(2) New Set of X/Y Rumors, Xerneas/Yveltal Half Decks [9/23]
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He now freely admits to NOT being the person who sent WPM the original info.
We can now stop arguing about the classification of insects vs bugs vs aracnids.
However, Hedgehog vs Porcupine is still fair game xD
Blob55 said:
No, but it looks much more formidable. That should have been "hardier"/"meaner". Although I guess I saw some details in Meganium's sprite that aren't present in all artwork (the slight hardening of facial detail, which I saw because of the sprite where it's apparently yelling), the color scheme is different. It's larger. There are substantial changes to the overall design, and the base facial design changes in the form of eye color. Bayleef's eyes are red, but Meganium's are yellow.
I revised that to be meaner/hardier/larger, by the way, because one of those things is always true. Meganium is substantially larger than Bayleef.
Ganman3 said:
Standing on two legs =/= bipedal. Bipedal refers to their locomotion, it runs and walks like Quilava on four legs, and Pikachu, yes, Pikachu is a quadruped as well. Even GameFreak recognises this. Although it is said it is capable of bipedal movement, this is limited.
Blob55 said:
Okay. So it looks like there's substantial debate on this. You can throw out the bipedal bit, as it's apparently bipedal/quadrapedal. However, I still see substantial changes in base design. The face of Quilava is gentler, but Typhlosion's face resembles Tyranitar's. I think this is due to the shrinking of the pupils. The eyes have also changed in position relative to the facial design, as its eyes are on the lower-colored portion of its face... the white, beige, or tan portion as opposed to the sort of dark-blue part. I define the base design as the most basic model onto which all other changes are added. There's some subjectivity to this, but I'd apply body shape and color scheme to this. Blastoise's cannons, for example, would be extraneous details, but its shell would not. The petals around Bayleef's neck would be extraneous details. Even the position of the flames on Typhlosion/Quilava's body would be extraneous. I realize that this is not foolproof, that there are exceptions, and that it becomes a bit blurry on where to draw the line, but you can tell if something's changed on the most basic level even if there is a strong resemblance. It would be akin to a man growing a beard; although he now has a beard, he is the same person, and he's recognizable under the beard as the same person. His eye color and definitive facial shape haven't changed. Humans vary much more greatly than Pokemon; the guy could work out, gain weight, or lose weight, and by the same standards that I apply to Pokemon, his "base design" would have changed, but Pokemon don't really vary in physique.
Typhlosion is bipedal for the most part, except it usually goes on all fours to run or dash, as seen when it uses Flame Wheel. Swampert is somewhat analogous to this, though Swampert walks around more like a gorilla than actually having its back erect.
They're still a lot different, but...yeah, I'll concede that. Porcupine quills generally tend to be a lot larger, however. Though Quilladin, at least to me, looks like it's based on a burr. But if it's hedgehog vs porcupine we're talking about, I'd side with porcupine for this guy, because the quills are longer, and more pronounced.
Hedgehogs...well, their quills are very short, and dispersed evenly across the body. Just look at Shaymin. That is basically exactly what hedgehogs look like.
Kitana Coldfire said:
They're still a lot different, but...yeah, I'll concede that. Porcupine quills generally tend to be a lot larger, however. Though Quilladin, at least to me, looks like it's based on a burr. But if it's hedgehog vs porcupine we're talking about, I'd side with porcupine for this guy, because the quills are longer, and more pronounced.
Hedgehogs...well, their quills are very short, and dispersed evenly across the body. Just look at Shaymin. That is basically exactly what hedgehogs look like.
Yveltal said:
It seems he just wanted attention and to draw traffic to his website.
He's not the same person who sent info to WPM, so the rumors on the front page are still unconfirmed fake/legit.
The supposed final evolution of froakie was not from this troll's website, right? Meaning it still can be real. Gods I hope it's real cause I'm in love with it
DNA said:
I was making a joke, hon. I brought up the fact that Hedgehogs and Porcupines aren't the same waaaaay back near the start of the thread, when people were screaming about how 'GF wouldn't put two of the same animal in the same generation'.
And bogaboy, if you dig deep enough into the forums here, you'll probably come across some old threads that might still have pictures up. Just go back to the summer of 2010 or so for Gen V.
I don't think it was necessarily confirmed fake. It's not very likely that it's real, because these things don't just pop up out of nowhere. As such, we can't find the actual source to confirm or deny. I followed the bread trail as far as it went. Just a dead end, no proof of anything. It certainly didn't COME from 4chan, it just ended up there.Blob55 said:
@bogaboy, it does confirm the fraudulence of the name "Gallantoad," though.
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