Durant makes me want to quit TCG

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AmishEskimoNinja said:
All it takes is a reshiphlosion or a trainer lock to beat it. Which is why those are the only decks that are winning significant numbers of cities.

TyRam and Trainer Lock aren't winning the most cities. MagEel is and considering that MagEel is a sorta bad matchup when against Durant.
 
AmishEskimoNinja said:
No I disagree. The truth can be beaten by anything with catchers, consistent damage, and a fast set up. Virtually everything fits into that. And gothitelle gets beaten by anything that can outspeed it or do 130 damage. Which is a huge portion of the meta.


Trainer lock isn't played? The two Cities in my area were won by a Chandeplume and a Reshiphlosion. So speaking from experience, they are.



So Trainer Lock and Phlosion are played. That should make you happy! No more Durant! You just made a point against yourself.
 
Riskbreakers said:
TyRam and Trainer Lock aren't winning the most cities. MagEel is and considering that MagEel is a sorta bad matchup when against Durant.

I guess I can't speak for outside of new mexico, but around here, the wins are from fire and trainer lock. I don't think I've ever even lost to a MagEel.
 
AmishEskimoNinja said:
No I disagree. The truth can be beaten by anything with catchers, consistent damage, and a fast set up. Virtually everything fits into that. And gothitelle gets beaten by anything that can outspeed it or do 130 damage. Which is a huge portion of the meta.

Exactly. Only thise kind of decks can beat the truth (though I'd argue it isn't easy for EelZone to beat it, and ZPST is 70% unless you get donked). Gothitelle only loses to 130+ damage outputs (and a few other things : P).

And most decks lose when outspeed.


It seems you just don't like metagaming.
I wanted to play 6 Corners, but it didn't fit my meta so I didn't use it. If you want to use a deck, but it doesn't fit your meta, there is nothing you can do, so just don;t use it
 
alexmf2 said:
So Trainer Lock and Phlosion are played. That should make you happy! No more Durant! You just made a point against yourself.

No it doesn't. You're not paying attention. I'm saying I DON'T want to have to select my deck based on what its durant machup is.
 
AmishEskimoNinja said:
No it doesn't. You're not paying attention. I'm saying I DON'T want to have to select my deck based on what its durant machup is.

I believe someone before made a point about wanting to play Dialga CoL, because it was cool to shuffle your hand into your deck.
 
This argument is ridiculous. Everyone is claiming to have proved a point that isn't related to the current discussion. I'm going to go make better use of my Saturday morning.
 
AmishEskimoNinja said:
No it doesn't. You're not paying attention. I'm saying I DON'T want to have to select my deck based on what its durant machup is.

You are going to have to select a deck based on the BDIF, Durant or not. Again, you seem to be complaining that you don't like metagaming.
 
AmishEskimoNinja said:
This argument is ridiculous. Everyone is claiming to have proved a point that isn't related to the current discussion. I'm going to go make better use of my Saturday morning.

It's ridiculous because you're making ways to make it ridiculous.

Look, MagEel hates fighting, Truth hates anything that can 1shot its tanks just like in the same boat that Durant hates fire and Trainer lock. Every deck has its own good and bad matchups and Durant is no exception to that.


AmishEskimoNinja said:
No it doesn't. You're not paying attention. I'm saying I DON'T want to have to select my deck based on what its durant machup is.

Just like Glaceon is trying to imply, you have to select a deck based on overall matchups and Durant is one of those many matchups any deck has to be prepared for. Not preparing for a certain matchup is negligence and should not warrant excessive whining especially when the deck in question (Durant) already has two threads here in PB.


AmishEskimoNinja said:
This argument is ridiculous. Everyone is claiming to have proved a point that isn't related to the current discussion. I'm going to go make better use of my Saturday morning.

You can probably use your Saturday morning trying to think up ways of beating Durant rather than complaining about it day in and day out. When my deck has a bad matchup, I try to think of ways to beat it by outplaying it and stuff. Durant is so one-dimensional that it is very easy to outplay unless you're really unlucky. If it makes you feel better, I used Durant awhile ago and went 2-2.
 
Riskbreakers said:
Just like Glaceon is trying to imply, you have to select a deck based on overall matchups and Durant is one of those many matchups any deck has to be prepared for.

I think this is what amish is angry about. He's not sure how to counter durant effectively (and to be honest, I'm not sure either)

Rerishram requires a blue flare to be effective and that only possible in fire-decks or V-create victini, which is vulnerable to catchers and ditto-lock.

He just wants to play any deck he likes without having to stack several cards to counter a single threat
 
27th_wonder said:
I think this is what amish is angry about. He's not sure how to counter durant effectively (and to be honest, I'm not sure either)

Rerishram requires a blue flare to be effective and that only possible in fire-decks or V-create victini, which is vulnerable to catchers and ditto-lock.

He just wants to play any deck he likes without having to stack several cards to counter a single threat

Yes, but there will always be a deck that you have to go out.of your way to counter just.live with it
 
Given the way that this thread has been going downhill pretty fast lately - even degrading to the point of outright flaming, I think there's really only one thing I can say about this discussion right now:

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If the thread doesn't get much better than this, I will report it. This has gone way too far.
 
Okay, I'm going to lock this thread. Nobody is flaming anybody, but people are starting to spam/troll it and hardly any discussion is coming out of it at this point. Some of the remaining discussion is off-topic anyway. There's a couple other Durant threads, so unresolved parts of the discussion can be moved to those threads.

DNA said:
Given the way that this thread has been going downhill pretty fast lately - even degrading to the point of outright flaming, I think there's really only one thing I can say about this discussion right now:

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If the thread doesn't get much better than this, I will report it. This has gone way too far.
Posts like these only make the thread worse. Trolling the thread then saying to improve it is contradictory. If you don't like the direction the thread has gone, do something to fix it. Don't make it worse.

That being said, PB members in general seem to have a negative view of heated discussion/argument. So long as there is no outright flaming, there is nothing wrong with a thread involving argument. Arguments are a part of life, and so long as you argue respectfully and with an open mind, you might actually learn something from them. A good 25 or so posts in this thread are just requests to have it locked. From now on, do not make these types of posts. They spam the thread up. If you feel a post is flaming or out of line, use the report button. We won't lock a thread just because a few posts out of over 100 are rude.

Also keep in mind that there is a big difference between argument and flaming. An argument happens when two or more people people have a difference of opinion and argue their opinions. Flaming happens when people start arguing with each other, not with the opposite opinion. Flaming is an attack on a person, not on a person's opinion. Argument is okay, flaming is not. Only report flaming.

"No, you're wrong. Durant is a terrible deck for the game because it's incredibly easy to play and boring to play against." <-- Argument - okay.

"Well why don't you shut up and quit this game? You're so stupid you can't even see why Durant is a bad deck. Say hi to the devil when you get home." <-- Flaming - report.

*Lock*
 
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