(1) Rumor: New Pokemon Greninja, Hawlucha, and Binacle Revealed? [9/29]

RE: (1) Rumor: New Pokemon Greninja, Hawklucha, and Binacle Revealed? [9/29]

suppy said:
Firemaker said:
I don't know. Hawlucha's screen has the X and Return buttons meaning you can return to the main pokedex screen.

those buttons might be just out of the shot, or my prediciton might be flipped. Either way I think its a pretty sound explanation to why the UI is different.
Looking up photos of previous pokedex interfaces
It doesn't seem likely that the UI is correct.

Perhaps Hawlucha is real and using the real in-pokemon UI. But Binacle can't be.
Both photos are taken on the bottom touchscreen. This is so you are able to touch buttons and stuff. However, navigation would be a pain if there was no touch interface for scrolling and selecting Pokemon. If they were to do a full screen for the Pokemon model, they'd use the top screen instead.
 
RE: (1) Rumor: New Pokemon Greninja, Hawklucha, and Binacle Revealed? [9/29]

Momaster12 said:
Hawlucha looks fine, but why are people hating on Greninja so much? It looks pretty cool, and you can see only half of it so you have no idea how the whole thing looks. The only problem with Greninja is the name, it just sounds fake and not how Frogadier's name is set up (Frog and Grenadier). All I got from Greninja is ninja of course.

I wonder how you missed the "Grenadier" part in Greninja...
 
RE: (1) Rumor: New Pokemon Greninja, Hawklucha, and Binacle Revealed? [9/29]

If these are to be believed as real; I really like them! Especially Hawlucha! That design is genius! Greninja is an interesting take - especially his scarf-like tongue design. I also like the barnacle Pokemon. Never would have thought of that.
 
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I honestly don't think Greninja's real. It has no relation to Froakie or Frogadier whatsoever. When the it was posted, I first looked at the picturess before reading the text and I wouldn't have known it was a Froakie evolution if WPM hadn't said so. What about it looks like Froakie other than the color and frog base? It doesn't follow the previous expanding dark blue pattern and it's name doesn't fit. Both Froakie and Frodadier hat "frog" and a rank (Rookie, grenadier). Now it's a french frog ninja? I don't get it. The tongue doesn't make sense, both pre-evo's sugimori art had closed mouths. Nothing to do with tongue. The screenshot looks real, but the Pokemon doesn't. I can't say I'm near believing this one. Compare all three evo's. Then you'll understand why this doesn't make sense. Never has a started lost it's trademark like this. The bubble foam is Froakie's fire-tipped tail, or plant on it's head, or it's shell blade. It can be altered, but not completely trashed. Fenniken has the red ear tufts and Chespin has the spiky shell. The bubble foam's in the Pokedex entry. What more do you need to know it's necessary for the line??
 
RE: (1) Rumor: New Pokemon Greninja, Hawklucha, and Binacle Revealed? [9/29]

After reading over the Rumors and Speculation (and now apparently Spoilers) thread, and all of the hectic activity that went on in it earlier (where everything was revealed,) there were some people that seemed to have some evidence or belief that the Froakie evolution is a fake... something about proof of digital editing and the fact that it was revealed by a leaker different from the one that showed Hawlucha and Binacle. Honestly I'd be okay with those two existing if it meant Greninja was a fake... o-o
I'm not saying that there is proof that Greninja is a fake. Do not quote me on that. And I read the whole thread and I didn't see anything worthwhile about the others being fake, so I'm not just biased against Greninja.
Anyway here are the posts I read that you can look at and determine for yourself. Sorry, they're a bit out of order:

Ohman177 said:
1. The photo of froakie's final is completely unrelated to rdecargh's photos and info.
2. It is unknown whether or not the Hawlucha photo that came with the froakie final photo is the same as rdecargh's Hawlucha/belongs to him or if it belongs to the person who posted the froakie final. The only clue we have is that both the first Hawlucha and the Froakie final are both shown in the summary area.
3. The first Hawlucha does seem to, however, have a different color torso from rdecargh's. This could either be due to lighting/faking or because of gender differences. The second reason is further boosted by the fact that the first Hawlucha is Male while rdecargh claims to have had a female. We don't have any proof of that claim though.

Mugi said:
Galaco. said:
Hawklucha is ok, I mean, nothing special, but wow, Froakie's final evo is a disaster, the years/levels lol were not kind.

Don't worry, according to this picture, Froakie's final evo will be fake.
Hawlucha looks pretty real, so does the other one. The only thing what makes me believe, that the worm-shaped thingy is fake, is that it's a Sprite and not a 3D-Model.

Mugi said:
Cinesra said:
What is that picture supposed to be?

Look it up: http://fotoforensics.com/tutorial-ela.php

I can't explain it pretty good, sry. :/

illmtu said:
Mugi said:
Look it up: http://fotoforensics.com/tutorial-ela.php

I can't explain it pretty good, sry. :/

The two pictures on the right are from a different source to that on the left. Someone needs to compare the 'Photo Forensics' of Greninja to those of the first two Hawlucha screenshots that came from 4chan with the 'cameroid.com' logo in the corner.

Ohman177 said:
Another reminder:
The Greninja, Hawlucha and its moves, and Hawlucha in battle photos are all from an unknown place.
We only know that rdecargh posted the pictures of Binacle, Hawlucha with a blue background, overworld with stone pillars, and Quilladin Vs. Emolga.

Ohman177 said:
Ghoster23 said:
Upon testing the images first posted this is what appeared:

analysis.php

Froakie's evo

analysis.php

Hawlucha's summary

http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=f6c7d80de761c6a8c4b2f85846576165a14b2b96.236120&fmt=ela&size=600
Hawlucha

So that I don't post more images and as I don't know how to use the spoiler here you can find the original's that I used: http://*report me because I'm an advertiser*/2013/09/29/rumor-images-show-final-froakie-evolution-new-pokemon/

They're the first 3 from right to left, top to bottom.
So basically those 3 with the unknown source (NOT rdecargh) are confirmed fake?
 
RE: (1) Rumor: New Pokemon Greninja, Hawklucha, and Binacle Revealed? [9/29]

Just found this. Weird that it says 0 views, and makes me think it is probably fake. What do you guys think?

http://imgur.com/a/wyZcd
 
RE: (1) Rumor: New Pokemon Greninja, Hawklucha, and Binacle Revealed? [9/29]

Looks pretty fake to me.
 
RE: (1) Rumor: New Pokemon Greninja, Hawklucha, and Binacle Revealed? [9/29]

I actually really like Greninja(not a big fan of the name though). Yeah the tongue is an interesting design choice, but honestly, I can see GF designing something like that. If it is real, I would want to see the official artwork and it's in-game animation before I make my full opinion.

I don't know what to think of the barnaclemon yet and Hawlucha looks pretty cool.
 
RE: (1) Rumor: New Pokemon Greninja, Hawklucha, and Binacle Revealed? [9/29]

bogaboy said:
Just found this. Weird that it says 0 views, and makes me think it is probably fake. What do you guys think?

http://imgur.com/a/wyZcd

looks super fake.
 
RE: (1) Rumor: New Pokemon Greninja, Hawklucha, and Binacle Revealed? [9/29]

joshadshade125 said:
bogaboy said:
Just found this. Weird that it says 0 views, and makes me think it is probably fake. What do you guys think?

http://imgur.com/a/wyZcd

looks super fake.

Now it's on 4Chan too....

http://boards.4chan.org/vp/res/14076433#p14076599
 
RE: (1) Rumor: New Pokemon Greninja, Hawklucha, and Binacle Revealed? [9/29]

bogaboy said:
Just found this. Weird that it says 0 views, and makes me think it is probably fake. What do you guys think?

http://imgur.com/a/wyZcd
The sprite looks way too 2D, and the screenshot looks fake.
Chespin appears pretty clear, but the alleged new Pokemon is extremely blurry.
 
RE: (1) Rumor: New Pokemon Greninja, Hawklucha, and Binacle Revealed? [9/29]

Here's a new picture of Greninja in battle:
original.jpg
 
RE: (1) Rumor: New Pokemon Greninja, Hawklucha, and Binacle Revealed? [9/29]

Chrono said:
bogaboy said:
Just found this. Weird that it says 0 views, and makes me think it is probably fake. What do you guys think?

http://imgur.com/a/wyZcd
The sprite looks way too 2D, and the screenshot looks fake.
Chespin appears pretty clear, but the alleged new Pokemon is extremely blurry.

Yea, but they do have a few pictures of it. But I agree. Almost for sure a fake.
 
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scuba steveE said:
Here's a new picture of Greninja in battle:
original.jpg

Holy shit is this for real? Is this really Froakie's final? All signs point to yes. I can't handle this.
 
RE: (1) Rumor: New Pokemon Greninja, Hawklucha, and Binacle Revealed? [9/29]

scuba steveE said:
Here's a new picture of Greninja:
original.jpg
Wat. Where did you find that?
It actually looks REALLY cool.
The scarf doesn't even look like his tongue in this picture to be honest. It may just be MODELED AFTER a frog's tongue or something.
 
RE: (1) Rumor: New Pokemon Greninja, Hawklucha, and Binacle Revealed? [9/29]

scuba steveE said:
Here's a new picture of Greninja:
original.jpg

Any source?
I really don't know what to say about Geninja, it look's cool, yeah, but to be honest. This picture doesn't look that different. At least they could have made a picture with Geninja having another carriage.
 
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I don't understand why the Froakie line would just randomly lose the bubble cloak? I really hope it's fake.
 
RE: (1) Rumor: New Pokemon Greninja, Hawklucha, and Binacle Revealed? [9/29]

scuba steveE said:
Here's a new picture of Greninja in battle:
original.jpg

you asked for lurkers to post so heres a lurker posting

-Thats cool and all.. really believable but to me it kind of looks like the status screen image of it just flipped. -and bigger.
 
RE: (1) Rumor: New Pokemon Greninja, Hawklucha, and Binacle Revealed? [9/29]

scuba steveE said:
Here's a new picture of Greninja in battle:
original.jpg

Woah this actually looks pretty cool to me. Still not to fond of that tongue scarf though.
 
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I liked Greninja and the bird one a lot...the barnacle not so much but it's not really a bad design or anything. Just not my cup of tea.

And WOAH that new image of Greninja is AMAZING! So excited for October 12th!!!!! EDIT: this is also a lurker posting :) Lurker-Five!
 
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