(2) ‘Pokemon Smash’ Announcing a New Game, New Movie 15th Poster: Two Kyurem Formes, Meloetta Reveal

Funny how people keep saying that the two formes are unsymmetrical, but if you put the two together side by side, they look pretty symmetrical to me. Black Kyurem has ice on the left, White Kyurem on the right. This is kind of symmetrical in a way, at least to me.
 
I talked about placeholder names. Now I have thought more about it. If they were NOT placeholders, don't you think they would rather call the games something like "Pitch Black" and "Pure White" instead? Really pretty much anything else but B2 and W2.
 
I should be excited, and I am, but not as excited as I thought I would be. I would seriously expect more complex names the "Black/White 2". I would also expect more creative Kyurem formes, not just a collision with Reshiram and Zekrom. I mean, how will Kyurem get into those formes? Will those formes be Kyurem's failed attempt to copy Zekrom and Reshiram, or will they be a fusion? Will it require temporarily sacrificing one of your dragons, or will the formes require some sort of object, or will they come on their own? Stay tuned to find out! I can automatically tell that those formes will in fact be version exclusive. I wonder what those system bonuses will be? Too many questions, too little answers.
 
I don't get why some people are complaining about the names. Just be happy that GF are making a new game.

Personally, I can't wait for them! I really hope they release close to, if not on the same date, as the Japanese versions here in North America.
 
TyphloWolf said:
Honestly, the new Kyurem formes looked like that it was based on Reshiram and Zekrom. Does anyone think this?
I think just about everybody did.
 
Wow, This is really big news! (and it's international!).
This announcement goes beyond any of my expectations. I thought we'd have Pokemon Gray... and I'm glad we don't because this looks even sweeter.
Excitement aside, I'm still pondering whether this is a direct sequel to B&W or the actual third counterpart to the pair.
Guess we'll have to wait and see. -.-
 
WOW. o.o ... Pokemon sequels to BLACK and WHITE? Totally unexpected by me! I was thinking GRAY yes, but this....

As for the new formes: MEH. There had better be a intelligent in-game story-related method for creating these new formes. While it's obviously uninspired to mash together two Legendary Pokemon--it's never been done before (to my knowledge). This move seems both lazy and bold all at once. hmm... The adult in me wants to scoff at such idiocy, while the kid in me is going: "OMG SO KWEEELLL!"

Thank goodness for DSi support!!
 
Darkfortitude said:
Based on the June 2nd date they have ether been preparing this for a while or they are using something they already had done like maps to cut time out. Whats wrong with the first idea is that theres no way they could hide something this long. Thats why i think there using old maps and just going from where the last story left off. maybe years in the future maybe not. But they already have hoenn maps done too so they might use them probably not but maybe. I am also hoping that they make a 3ds version or something like that but with such a quick release i don't think so.

Game Freak is a very, very quiet company. As for Hoenn maps, it would still take a decent chunk of time. Sure, the design is done, but having to recreate it with BW graphics can be a task.

Blakexd9 said:
What does the 3DS have that the DSi doesn't that they could put in to this game? The only thing that the 3DS has that the DSi doesn't have is the 3D, it has better graphics, but I don't think they could make better graphics just because that game is in a 3DS. I don't think they could put 3D effects in it either.

Actually, not much. They obviously put the camera stuff for DSi in BW, but I don't think putting in 3DS stuff is quite as easily doable.

Rainbow Dash said:
You know how much time and money that would cost the game creators? Espeically due to the fact these games are set to be released in Japan in June, there's not time to create the game on the DS AND the 3DS.

You know how much time and money Game Freak has?

DXM147 said:
Actually if they wanted to, Nintendo could put both DS and 3DS games onto one cartridge. The 3DS cartridges now have 2 gigabytes of storage. The old Black/White games were around 256 MB in size, and 3DS games like Mario Kart 7 are around 600-700 MB. There are exceptions to this rule, but I think it could be possible.

It'd be a task to pull it off. Effectively, you'd need a brand new type of cartridge. The DS and 3DS cartridge technology is different. They look the same, but the 3DS cartridges obviously have made adjustments to allow for much greater storage. To make that compatible with the DS... You'd need two storage volumes.

don()shinobi said:
Well, we usually don't get the mini movies that Japan does (unless they've secretly been including them on the DVDs and Blu-rays).

Yeah, I believe the last we had was for Ranger and the Temple of the Sea.

Red Striker said:
I have a feeling that the forme changes will work something like how Shaymin changed forme (not including the "only stys that way when not Frozen/in the middle of night" factor). If we all remember, the Black/White Orbs were Key Items. If Kyurem changed forme via those, then first of all, it would prevent the player from transfering it to B/W, and second, you wouldn't be able to get rid of it, unlike with Giratina's Griseous Orb in Plat./GH/SS, if you accidently hit "trash" instead of "hold," it would be gone for good, since DP never "knew" of anything called the Griseous Orb (needless to say, you can transfer the Griseous Orb from BW from game to game now).

I also think it may work like this. Somehow make Reshiram/Zekrom turn into a ball, give it to Kyurem, and end up with Black/White Kyurem.

The only thing is that I think it might be the other way around. Take Kyurem, turn it into its ball, give it to Reshiram/Zekrom, end up with... Black/White Kyurem. Yeah, the names of the new formes wouldn't suggest it, but just look at the design of the formes. Everyone says it looks like Kyurem with Reshiram/Zekrom armor, but I think its the other way around. Reshiram/Zekrom with Kyurem armor. Look at the color of the eyes. Kyurem's are yellow, these are red. Granted, there aren't any blues. Hm.

Trainerhan1 said:
http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-black-version-2-pokemon-white-version-2/

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet but^. Really helps support us getting it on June 2 too.

Yeah, it's been mentioned. It's definitively the most surprising news from this whole thing.


Ty_Sylicus said:
While it's obviously uninspired to mash together two Legendary Pokemon--it's never been done before (to my knowledge).

Yeah, never in the games, only in the manga with Zapmolcuno (and that's a bit of a stretch).
 
Great news. Looking forward to the new games.

I'm wondering what types the formes will be. Freeze Shock and Ice Burn, the obvious signature moves for them, are Ice-type, so I don't see them losing the Ice-type, but they look like Dragons. Maybe they won't be Fire or Electric types.
 
Darkfortitude said:
Based on the June 2nd date they have ether been preparing this for a while or they are using something they already had done like maps to cut time out. Whats wrong with the first idea is that theres no way they could hide something this long. Thats why i think there using old maps and just going from where the last story left off. maybe years in the future maybe not. But they already have hoenn maps done too so they might use them probably not but maybe. I am also hoping that they make a 3ds version or something like that but with such a quick release i don't think so.

All the Hoenn towns and routes will have to be edited to fit in with the BW graphics. This process takes a substantial amount of time and they will also have to update the engine, so that it doesn't look too similar to Black/White.
 
Woaahahhadljfldjfoijodrtmeoig!! So much news!!


There's so much stuff to discuss. I guess I'll just go in order of what I see fit.

1. I don't like Hoenn
2. After seeing the release info, I'm thinking that they're gonna include Sinnoh!!! Here is my main points to go off of:

a. I really liked Sinnoh, so it's probably already a given.
b. They look a lot like Palkia, and they're both dragons! What a coincidence!!
c. It says two incredibly new adventures! If they were to link with Sinnoh, wouldn't that be new? Yes, it would.
d. If you look at at the Meloetta poster, you'll see a Piplup there. Who's the only person in the world to have a Piplup? Dawn! DUN DUN DUN!!!
e. (This one's a doozy) If you think about Reshiram and Kyurem, they're both Fire and Ice. What happens when you melt ice? You get water. Who's a Water Dragon Legend? PALKIA!!
f. Cynthia was the strongest opponent in BW. Coincidence, or HINT???
g. Poffins was probably mentioned somewhere in BW
h. So, CLEARLY, from my above argument, there is no doubt that Sinnoh will be included in some way in Pokemon black and White 2. You'll probably go through Sinnoh, AWESOME!

3. That's how all of you "Hoenn" people sound right now.
4. IF the Black and White Kyurems are formes, then the games will be awesome.
5. IF they are not formes, but actual Pokemon, then they will be the biggest letdown in Pokemon history.
6. Since I do believe it to be a sequel, they will probably be making new characters, which I am excited about. Hopefully they won't look so Nuvema Town-ish.
7. I will be happy with this game coming out in Winter, as this does seem like the ideal release date for NA.
 
On aside note, after the new formes/Pokémon were announced a huge snow storm happened where I live. I went outside and was blocked by a 3 or so foot tall wall of snow. No lie.
 
This is on the last page of the current issue of Nintendo Power.
Below it says explains that next month there are a few surprises in store, including "one that's the stuff dreams are made of."
Took one glance at the photo and knew it had to be B&W2. Anybody else see that?

BTW, Hi everyone. I'm new here. Been hiding in the background for a while, wanted to make my first post count for something. Hope it does ;) Haha.

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Interesting photo. I don't have the newest issue yet, but hopefully I'll get it soon.

I can make out Zekrom on the right but, Reshiram on the left...and what's the deal with that hand on the ground??
 
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