(1) This Week's 'Pokemon X' and 'Y' News Releases [6/10]

[Whitefire]

GF needs to figure out that hue changes =/= good shiny. Good grief, all/most-of 5th has feces for 'shinies'. Sad to see they're doing the same to this gen too.

 

[mjdkernow]

I'm hoping its a shiny.
But as Teal said it could be variations in light.
Could it be a slight change in Male/Female variation? Like Hippopotas.

 

[Teal]

The female is supposed to have smaller horns.

 

[Zielo]

Im not entirely sold on the idea of it being a shiny just yet. I think it could just be a light variation as well, but it is still possible. All of the sparklies are likely just from the trade animation as well, as they were all around the Pokeball before it let out Gogoat. I doubt it would be a male/female change either, at least I hope that wouldnt be it if there was a gender change because its pretty bland. If there was, I'd imagine it would be a horn size difference or a lack of horns entirely.

Also I agree, hue changes make horrible shinies... so im kinda hoping it isn't one. XS Save the Gogoat shiny for something much cooler.

Also.... why would we need confirmation on shinies returning? I would have never thought that it was ever a concern...

 

[Salamencetrainer34]

Is a hue change shiny just a pokemon whos shiny had a slightly darker/lighter color to it?

 

[Cinesra]

It was a joke... I know about stats... what I meant was, it is going to be funny having a little tiny puff ball being super effective against my big ass dragon.

It's just as funny as a little seed being super effective against my big ass orca glaucus atlanticus god of the ocean

The official release information only refers to Noivern as a bat

To be fair, flavor text does say some absurd things like Grimer being made from moon x-rays

It's been kind of commonly accepted as far as I know that the Cyndaquil line (Echidna) while not a Mouse is meant to represent the Rodent, and Fennekin is supposed to represent the Dog. I'm not the first to make the connection between the Chinese Zodiac and the Fire starters and it's certainly not a New concept at least not since the 3rd or 4th generation.

I never said you were the first to come up with it, just that you were wrong. Echidnas are about as far apart from a rat as any mammal can be. Echidnas lay eggs. And then it evolves into a badger-bear hybrid monster. Fennekin may be close to fitting, but Cyndaquil has nothing to do with it.

'Oops we weren't supposed to say it was based on France. OUR BAD.'

I thought that was pretty funny. Sure little kids might not be able to instantly recognize the Kalos map as France, but come on, they'll know where the Eiffel tower is.

 

[NoDice]

Well, since Im on vacation, I havent been able to weigh in just yet, but I love everything about the games revealed so far!

I personally do not care if we can carry over our mons from the last gen or not though- I have been around since the start (Genwunner that "LIKES" new Pokemon and is not a purist! lol), and I have already had to deal with the whole not transferring over thing. Also, the main positive it would allow (which I see a lot of people mentioning) is stat-redistribution for certian Pokemon that cant compete by todays battling standards, IV/EV refinement, Ability change-ups, redistribute moves to balance the game (TROLL ROCKS anyone?) and Im sure there are other things too.

If they changed the IV system to have only say, 15 variances for each stat, instead of 32, it would make it alot easier to breed better mons. EV system could be upped to a 715 system or something to account for less variances in stats. This would make your Pokemon more unique in a way YOU choose as opposed to whatever the game/RNG decides.

Id also love it if they just got rid of the "Shiny mechanic" and implemented a "varied color" mechanic instead. Like 1 in 4 mons could have 1 of 4 or 5 color variances. More variety is almost ALWAYS better. (The shiny Gogoat gave me this idea BTW, since its color pallet is so abysmally different.)

Anyways, on to the new mons-
Noivern- Upon first glance, I thought it was a bit ugly, but it has since grown on me- once I had a chance to inspect its design a bit closer. I first thought it was a Dragon evo for Swoobat, based on the ears, but now Im pretty convinced its a fresh mon.

Skelp- Looks like a poison evo for Seadra honestly, but meh, not too impressed.

Clauncher- Well, it is definitely a serious contender to take Froakies slot in my team alongside my main starter Chespin, I love its design and coloring, and to have a true Lobster mon (Corphish was meh) is defintiely nice.

The Cub- I like its design, even though its eyes are a bit derpy IMO, but it has a lot of potential (Manticore!) and Im curious to see what its secondary Normal typing becomes. It could have a spot for the Fire Type on my team, as long as FlameTalon doesnt end up being even more rad than the Cubs evo.

Flame Talon- Pretty awesome. I was seriously doubting Fletchling evolving into anything remotely cool looking, and the only other gen bird I have ever liked was Staraptor, so this is a second coming for me liking a starting bird a lot.

The butterfly and the fairy are the worst designs of the bunch IMO- they all have unique things about them that i can appreciate, but I wont be using them most likely. I was actually hoping that GF could do some more interesting type combinations with Bug this time around, but Bug/Flying is as weak a combo as ever, and its not getting any better. Also, I would have definitely liked a more unique and less stereotypical fairy to be revealed along with the type. Oh well though.

I cant wait to see what other crazy things they are implementing or changing with these new additions to the Pokemon franchise. October just cannot come soon enough! And FWIW- Im taking 5 straight days off work just to marathon the hell out of these games when I get them!

 

[Zielo]

Is a hue change shiny just a pokemon whos shiny had a slightly darker/lighter color to it?

Yep. Its just kinda bland.

Id also love it if they just got rid of the "Shiny mechanic" and implemented a "varied color" mechanic instead. Like 1 in 4 mons could have 1 of 4 or 5 color variances. More variety is almost ALWAYS better. (The shiny Gogoat gave me this idea BTW, since its color pallet is so abysmally different.)

I dunno about that. If they did do that, that would mean that each Pokemon has around 4 or 5 forms, which is probably way too much data for the game to handle I'd imagine. And if there were different color varieties, I could see it as being simple hue changes and not much more than that... and then they wouldnt be as rare, so its not as good of a feeling when you find one and they wouldnt be worth as much in trade either. I do however think SOME Pokemon should have different color variations, for example Smeargle.

 

[Luna_Cat16]

Does anyone else think that the flower fairy might display the whole "you stepped on a thing" mechanic? It's really small, so it would make sense to not be able to see it in the grass. They might change flowers depending on the section of Kalos you're in too, like the central would be a white flower and so on and so forth. I don't doubt that it will evolve as well. It definitely feels like it's going to implement the flower in it's design when it evolves somehow.

Speaking of the stepping on thing...this either means that they're going to offer more variety in the type of grasses/cave terrain/water/etc. that you encounter, like having grass with flowers in it for Furabebe, or the shaking grass mechanic is returning. It's probably going to be the latter. :U

All in all I quite like the news! The idea of having a million rivals is a bit annoying though. I hope it stays with the two rival dynamic the leaks described.

 

[NoDice]

Is a hue change shiny just a pokemon whos shiny had a slightly darker/lighter color to it?

Yep. Its just kinda bland.

Id also love it if they just got rid of the "Shiny mechanic" and implemented a "varied color" mechanic instead. Like 1 in 4 mons could have 1 of 4 or 5 color variances. More variety is almost ALWAYS better. (The shiny Gogoat gave me this idea BTW, since its color pallet is so abysmally different.)

I dunno about that. If they did do that, that would mean that each Pokemon has around 4 or 5 forms, which is probably way too much data for the game to handle I'd imagine. And if there were different color varieties, I could see it as being simple hue changes and not much more than that... and then they wouldnt be as rare, so its not as good of a feeling when you find one and they wouldnt be worth as much in trade either. I do however think SOME Pokemon should have different color variations, for example Smeargle.

Actually, now that they have actual models instead of sprites, Id imagine recolors of any kind would be much, much easier to implement, and they would only need to assign values to colors and have those values be randomized. This is as opposed to having to have seperate sprites (with moving animations) being seperate altogether.

And for color variances, I didnt mean just hue changes, but other things as well. For example- Charizard could have -
1. Orange, blue wings (normal Charizard)
2. Black, Red wings (normally a shiny)
3. Orange, Green wings (Im sure some card collectors would enjoy this lol)
4. Red, Black wings.
5. Blue, Orange wings (inverted normal Charizard)

I think this would give a great deal more variety. And like I said they could assign values to each color and have it randomized. Example, you have a chance to get a Charizard with Either Orange, Red or Blue body, and any combination of Blue, Red, Green, Black or Orange wings. And if the color variances are as varied as Im saying, it would still be just as rare to get one specific combination (with good stats for battling) as it would to get a shiny- since only 1 in 4 would have a color variance.

 

[Whitefire]

Top right person has what seems to be a fletchling-tail pin on their hat. Want.

 

[Frezgle]

Actually, now that they have actual models instead of sprites, Id imagine recolors of any kind would be much, much easier to implement, and they would only need to assign values to colors and have those values be randomized. This is as opposed to having to have seperate sprites (with moving animations) being seperate altogether.

It's the opposite- sprite colors are based on palettes, which are nothing more than a handful of byte references telling the game what color to use. A Pokemon's normal and shiny sprite use the same exact sprite data; the only difference is the palette data (which is relatively small).
3D models use textures, which are made of image data. I suppose if those images are palette based, the same technique would be used, but there's obviously going to be more colors than in a sprite either way. So it's not simpler :v

 

[alapost]

loved the new footage and loved how swords dance looks, the swords are really cool and brave bird too!!
3d is great!!!

edit: also, are we expecting more from corocoro? what we got seems quite a lot...

 

[Super4Ever]

I'm fairly close to completing my Dex on Black and White, that's why I got worried when they said they were working on it. Just having trouble completing it since I can't use the WiFi that the apartment I moved into has.

 

[alapost]

something i haven't seen discussed is that since every eveelution has a super effective connection with one other eveelution and we know only dragon super-effectiveness for sylveon which is not yet an eveelution, what do you think, we'll get another eveelution (dragon?) or sylveon will have a weakness in one of already eveelutions types?
(poison is not an eveelution yet either)

(also if that matter has been discussed, i'm really sorry, just ignore it. i can't read each and every page.)

 

[leecario]

something i haven't seen discussed is that since every eveelution has a super effective connection with one other eveelution and we know only dragon super-effectiveness for sylveon which is not yet an eveelution, what do you think, we'll get another eveelution (dragon?) or sylveon will have a weakness in one of already eveelutions types?
(poison is not an eveelution yet either)

(also if that matter has been discussed, i'm really sorry, just ignore it. i can't read each and every page.)

The source claims it's SE on dark types so umbreon? Although to be fair the chart doesn't mean that much

 

[Stewie]

So since Marill is part Fairy-type, does this mean Azumarrill will finally be OU? Half Fairy + Huge Power.

 

[alapost]

yeah forgot bout that, thanks for reminding me.
despite the fact that the inspiration came looking at the chart, i asked that because EVERY eveelution has it's SE connection.
gf doesn't have to follow any traditions, but then again eveelutions are used to show something new each gen and in this one they introduced a whole new type and we don't yet know about the method of evolution!!

 

[OU Pokemon]

So since Marill is part Fairy-type, does this mean Azumarrill will finally be OU? Half Fairy + Huge Power.

Yeah, I think so too. Plus, she gets buffed by Rain too, and also, is Fairy super-effective against Dark and/or Fighting?

 

[leecario]

So since Marill is part Fairy-type, does this mean Azumarrill will finally be OU? Half Fairy + Huge Power.

Yeah, I think so too. Plus, she gets buffed by Rain too, and also, is Fairy super-effective against Dark and/or Fighting?

Iirc the source said SE against dragon, fighting and dark