokemon Calculus Version, where the evil Team Public School tries to enslave the world with Math Exams. It's genius (until all the kids in high school abandon pokemon forever... :c )
The Pikachu Mafia said:
You must learn you long division. YOU MUST.
Oh God please no I hated math back in high school let's leave that calculus stuff out of Pokemon hahaha
On a more serious note, what are the chances of this announcement that Pokémon is going fully online, and becoming a MMORPG? Pokémon is moving to iOS? Anything else, for that matter? It seems like most of us, including myself, as assuming that this announcement has to be either Generation VI or R/S remakes. Couldn't it be something totally different? I could be overlooking something, so let me know.
Hints as to why Ruby and Sapphire, (maybe even Emerald) has a high chance of being remade.Bolt the Cat said:
1. Dive returning as an HM in BW, B2W2
2. The underwater temple is a hint. Just like the Sealed Chamber in RSE.
3. The Hoenn starts are unobtainable in Gen 5, as so as all the others besides the Unova ones, (without bringing over from Gen 4).
4. Possible former Team Magma and Team Aqua Grunts in the Iccirus City house.
5. Groudon and Kyogre are unobtainable in Gen 5.(not including the Japanese event or bringing over from Gen 4).
6.Hoenn the only region not playable on the DS.
7.Hoenn needs a graphic update.
8. Rayquaza also unobtainable in Gen 5(not including bringing over from Gen 4, or the Nobunga's Rayquaza, because it was never distributed outside Japan).
9. Jirachi is unobtainable in Gen 5.(again, without bringing over from Gen 4).
10.Deoxys?(not including Masuda's Deoxys, at least not until it's announced for America).
11. Guy in the Dessert Resort talking about the Go-Goggles.
12. When you get Battle Points at PWT, you hear a little tune that's similar to Pokemon Emerald.
13. B2W2's Pokedex having a lot of Pokemon that were in the Hoenn Pokedex.
14. In the first Diamond & Pearl special, Dawn decides to travel to Hoenn to compete in Pokémon Contests there, just like May traveled to Johto for the same reason after the end of the Advanced Generation series.
15.In Zoroark: Master of Illusions, the flags promoting the Pokémon Baccer World Cup that are all over the town (and thus, everywhere in the movie) has a Poké Ball on the flag. One section is red and the other is blue, and in the middle, there's a green button.
16.In the Generation II remakes, HeartGold and SoulSilver, in the Cerulean Cave, there are large emerald formations, and, if one goes deeper into the cave, a large emerald maze
17. In HGSS, Steven Stone, the Champion of the Hoenn Region, makes an appearance, and gives you a choice of a Hoenn Region Starter Pokémon.
18. During the Enigma Stone event in HGSS, after you catch Latios/Latias, Steven says he won't ask your name, and that "Our fun will have to wait for the right time" This is contradicted by PWT, but you never speak to him outside PWT, where in a RSE remake, he would know your name and he would appear throughout the game.
19. If you talk to one of the people in the Celadon Mansion, they will say "We are remaking an old game, but this is quite a challenge. Old fans would not want usw to mess with their good memories...". Some people I've say they're actually talking about HGSS. I believe it's a potential Ruby/Sapphire remake.
20. The Root and Claw Fossils are on display in the Pewter City Museum of Science.
21. Hoenn Sound, the sound of Route 101, can be played on the Pokégear, and attracts Hoenn Pokémon to the player.
22. Bill mentions Lanette (who, in turn, mentioned him in Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald), and the Hoenn Region.
23. Black and White's lack of connectivity to Generation III serves as a sign in itself.
24. In Black and White, there are multiple hints, with several people make references to Hoenn. In Undella Town, several people who only visit during the summer are said to come from Hoenn. The The Riches are also very similar to the Winstrate Family from Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald.
25. The Pokémon Basculin which (while also looking like a Rabuta Berry, a Generation III introduced Berry), they come in two varieties, green with red stripes, and green with blue stripes, the colors on Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald.
26. While not being found in game (to my knowledge) data for the Fluffy Tail, Shoal Shell exists in Black and White.
27. Relic Castle resembles the Mirage Tower.
28. Also, there are similarties between the Surfing parts of Route 18 in Unova (with the currents and small shallow waters) that resemble area of open ocean in Hoenn.
29. An Armaldo fossil is shown in the Nacrene City Pokémon Gym.
30. The Safari Ball has a catching animation programmed into Black and White despite not being legitimately able to be used, as there is no Safari Zone. Hoenn however, does have a Safari Zone.
31. Upon defeat, Game Freak Morimoto references Steven's self-introduction in his Ruby and Sapphire Trainer's Eyes profile (Japanese version only).
32. The deserts in the Unova and Hoenn regions both use deep sand tile. They are also located on or near Routes that lead to the fourth Gym. In the Desert Resort, the Go-Goggles are even mentioned by a traveler from Hoenn. Special Pokémon (the Anorith Fossil and the Lilileep Fossil in Hoenn and five Darmanitan in Zen Mode in Unova) can be found in each desert.
33. In R/S/E, your rival (one of the rivals anyway, as Wally also counts as a rival) gives you the HM02, Fly. In BW, one of your rivals ALSO gives you the HM02, Fly.
34. In BW2, some of the newer music has a distinctly Hoenn feel, like at the PWT.
35. Hoenn Gym Leaders and Champions return in BW2, at the PW2, and with new sprites to match the new systems. These can easily be updated into a Hoenn remake.
36. The Gym Leader and Champion Battle Themes for Hoenn have been remixed into the Black and White 2 Soundtrack for the PWT.
37. An employee at the Devon Corporation states that he wants to create a machine that can visually reproduce the dreams of Pokémon. Dream Mist, which is produced by Munna of Generation V, can achieve this.
38. The battery in Emerald (I'm not so sure about Ruby and Sapphire, they seem to be working), can run dry, making all time based events (such as the evolution of Eevee, Berry growing, and being able to reach Mirage Island), impossible. If Generation III remakes do appear. Also, there are some TMs that have been retained (I did not notice this, I read it somewhere). Rock Tomb (Roxanne), Bulk Up (Brawly), Overheat (Flannery), Facade (Norman), Aerial Ace (Winona), and Calm Mind (Tate and Liza). Watson and Wallace do not have their original TMs retained, so it is likely they will be replaced with Generation V TMs. What I am reading suggests Wild Bolt and Scald respectively
39.Junichi Masuda mentioned "wanting to do something good" with the Hoenn Region in his blog on Twitter, implying impending remakes.
40. There are also multiple Pokémon, Treecko, Grovyle, Sceptile, Torchic, Combusken, Blaziken, Mudkip, Marshtomp, Swampert, Zigzagoon, Linoone, Nincada, Ninjask, Shedinja, Makuhita, Hariyama, Nosepass, Skitty, Delcatty, Meditite, Medicham, Electrike, Manectric, Gulpin, Swalot, Numel, Camerupt, Torkoal, Spoink, Grumpig, Spinda, Cacnea, Cacturne, Castform, Kecleon, Duskull, Dusclops, Snorunt, Glalie, Regirock, Regice, Registeel, Latias, Latios, Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza, which aren't able to be found in Black and White. These are all found in the Hoenn Pokédex. However, only a small amount of these are now catchable in B2W2.
People still say they don't hint to remakes, but I do and I know someone else is going to agree. But go ahead, keep making up excuses to say I'm wrong. Because some people just have to be right. With all this evidence, a remake of Hoenn is sure to happen.
HeatRotomFTW97 said:
And how many ideas besides the 3DS, Genesect already being distributed, Game Freak saying they want to evolve the world of Pokemon, and the possible stopping support of the DS do you guys have? Shouldn't do critcism at all. Thank you. Enough said.
NachoMan said:
I must say, your evidence makes it sound compelling. These type of hints were the same kinds used to predict HGSS. I think your points are valid. I agree that a Hoenn remake is sure to happen, and always have, but just not now due to hardware situations. We'll all see in 24 hours though.
EDIT: What evidence do we have for Generation VI. Well, among others things that have been mentioned here...
http://pokebeach.com/2012/11/6th-generation-hints-coming-in-december-question
HeatRotomFTW97 said:
Game Freak seems to not like computers or home consoles because there's less portability and consequently, social interaction, which is a key aspect of the franchise. iOS might be possible, though.
I highly doubt it's not something related to 6th gen, the fact that they said they're "evolving" the series implies that whatever's coming next will be something drastically different from what we've seen before, and drastic changes to the formula usually only take place at the start of a new generation. To what extent the series will be changed is up for debate, however.
Before I was for R/S remakes, because all of the few hints that I saw seemed to point toward that and it seemed like the right time. The main example being the Magma/Aqua members in the house. Admittedly some of the points posted above seem a little weak or explainable but I can agree with a few.
But then, with this whole eevee thing and the fact that they seem to make this announcement sound bigger and bigger every day, I started to think it might really be gen 6 and the first Pokemon revealed will be eevees new eeveelution. There does seem to be more legit evidence to back up gen 6 than there is for RS, it all depends on what one person would define "evidence" as I suppose.
One things for sure though, I am forever standing by the idea that RS will definitely have their remakes right after gen 6 if they don't now. I just don't think that GameFreak is too enthusiastic to release the remakes just yet, considering gen 3 was Pokemons biggest downfall. I don't think they would put up this much hype and effort to get the news out if they were gen 3 remakes, I don't remember it happening this much for HGSS. I can also stand by the idea that RS is being worked on right now as we speak for future release later on.
Oh well, if this does turn out to be RS in the end, I'll be kicking myself later for switching sides. But as I always say, I will be more than happy with the announcement no matter which one it is. (Unless it's going to be a spinoff or something. Then I'll be pissed. But won't we all?)
But then, with this whole eevee thing and the fact that they seem to make this announcement sound bigger and bigger every day, I started to think it might really be gen 6 and the first Pokemon revealed will be eevees new eeveelution. There does seem to be more legit evidence to back up gen 6 than there is for RS, it all depends on what one person would define "evidence" as I suppose.
One things for sure though, I am forever standing by the idea that RS will definitely have their remakes right after gen 6 if they don't now. I just don't think that GameFreak is too enthusiastic to release the remakes just yet, considering gen 3 was Pokemons biggest downfall. I don't think they would put up this much hype and effort to get the news out if they were gen 3 remakes, I don't remember it happening this much for HGSS. I can also stand by the idea that RS is being worked on right now as we speak for future release later on.
Oh well, if this does turn out to be RS in the end, I'll be kicking myself later for switching sides.
But as I always say, I will be more than happy with the announcement no matter which one it is. (Unless it's going to be a spinoff or something. Then I'll be pissed. But won't we all?)
Giving all those hints for the remakes doesn't mean they will happen now. I think it's safe to say nobody here disagrees they'll happen. It's just due to several circumstances (like handheld issue, latest real hints - as "pokémon evolving" and new eeveelution implied) they're rather unlikely to be Nintendo/GF's next big move.
OMG only one more day till the big announcement.
I can't see the where the anime will go if they just announce a ruby/sapphire remake.
I think it's generation 6. I've read rumours of there being 3 games instead of 2 and the supposed 'digital' type lol, (I hope its not true).
R/S remakes will come eventually but not now, maybe 2014/15
I think it's generation 6. I've read rumours of there being 3 games instead of 2 and the supposed 'digital' type lol, (I hope its not true).
R/S remakes will come eventually but not now, maybe 2014/15
NachoMan said:
This makes absolutely no sense. A hint to what? Either way, Abyssal Ruins weren't designed with Hoenn in mind, the text in the ruins references some sort of king and is related to Unova's legend of the two brothers. It has nothing to do with Hoenn.
NachoMan said:
So? Nearly every past gen starter and legendary is unobtainable through conventional means in 5th gen, that doesn't mean anything. The only ones that are are the ones in BW2, some of which are, surprise, surprise, 3rd gen Pokemon. At any rate, most of the 3rd gen Pokemon are already available in BW1, BW2, or the DW, so there's no need for it right now for Pokedex completion.
NachoMan said:
That was a continuity nod that happened to fit right in with BW's theme of opposing viewpoints, that doesn't mean anything.
NachoMan said:
So what, you think that every region should be on every handheld generation? That's an absolutely ridiculous notion. That would get very old, very fast.
NachoMan said:
No, no it doesn't. Graphically, 3rd, 4th, and 5th gen are all very similar thanks to 5th gen being held back on the DS.
NachoMan said:
That piece of evidence disproves RS remakes instead of supporting it. The more Hoenn Pokemon that are catchable in other games, the less reason there is for remakes.
NachoMan said:
Okay, now you're just grasping at straws. Color arrangements aren't significant enough, red, green, and blue coloring is used for things not related to RSE, you know. Same with the Emeralds in Cerulean Cave, it has nothing to do with Hoenn.
NachoMan said:
Steven's appearance in HGSS was so you could catch a handful of Hoenn Pokemon that were previously inaccessible in 4th gen.
NachoMan said:
They are quite obviously referring to HGSS, there's no reason to suggest they're making another remake so soon after releasing the remake you're already playing.
NachoMan said:
Again, that was so you could catch 3rd gen Pokemon in 4th gen.
NachoMan said:
There's only so many types of environments they can use.
NachoMan said:
There's a Dragonite fossil, too, and that has nothing to do with BW or RSE.
NachoMan said:
They have nothing to do with each other.
NachoMan said:
Every Gym Leader ever created (except Koga) is in the PWT. And the only reason the sprites were updated was because they weren't on the DS.
NachoMan said:
Again, every other region got remixes as well, so this proves nothing.
NachoMan said:
Coincidence. The TM list is conserved as much as possible, that's why most of those TMs still exist. And the fact that some of them actually have been replaced throws this point out the window anyway, if this was intentional, they'd be more consistent than having 6 stay and 2 go.
NachoMan said:
Nearly all of those are catchable in some way in 5th gen, either through BW2, the DW, or Dream Radar. Only a handful of those are unavailable through conventional means in 5th gen, and it wouldn't be worth it to remake the game to make 10 Pokemon available in a generation which is close to ending anyway.
NachoMan said:
Those are all valid points, though. Issues like hardware, marketing, and Pokemon distribution are very important ones and can't be pushed aside. And are you seriously suggesting that that statement about "evolving the world of Pokemon", the one that started this whole debate in the first place, isn't significant? Please. That's more concrete evidence than anything you've stated, most of which is minor continuity nods or absurd coincidences. I'm sorry, but nothing you've said strongly supports your point or refutes mine.
Shining Dragon said:
Why would they remake it for the DS family when the DS family is dead? Why not just wait and do it for the 3DS after Gen VI, which would make it the most graphically updated remake as opposed to putting it in the same boat as HGSS right out of the gate? Are you also expecting them to remake DPPt next gen? That's a bit of a stretch.