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Foreign Trades Forum?

I support this as well, though for me I mainly am looking for merchandise. It is a pain to dig through forums trying to find sleeves only to realize the thread that has them is closed:(. The only thing that will be difficult is for people like me, who are interested in foriegn merch/cards but have none themselves, especially without traders being able to put English wants on their thread. I personally think it woule be better to list foreign haves as well as English wants.

Having a link to normal wants/tt may work, but would be inconvenient. But thats just my opinion.
 
I think a sub-forum targeted towards foreign cards would be a smart idea to help people naturally organize more, but I wouldn't be too strict about what items are or aren't allowed there. The last thing respectable users need is their perfectly good trade busted up by staff because it "wasn't done by the book."
 
THE_LORD_Of_RANGERS said:
The only thing that will be difficult is for people like me, who are interested in foriegn merch/cards but have none themselves, especially without traders being able to put English wants on their thread. I personally think it woule be better to list foreign haves as well as English wants.

Having a link to normal wants/tt may work, but would be inconvenient. But thats just my opinion.
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JEKyl said:
I think a sub-forum targeted towards foreign cards would be a smart idea to help people naturally organize more, but I wouldn't be too strict about what items are or aren't allowed there. The last thing respectable users need is their perfectly good trade busted up by staff because it "wasn't done by the book."
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And how would you prevent a member having a listing for 1 foreign card and 300 English cards?


JEKyl & SMP, would you use the forum?

Members
omahanime
konter_j8902
Darkvoid57
Javier8100
glaceon
- - 5 - -
NarcoticHobo
P0KEVORTEX
Techdeck101
aqua
Catbus
- - 10 - -
Captian Bad Kid
Artemis
pokemonjoe
richkid50000
Afro-G
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Bloop
VidFox
A_RAICHU
Unique Username
THE_LORD_Of_RANGERS
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SKIMMAH

Retired members
Rayquaza808
dragonitetim
 
After reading everyone's comments here, I feel that...

YES. I heartily approve of a sub-forum for foreign merchandise (cards, plushies, sleeves, etc).

HOWEVER, as people have noted, Wants should include English & Japanese stuffs, so we can allow trading between the sub-forum and main trade section.

ADDITIONALLY, would the main trade forum threads still include foreign stuff? i.e. would we be allowed to put foreign merch on our trade thread in the main trade section? Or would only English merchandise/cards be allowed in the main thread? (Again, Wants would include international stuffs)
 
Hikikomori-san said:
After reading everyone's comments here, I feel that...

YES. I heartily approve of a sub-forum for foreign merchandise (cards, plushies, sleeves, etc).

HOWEVER, as people have noted, Wants should include English & Japanese stuffs, so we can allow trading between the sub-forum and main trade section.

ADDITIONALLY, would the main trade forum threads still include foreign stuff? i.e. would we be allowed to put foreign merch on our trade thread in the main trade section? Or would only English merchandise/cards be allowed in the main thread? (Again, Wants would include international stuffs)
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And how would you prevent a member having a listing for 1 foreign card and 300 English cards?


Techdeck101 said:
Why are they separated? 5/10/15/20?
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5 members and the number 5
5 more members and the number 10
5 more members and the number 15
5 more members and the number 20
That is how I am keeping count.
 
Well, here's the thing.

In the main trade forum, let's say you have a trade thread with, as you said, 300 English cards and 5 Foreign cards. (5 to be more realistic than 1)

However, in the foreign sub-section, you have a thread with 5 Foreign cards.

As such, it'd be a lot easier to go to the foreign sub-section because everything's "filtered" to only Foreign cards.

I'm asking whether our main trade threads would be allowed to still have foreign merchandise, so it'd end up like somewhat like this...

Main Trades Section: A thread with 300 English cards + 5 Foreign Cards
Foreign Sub-section: A thread with 5 Foreign Cards

Would this be allowed?

If not, then really, the Main Trades Section would be limited to only English merchandise and English cards. I feel that this change should be noted.
 
Well, I agree with the sentiments expressed by most traders here. There must be at least 30+ collectors that would use this forum, since I know of a couple that still visit the Trading Corner and haven't spoken up here, and there must be a few more, not to mention possible new traders that have stayed away due to the narrow demand for foreign cards and challenge involved in finding trading partners amongst the sea of traders wanting only ENG cards. Not sure if 30 traders is enough, but seems fairly substantial to me. Frankly, I think this would get more use than the buy/sell subforums, many of which just turn into inactive threads that are bumped several times a week with no transactions.

I don't think either subforum has to be exclusive. That is, it makes sense to allow people on the Foreign card/goods subforum to trade ENG for JPN cards/good, or whatever. I can envision several traders that feel they are stuck with their now-illegal foreign cards coming onto the foreign card subforum to barter them off for some playable ENG cards. Many of us that collect foreign cards would welcome these trades, I believe.

And it seems unfair to prevent people mostly trading ENG cards from also trading away a foreign card or two on the ENG subforum.

But the new Foreign card/goods subforum would seem likely to help focus these kinds of trades and save a lot of search time for everyone.

Thanks for considering this. Hope you at least try this for a while to see if it can work!
 
I see no problem trading English cards for foreign cards. In fact, I would be willing to do it. What I don't to see happen is abuse of the rules. Would the forum be of any value if 50 members posted

Want: Pikachu illustrator card
Have: (then listed every card from their main thread)

I want an easy to understand, easy to enforce rule.
 
Eh, the more I think about this, the worse of an idea it may ultimately be in practice. In my time here, the trading forum has seemed to be a tad bit over-moderated (if nothing else because of mandated mod verification for trade threads). Adding a foreign sub-forum would just exacerbate that problem.

I guess rather than us demanding a new forum, it's instead a better solution to just take up some personal responsibility, and be better about our own listings here.
 
I'm in.
I would be interested in buying, selling and trading for Japansese merchandise, cards for the most part.
 
Am I just looking at this too simply? Wouldn't this be a subforum just like the buy subforum or sell subforum? I'm not understanding the concern about abuse. It seems like this would just be a way of partitioning the forum so that people mostly interested in trading for, or trading away foreign cards can find each other easily. It also would probably help clear some of the confusion out of the main forum, by removing many foreign card requests from the broader field of people looking to trade ENG cards. I don't see why either subforum has to be exclusive though. That said, each would probably become more focused...which would seem to be a good thing.

JEKyl, I honestly can't figure out what you're trying to say, no offense.
 
The abuse I am concerned about is if you do not forbid English product, it is going to be just like the main trade forum. How useful is 20 threads per page with 15 of them only having 1 foreign item and 300 English cards? I would not look through that, I would not expect anyone else to look through it. What is gained by having a clone of the main trade forum? The only way I see this forum having any value is exclusively foreign product. If you are looking for a foreign plush, you could go into this forum and look through exclusively foreign product, not look at 3000 English cards and 100 foreign items. You could still refer members to your main thread for working out a trade including English product.
 
I see what you are saying now. I agree with not being able to list english cards(or merch, for that matter) in either the original post or the replies. I do think, however, that asking to check the normal list should be allowed, unless specified by the owner of that thread. Otherwise trading like this will be restricted to pm's, which, if that is what you are looking for, could work as well.
 
omahanime said:
The abuse I am concerned about is if you do not forbid English product, it is going to be just like the main trade forum. How useful is 20 threads per page with 15 of them only having 1 foreign item and 300 English cards? I would not look through that, I would not expect anyone else to look through it. What is gained by having a clone of the main trade forum? The only way I see this forum having any value is exclusively foreign product. If you are looking for a foreign plush, you could go into this forum and look through exclusively foreign product, not look at 3000 English cards and 100 foreign items. You could still refer members to your main thread for working out a trade including English product.
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I see. This seems unlikely to me. True, there will be some slop-over. But, realistically, don't the vast majority of trades and lists on the main forum involve two parties seeking to exchange English cards that are legal in the modified format? Those will stay where they are and not encroach on the foreign sub-forum, it seems.

It would be different if we were trying to partition modified cards from older cards that are also printed in English. But this is really just creating a place where people interested in collecting or getting rid of foreign cards for current playing card value can come to find trading partners. Seems like a rule could be made that all trades offered or agreed to in the foreign card trading subforum have to involve a foreign card, and that should help weed out the clutter, right? Another option would be that only foreign cards available or sought after can be in the thread title. No English cards can be listed in the thread heading.

Again, I vote to at least try this for a bit. I doubt you'll see most traders in the main forum coming on to start new threads. I think you'll mostly see collectors of foreign cards starting threads, and people looking to get rid of foreign cards posting on those threads. That's just an educated guess though.
 
omahanime said:
The abuse I am concerned about is if you do not forbid English product, it is going to be just like the main trade forum. How useful is 20 threads per page with 15 of them only having 1 foreign item and 300 English cards? I would not look through that, I would not expect anyone else to look through it. What is gained by having a clone of the main trade forum? The only way I see this forum having any value is exclusively foreign product. If you are looking for a foreign plush, you could go into this forum and look through exclusively foreign product, not look at 3000 English cards and 100 foreign items. You could still refer members to your main thread for working out a trade including English product.
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How about you limit it so that you can only list Foreign cards in your HAVES section on this forum. That way it will be a forum full of people who have foreign cards to trade for your foreign cards or english or whatever. The main problem I run into when trying to find foreign cards is people have them listed as wants only.

If you don't have foreign cards available for trade then you should not be allowed to trade on the foreign forum.

Wants could still include english cards as far as I'm concerned though, doesn't seem like that would be much of an issue.

Also omahanime, I really think the best course here would be to create a forum and put it on probation so to speak. Let it go for a month or two and if it ends up just being a waste of space then remove it.
 
I'm going to have to drop out of this idea. Nothing has been happening, so I'm kind of confused as to why this was even made if nothing happened
 
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