Beartic and the ultimate amnesia

its really not hard to get the vileplume trainer lock up early. and setting up a beartic with water and dce isnt too tough either. not a big need for trainers at that point. you can still play communication and rare candy to get set up and then no need after that. by switching to gothitelle you give up having both trainer and attack lock up at once. i may play mine with slowking col and judge to hinder my opponents hand and help with my set up since i wont be playing trainers.
 
I'll hold you up to that, heck this may just be the next deck I build for next set. Beartic/Vileplume seems like a really fun deck to play, hopefully it won't hurt the deck too much.
 
It's really not that big of a deal. Pretty easy to get around if you ask me, and a +power Blue Flare will do the trick on this guy. Emboar varients will have no problem against him, all you have to do is attach 1 to 2 to 3 energies and get outta there. I see him as a tech maybe in lock decks, but it's way too easy to get around if he gets popular. Switch, Dodrio, whatever. I'd try running 1-1 or 2-2 of him in a Kingdra Mandibuzz and kill a dodrio in the back if they have one. This is somewhat like Gliscor X. The real problem is that when you kill whatever you're Sheer Colding, it's dead. They'll just be able to revenge kill it.
 
Card Slinger J said:
I'll hold you up to that, heck this may just be the next deck I build for next set. Beartic/Vileplume seems like a really fun deck to play, hopefully it won't hurt the deck too much.

seekers, defender, and a benched gloom to stop the revenge KO. ;) defender is highly playable this format.
 
ooo, good one hipoke. i very much like it as a tech in kingbuzz. hits hard, stalls, utilizes energy in deck and wait for it... no lightning weakness. yay! but about your other comments; the good part about the trainer lock is no plus power. and even if you start using cards like dodrio for free retreat you still can only do it once per turn. and if they can revenge ko, you should have a second beartic waiting on your bench. playing cards like judge and slowking will hinder your opponetns hand and ability to set up secondary attackers even if they are able to switch them active. im not claiming this to be the best card or deck i just think it will be very popular. might also do well with scizor as it covers weakness and also can wall.
 
Beartic's take way too long to charge up to sucesfully have one on the bench every time I revenge kill it. Also anyone remember Gliscor X? Gliscor could paralyze you every turn if played right, and could control when you die thanks to poison and crobat drops, so you're able to keep parlyzing and they would never get to attack OR retreat. And then you'd bring up spiritomb and lock them up. With beartic you can't control when they die, it takes two energies (one of which is hard to get out) to set up, they are able to retreat, and you need to set up a stage 2 for the lock. Since I've already proven why Gliscor is better than Beartic, look at this fact. Gliscor hasn't been in almost 0 tournaments recently. So the fate of Beartic as a deck? I vote it's useless.
 
^ hmmm you prove a WOAH WHAT THE HECK IS MERGING INTO MY POST?!?!?!

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OH hi feraligatr prime...i guess you could help couldnt you :p
 
Getting two Stage-2's out and Beartic is going to be slow. The second stage-2 is Vileplume, since he's a play against Switch/SSU.
 
Yeah, just Regular Bearplume is all you need. DCE and a water is a lot better than setting up another stage 2
 
Bearplume is millions of times better. They cant use switch or SSU to get out of the active, and along with that they are locked from set up trainers too
 
^they will have to run out some time and they wone always have a switch on them or even run it
 
setting up a stage 2 isn't worth it to get energy on a WCC for an attack... ever. DCE says hi
 
one turn to get all 3 says hi :p. either way you are setting up a stage 1 and a stage 2
 
Even if they don't run it, better to have it than not run it. Besides, at only 100HP, and the fact that Junk Arm is in the format, your opponent could still setup on the Bench.

EDIT: Effectiveness over speed, catutie. I'd much rather have a slower setup and then cripple my opponent later in the game.
 
and the trainer lock prevents catcher which screws you over too. bearplume>beargatr.
 
Yay people here are smart =P Anyways why would you ever use a stage 2 to get the same energy attachment as a DCE and a water, which in this format takes the same amount of time if you attach your 1st energy to the basic and then attach the 2nd after evolving
 
just an alternate idea...thats all. BUT if this and catcher get released in the same set....oh god, it automatically becomes the most expensive set in the format
 
Seriously, you guys are overhyping it. Read my post about gliscor x.
 
I'm not saying its that good either, Steelix and Scizor say hi. I'm just saying that Vileplume is the obvious play in the deck
 
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