(2) BW8 Scans and Translations, Plasma Storm Cards [12/12]

Machamp the Champion said:
If you're facing Eels, just don't bench it. It's almost as if a single deck isn't a problem. Oh, wait. IT ISN'T!
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lolololololololol

I have been running Eels for the past couple months and, although it's died down in popularity, it's still a pretty solid deck, at least that's what I feel. I don't expect it to just completely take over the format, but it's held up for me pretty nicely.

also lol people suggesting Plasma Frigate in Zekeels. I'll give you a while to figure out for yourselves that that is the worst possible thing you could do for yourself.
 
Machamp the Champion said:
The Pikachu Mafia said:
wut? :|

eels is going to make a comeback after Lugia mercilessly murders landorus EX rotom is released, just watch as lightning types rule the format, again...
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It probably will (I'm not being sarcastic at all, I seriously think it will). But one deck isn't going to be an issue. If you face Eels, don't bench Tornadus, it's as simple as that. Other then Thundurus EX (which will probably only be used in a few decks), there's next to no other Lightning types, meaning Tornadus is useful in almost every other match up. I really hate that logic that one deck will ruin a cards playability. Garchomp didn't make RayEels unplayable.
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oh so that's what you meant :|

I think people are thinking that because normal tornadus EX and Empoleon weren't very playable when they first came out due to eels and only eels :| (same thing is happening now, White Tea is one deck, but it completely changed the playability of an otherwise tier 1 deck)

Tornadus-T EX will probably be very good, just not great. The reason isn't it's weakness either. the problem is it's a cleffa wannabe that can be catcher ko'd for 2 prizes at any point in the game... but it will still see play I think...
 
DNA said:
Machamp the Champion said:
If you're facing Eels, just don't bench it. It's almost as if a single deck isn't a problem. Oh, wait. IT ISN'T!
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lolololololololol

I have been running Eels for the past couple months and, although it's died down in popularity, it's still a pretty solid deck, at least that's what I feel. I don't expect it to just completely take over the format, but it's held up for me pretty nicely.

also lol people suggesting Plasma Frigate in Zekeels. I'll give you a while to figure out for yourselves that that is the worst possible thing you could do for yourself.
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I never said Eels wasn't good, I'm just saying Eels and Eels alone won't turn Tornadus T EX into a unplayable card.

The Pikachu Mafia said:
Machamp the Champion said:
It probably will (I'm not being sarcastic at all, I seriously think it will). But one deck isn't going to be an issue. If you face Eels, don't bench Tornadus, it's as simple as that. Other then Thundurus EX (which will probably only be used in a few decks), there's next to no other Lightning types, meaning Tornadus is useful in almost every other match up. I really hate that logic that one deck will ruin a cards playability. Garchomp didn't make RayEels unplayable.
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oh so that's what you meant :|

I think people are thinking that because normal tornadus EX and Empoleon weren't very playable when they first came out due to eels and only eels :| (same thing is happening now, White Tea is one deck, but it's completely changed the playability of an otherwise tier 1 deck)
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What deck has White Tea destroyed? This is the first time I've heard White Tea destroying a decks playability. That's also a little different, since a lot of stuff from White Tea is in other decks. Darkrai, Ho-Oh, Landorus/Stuff, Garbodor and even Eels can all run Colorless Pokemon with Aspertia. Lightning stuff pretty much only exists within Eels.

Also, I'm pretty sure Empoleon just wasn't very good back then. Empoleon was way too slow compared to Eels, Darkrai and CMT. And Tornadus EX was still used in CMT... or wasn't it? I don't know, but I'm pretty sure the reason it wasn't used was because Mewtwo was just better in pretty much every deck.
 
Machamp the Champion said:
Why are there so few Ace Specs? Will you automatically get both of them in 1 box? Or will there pull rate go down?
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Also, why does the Kyurem in this set have basically a better version of Kyurem EX's attack?
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1st, I actually think that's good. Why so many ACE Specs if you can only run 1 in your deck and it will most likely be Computer Search?

2nd, it doesn't. Kyurem-EX's attack lets it use its other attack next turn. This one doesn't let you attack at all next turn.
 
Machamp the Champion said:
DNA said:
lolololololololol

I have been running Eels for the past couple months and, although it's died down in popularity, it's still a pretty solid deck, at least that's what I feel. I don't expect it to just completely take over the format, but it's held up for me pretty nicely.

also lol people suggesting Plasma Frigate in Zekeels. I'll give you a while to figure out for yourselves that that is the worst possible thing you could do for yourself.
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I never said Eels wasn't good, I'm just saying Eels and Eels alone won't turn Tornadus T EX into a unplayable card.

The Pikachu Mafia said:
oh so that's what you meant :|

I think people are thinking that because normal tornadus EX and Empoleon weren't very playable when they first came out due to eels and only eels :| (same thing is happening now, White Tea is one deck, but it's completely changed the playability of an otherwise tier 1 deck)
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What deck has White Tea destroyed? This is the first time I've heard White Tea destroying a decks playability. That's also a little different, since a lot of stuff from White Tea is in other decks. Darkrai, Ho-Oh, Landorus/Stuff, Garbodor and even Eels can all run Colorless Pokemon with Aspertia. Lightning stuff pretty much only exists within Eels.

Also, I'm pretty sure Empoleon just wasn't very good back then. Empoleon was way too slow compared to Eels, Darkrai and CMT. And Tornadus EX was still used in CMT... or wasn't it? I don't know, but I'm pretty sure the reason it wasn't used was because Mewtwo was just better in pretty much every deck.
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white tea pretty much stopped rayeels from being tier 1, remember how it was BDIF before that deck existed? Also empoleon/terrakion was a solid deck back in HS-DEX, it had an okay matchup vs darkrai and CMT, it's only real problem was it's bad eels matchup. Tornadus EX was hyped when he first came out, but at nats almost no one ran him, because he wasted too many cards and I quote "he was just 2 free prizes vs eels."
 
This new set looks like a lot of fun! Boundaries Crossed has to be the most boring set by far. (Also the set I've spent the least money and time collecting on).

I've excited to begin the Plasma age here in the West. It's just a shame that Stage 2 support still isn't strong and that cards like that Frozen Stadium are punishing non-Plasma deks. :/
 
BC wasn't boring! It gave us Ace Spec items and Lando EX to spice things up and give tornadus a second chance! I think that Dragons Exalted (yes the set dragons came from) was more boring than this one...
 
Machamp the Champion said:
I never said Eels wasn't good, I'm just saying Eels and Eels alone won't turn Tornadus T EX into a unplayable card.
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And I agree with that completely. What really hurts it more is that it has 2 retreat (making it hard to leave the active spot), and once it actually does go to the bench, it does nothing more than sit there and take up space. I'm not saying Tornadus-T EX is unplayable to begin with, but those two factors won't really help it.

Hopefully Zekrom will be enough to scare Lugia EX back into the shadows, where it belongs.
 
I hope zekrom will but in order to do that he'll have to get into a stadium war with lugia (which should end up in your favor if you run 2-3 SAB, but every time they get one zekrom or eel it's like them taking down an EX :s )
 
okay then, what decks besides white tea (aka Lando/Mewtwo/tornadus) has a high enough landorus concentration to beat rayeels? Speed lando was killed and darkrai only uses it as a tech. It may be one card, but it really only works against rayeels effectively in one or two decks.
 
The Pikachu Mafia said:
BC wasn't boring! It gave us Ace Spec items and Lando EX to spice things up and give tornadus a second chance! I think that Dragons Exalted (yes the set dragons came from) was more boring than this one...
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Dragons Exalted gave us DRAGONS!! The first new Type added to the TCG in many years! That alone made the set very exciting. :)

Computer Search and Lando, really? Of course those are great cards but, as for building fun decks with the non-EX rares, what's there to play with besides Blastoise and maybe Charizard (for nostalgia sakes). The set is filled with underwhelming, non-interesting cards. So much so that the only cards I've bought from the set are the ones we've mentioned here. That means I've spent (far) less money on BCR than any other Pokémon set to date. :/
 
The Pikachu Mafia said:
okay then, what decks besides white tea (aka Lando/Mewtwo/tornadus) has a high enough landorus concentration to beat rayeels? Speed lando was killed and darkrai only uses it as a tech. It may be one card, but it really only works against rayeels effectively in one or two decks.
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Oh THAT'S what White Tea is? I thought it was just Colorless Pokemon. I still stand by my point that Landorus can be in tons of decks, and is, while Eels is pretty much one deck (with 2 main variants).

Ty_Sylicus said:
The Pikachu Mafia said:
BC wasn't boring! It gave us Ace Spec items and Lando EX to spice things up and give tornadus a second chance! I think that Dragons Exalted (yes the set dragons came from) was more boring than this one...
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Dragons Exalted gave us DRAGONS!! The first new Type added to the TCG in many years! That alone made the set very exciting. :)

Computer Search and Lando, really? Of course those are great cards but, as for building fun decks with the non-EX rares, what's there to play with besides Blastoise and maybe Charizard (for nostalgia sakes). The set is filled with underwhelming, non-interesting cards. So much so that the only cards I've bought from the set are the ones we've mentioned here. That means I've spent (far) less money on BCR than any other Pokémon set to date. :/
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Dusknoir...
 
I'm pretty sure White tea does have a high concentration of landorus... unless my info is false (by info I mean stalking 6P :p) although I believe that not all versions of white tea run him...

I suppose it was landorus and not the deck... but whatever :p
 
awesome cards
Exeggcute - Grass - HP30
Basic Pokemon
Ability: Sap Sipper
Once during your turn, if this Pokemon is in your discard pile, you can put it into your hand.
[G][C] Seed Bomb: 30 damage.
Weakness: Fire (x2)
Resistance: Water (-20)
Retreat: 1
Chandelure - Fire - HP130
Stage 2 (Team Plasma) - Evolves from Lampent
Ability: Flare Navigation
Once during your turn (before your attack), you may search your deck for a Fire Energy and attach it to one of your Pokemon. Place 1 damage counter on that Pokemon. Shuffle your deck afterwards.
[R][R][C] Absorb Life: 70 damage. Heal 30 damage from this Pokemon.
Weakness: Water (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
Glaceon - Water - HP90
Stage 1 (Team Plasma) - Evolves from Eevee
Ability: Freeze Zone
All of your Team Plasma Pokemon require two less Energy to retreat.
[W][C][C] Icy Wind: 60 damage. The Defending Pokemon is now Asleep.
Weakness: Metal (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
Mr. Mime - Psychic - HP70
Basic Pokemon
Ability: Bench Barrier
Your Benched Pokemon can’t be damaged by attacks.
[P][C] Confusion: 20 damage. Flip a coin. If heads, the Defending Pokemon is now Confused.
Weakness: Psychic (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1
Deoxys-EX - Psychic - HP170
Basic Pokemon (Team Plasma)
Ability: Power Connect
All of your Team Plasma Pokemon (excluding Deoxys-EX) do 10 more damage to the Defending Pokemon.
[P][C] Spiral Force: 30+ damage. If this Pokemon has a Plasma Energy attached to it, this attack does 30 more damage for each Energy attached to the Defending Pokemon.
When Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: Psychic (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
Weavile - Darkness - HP90
Stage 1 (Team Plasma) - Evolves from Sneasel
[C] Hail: Does 10 damage to each of your opponent's Pokemon. (Don't apply Weakness and Resistance for Benched Pokemon.)
[D][C] Scapegoats: 30x damage. You may discard as many Pokemon from your hand as you like. This attack does 30 times the number of cards discarded this way.
Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: Psychic (-20)
Retreat: 1
Absol - Darkness - HP100
Basic Pokemon (Team Plasma)
[D][C] Mind Jack: 20+ damage. This attack does 20 more damage for each of your opponent's Benched Pokemon.
[D][C][C] Shadow Fear: 60 damage. Look at your opponent's hand.
Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: Psychic (-20)
Retreat: 1
Kingdra - Dragon - HP140
Stage 2 - Evolves from Seadra
[C] Twister: 20x damage. Shuffle all [W] and [L] Energy from your discard pile into your deck. This attack does 20 damage times the number of cards shuffled back in this way.
[W] Tri Bullet: This attack does 30 damage to 3 of your opponent’s Pokemon. (Don’t apply Weakness and Resistance for Benched Pokemon.)
Weakness: Dragon (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1
Latios-EX - Dragon - HP170
Basic Pokemon
[P][C] Mach Fly: 40 damage. During your opponent’s next turn, the Defending Pokemon can’t retreat.
[W][P][C] Luster Purge: 150 damage. Discard all Energy attached to this Pokemon.
When Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: Dragon (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
Raticate - Colorless - HP70
Stage 1 (Team Plasma) - Evolves from Rattata
[C] Junk Transform: Select 1 Team Plasma Pokemon, Team Plasma Trainer, and Team Plasma Energy card from your discard pile, and put them into your hand.
[C][C] Bite: 30 damage.
Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 0
Super Energy Retrieval - Trainer
Item
Discard 2 cards from your hand. Select 4 basic Energy cards from your discard pile, show them to your opponent, and put them into your hand. (You cannot select cards discarded by this card’s effect.)
You can use any number of Item cards during your turn.
Ghetsis - Trainer
Supporter (Team Plasma)
Look at your opponent’s hand. Your opponent shuffles all Item cards back into his or her deck. Draw 1 card for each Item card shuffled in this way.
You may play only 1 Supporter card during your turn (before your attack).
Frozen City - Trainer
Stadium (Team Plasma)
When either player attaches an Energy to their non-Team Plasma Pokemon, place 2 damage counters on that Pokemon.
This card stays in play when you play it. Discard this card if another Stadium card comes into play. If another card with the same name is in play, you can’t play this card.
Ultra Ball - Trainer
Item
Discard 2 cards from your hand. (If you can't discard 2 cards, you can't play this card.) Search your deck for a Pokemon, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Shuffle your deck afterward.
You can use any number of Item cards during your turn.
Reshiram - Fire - HP130
Basic Pokemon
[R][C][C] Miracle Heat: 50 damage. Remove all Special Conditions on this Pokemon.
[R][C][C][C] Cross Flame: 80+ damage. If there is a Zekrom on your Bench, this attack does 40 more damage.
Weakness: Water (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
Electrode - Lightning - HP90
Stage 1 - Evolves from Voltorb
Ability: Charge Draw
Draw cards until you have 4 cards in your hand. You can only use this ability once per turn.
[L][C][C] Electro Ball: 60 damage.
Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1
Thundurus-EX - Lightning - HP170
Basic Pokemon (Team Plasma)
[L] Thunder Knuckle: 30 damage. Attach an Energy card from your discard pile to one of your Benched Team Plasma Pokemon.
[L][L][C][C] Thunder Route: 90 damage. If this Pokemon has a Plasma Energy attached to it, discard an Energy card attached to the Defending Pokemon.
When Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1
Metagross - Psychic - HP140
Stage 2 (Team Plasma) - Evolves from Metang
Ability: Plasma Search
Once during your turn (before your attack), you may search your deck for a Team Plasma card, show it to your opponent, and put it into your hand. Shuffle your deck afterwards. You can’t use more than one Plasma Search ability each turn.
[P][C][C][C] Psycho Trip: 60 damage. The Defending Pokemon is now Confused.
Weakness: Psychic (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
Umbreon - Darkness - HP100
Stage 1 (Team Plasma) - Evolves from Eevee
Ability: Dark Shade
All of your Team Plasma Pokemon have +20 HP.
[D][C][C] Darkness Fang: 70 damage.
Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: Psychic (-20)
Retreat: 1
Latias-EX - Dragon - HP160
Basic Pokemon
Ability: Shining Feathers
This Pokemon is unaffected by moves from a Pokemon that has an Ability.
[R][P][C] Penetrate: 70 damage. This attack isn’t affected by Weakness, Resistance, or any effects on the Defending Pokemon.
When Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: Dragon (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1
evee - Colorless - HP60
Basic Pokemon
[C] Signs of Evolution: Search your deck for up to 3 cards that evolve from Eevee, show them to your opponent, and put them into your hand. Shuffle your deck afterward.
[C][C][C] Bite: 30 damage.
Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1
Staraptor - Colorless - HP130
Stage 2 - Evolves from Staravia
[C][C][C] Wing Attack: 60 damage.
[C][C][C][C] Strong Breeze: Shuffle the Defending Pokemon, and all cards attached to it, back into your opponent’s deck.
Weakness: Lightning (x2)
Resistance: Fighting (-20)
Retreat: 1
Tornadus-EX - Colorless - HP180
Basic Pokemon (Team Plasma)
[C] Streamers: Shuffle your hand back into your deck, then draw six cards.
[C][C][C][C] Jet Burst: 60+ damage. This attack does 30 more damage for each Plasma Energy attached to this Pokemon.
When Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: Lightning (x2)
Resistance: Fighting (-20)
Retreat: 2
Team Plasma’s Poke Ball - Trainer
Item (Team Plasma)
Search your deck for a Team Plasma Pokemon card, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Shuffle your deck afterwards.
You can use any number of Item cards during your turn.
Float Stone - Trainer
Item
Pokemon Tool: Each Pokemon can have only 1 Pokemon Tool attached to it at any time.
The Pokemon this card is attached to has no retreat cost.
You can use any number of Item cards during your turn.
Shadow Triad - Trainer
Supporter (Team Plasma)
Search your discard pile for a Team Plasma card, reveal it to your opponent, and put it into your hand.
You may play only 1 Supporter card during your turn (before your attack).
Life Essence - Trainer
Item
Pokemon Tool: Each Pokemon can have only 1 Pokemon Tool attached to it at any time.
When the Pokemon this card is attached to is Knocked Out, your opponent takes one less Prize Card.
ACE SPEC: You can’t have more than 1 ACE SPEC card in your deck.
You can use any number of Item cards during your turn.
Plasma Energy - Energy
Special Energy (Team Plasma)
This card provides [C] Energy.
Professor Juniper - Trainer
Supporter
Discard your hand and draw 7 cards.
You may play only 1 Supporter card during your turn (before your attack).
Max Potion - Trainer
Item
Heal all damage from 1 of your Pokemon. Then, discard all Energy attached to that Pokemon.
You may play as many Item cards as you like during your turn (before your attack).
Garbodor - Psychic - HP100
Stage 1 - Evolves from Trubbish
Ability: Garbotoxin
If this Pokemon has a Pokemon Tool card attached to it, each Pokemon in play, in each player's hand, and in each player's discard pile has no Abilities (except for Garbotoxin).
[P][P][C] Sludge Toss: 60 damage.
Weakness: Psychic (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 3
Empoleon - Water - HP140
Stage 2 - Evolves from Prinplup
Ability: Diving Draw
Once during your turn (before your attack), you may discard a card from your hand. If you do, draw 2 cards.
[W] Attack Command: 10x damage. Does 10 damage times the number of Pokemon in play (both yours and your opponent's).
Weakness: Lightning (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
Sigilyph - Psychic - HP90
Basic Pokemon
Ability: Safeguard
Prevent all effects of attacks, including damage, done to this Pokemon by Pokemon-EX.
[P][C][C] Psychic: 50+ damage. Does 10 more damage for each Energy attached to the Defending Pokemon.
Weakness: Psychic (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1
 
I thought White Tea was Tornadus EX + Bouffalant + Mewtwo EX + Aspertia Gym.
I could be wrong, though. But yeah, I could see Landorus in there.
 
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