Internet Piracy

Card Slinger J said:
When you're talking about DS Piracy, are you refferring to Wi-Fi Trades and Battle Requests like on this site or on Serebii.net for instance?

All of my what.

/me facehoofs

This site doesn't allow for wi-fi trades and battle requests on the chat, but that doesn't make it piracy. Piracy is taking published content, such as a movie, and posting it onto the internet for free use. As Zy pointed out, DS piracy involves roms and emulators, where people take a game and modify it for computer use through roms and emulators.
 
Ah okay, "DS" meaning "Downloadable Software" Piracy. :rolleyes:

I thought you meant DS in terms of "Nintendo DS". Okay I get it now...
 
Oh, because asking for a trade which is made possible by a system Nintendo set up and sold to you personally is deemed piracy because giving them money means you can't use any of the features of the item you bought. That makes perfect sense.
 
Zyflair said:
I would reply, but your response is so vague, I'm not even sure if you understood my post.

This shows that you can't see what is going on here. If you vote for it we are basically screwed and we could loose this site among millions more site. So you are saying you want Pokebeach to shut down, Am I correct? If you say yes to this you are showing us that you don't care and are willing to let it pass so we will loose most of the sites we visit now. This will eventually happen if you vote for this. Do you not see what we are talking about here? Or even cosidered that there is a chance we will loose this site if it passes? From the way you just posted it shows that you don't care if this site stays or not. Just saying here that is what will happen if you say yes to this

Didn't say I did not warn you man.:(
 
I'm pretty sure we've established that if the bill passes, PokéBeach is not going anywhere. There is no form of piracy that we can be accused of.
 
xxashxx said:
This shows that you can't see what is going on here. If you vote for it we are basically screwed and we could loose this site among millions more site. So you are saying you want Pokebeach to shut down, Am I correct? If you say yes to this you are showing us that you don't care and are willing to let it pass so we will loose most of the sites we visit now. This will eventually happen if you vote for this. Do you not see what we are talking about here? Or even cosidered that there is a chance we will loose this site if it passes? From the way you just posted it shows that you don't care if this site stays or not. Just saying here that is what will happen if you say yes to this

Didn't say I did not warn you man.:(

I'm sorry but....what?

Zyflair said:
I'm pretty sure we've established that if the bill passes, PokéBeach is not going anywhere. There is no form of piracy that we can be accused of.

^This.
 
This thread... oh my...

PokeBeach.com has done nothing that could, under any current circumstances, be considered a form of piracy. Those TCG scans? People buy the cards, and scan use them using their scanners. The translated Japanese scans? As far as I can tell, Toho bought the cards and put them up for auction. What's wrong with that? Absolutely nothing.

There was a legal scare last year with the release of Black and White in Japan, something to this day I still don't understand. But in the 5+ years that PokeBeach has been around, that has been the only time, as far as I know, that Nintendo has taken legal action against PokeBeach. The rest of the time, they're busy counting their money.

Zyflair said:
I'm pretty sure we've established that if the bill passes, PokéBeach is not going anywhere. There is no form of piracy that we can be accused of.
So yeah, this.
 
Well I just recently posted a thread on Serebii.net whether or not If their site promotes Internet Piracy and the owner of the website told me this:

Serebii said:
No, we don't promote or support internet piracy. Whenever anyone posts anything that is in regards to piracy, we ban them. We have a zero tolerance policy.

If you think the U.S. Government isn't dictating on Internet Content like China and Iran with SOPA, think again. They're censoring material, even if it falls under protection by Fair Use and the First Amendment. And once you do delete domain names - I repeat, this bill will give the corporations the power to do this. Because everyone wants big businesses having MORE power, right? - where do you stop? The government have the right to seize and delete domain names in the name of "legality". How long before these powers are put to use censoring journalists? Give them an inch, they'll take a mile.

Pulling an entire site from the web is going to be the easiest solution - Facebook, YouTube, Twitter and Tumblr would have to look through EVERY POST MADE SINCE THEIR SITES WENT ONLINE to make sure none of the posts made could get them or their users sued. They wouldn't have the time to do so, so it would be easier to just pull the material.

Serebii is a British website, its servers are based in the UK, making it a foreign website. It heavily features copyrighted material because it's a fan site. Nintendo or its American branch can make a claim of copyright infringement and all those claims piling up would give the impression to the site's advertisers that the website is criminal when it is not. It doesn't matter if nothing comes of it. All it takes is someone to cry wolf and Serebii would be placed on a blacklist.

The National Defense Authorization Act for 2012 was passed, giving the government the right to detain terrorism suspects, including Americans, indefinitely, without trial. The US seems to be moving towards a dictatorship the more you look at it.
 
I have an easier solution: Get rid of the whole dang Internet.

I mean, when you really think about it, the only way to shut up both groups is through pure nihilistic action. There are these great things called "CD's" and "Stereos." Heck, if you really searched, you could find these things called, "Walkmans." They're great for portable listening. Also on the cutting edge of technology are these things called libraries. Now, the idea sounds Farfetch'd, but you can actually go there, and read stuff in things called books!! Oh the wonder of classical technology!

Obviously, the above is a joke, but when you really think about it, would losing the internet really that bad of an outcome? You'll survive without your Netflix and your Facebook. And Pokemon will go back to the good old days when you didn't know what the heck a Scyther was, and if you wanted detailed information, you would go out and buy guides. I still buy guides actually. It's honestly much more handy than having to go on a computer, and locate it.
 
Boddy903 said:
I have an easier solution: Get rid of the whole dang Internet.

I mean, when you really think about it, the only way to shut up both groups is through pure nihilistic action. There are these great things called "CD's" and "Stereos." Heck, if you really searched, you could find these things called, "Walkmans." They're great for portable listening. Also on the cutting edge of technology are these things called libraries. Now, the idea sounds Farfetch'd, but you can actually go there, and read stuff in things called books!! Oh the wonder of classical technology!

Obviously, the above is a joke, but when you really think about it, would losing the internet really that bad of an outcome? You'll survive without your Netflix and your Facebook. And Pokemon will go back to the good old days when you didn't know what the heck a Scyther was, and if you wanted detailed information, you would go out and buy guides. I still buy guides actually. It's honestly much more handy than having to go on a computer, and locate it.

Well first of all, you cannot simply "get ri... you know what somebody else take this.

Second paragraph, um, you know, I don't know how to respond to this one either.
 
Starboard Driger said:
Well first of all, you cannot simply "get ri... you know what somebody else take this.

Second paragraph, um, you know, I don't know how to respond to this one either.
So you made a post to say that you doesn't know what to say.
 
Boddy903 said:
I have an easier solution: Get rid of the whole dang Internet.

I mean, when you really think about it, the only way to shut up both groups is through pure nihilistic action. There are these great things called "CD's" and "Stereos." Heck, if you really searched, you could find these things called, "Walkmans." They're great for portable listening. Also on the cutting edge of technology are these things called libraries. Now, the idea sounds Farfetch'd, but you can actually go there, and read stuff in things called books!! Oh the wonder of classical technology!

Getting rid of the whole Internet doesn't solve any problems, it only makes more problems. By getting rid of the Internet that would strip EVERYONE of their freedom of speech online, stripping people of utilizing on e-commerce like eBay and Amazon.com, and much more. This is censorship to the highest degree, If SOPA passes then it would have dire consequences to not just the global economy but it would also ruin the lives of everyday people such as myself.

Boddy903 said:
Obviously, the above is a joke, but when you really think about it, would losing the internet really that bad of an outcome? You'll survive without your Netflix and your Facebook. And Pokemon will go back to the good old days when you didn't know what the heck a Scyther was, and if you wanted detailed information, you would go out and buy guides. I still buy guides actually. It's honestly much more handy than having to go on a computer, and locate it.

Pokemon going back to the good old days? You do realize the Pokemon franchise itself among millions of other franchises would die because of SOPA right? This bill negatively effects the Entertainment Industry to where it favors Hollywood and the Mainstream Music Industry more, heck this bill does more than that. Sure I understand that Online Piracy has put a major toll on the U.S Economy but this bill is allowing the U.S. Government to dictate our lives by blacklisting websites that are deemed illegal or If Servers are located outside the U.S., SOPA doesn't even need the use of a court of law or trial to do it. This just proves how dangerous it really is.

Next time why don't you put your money where your mouth is and realize that with the way society is nowadays people don't want to go back to the way society was where we were stuck with limited resources. I know technology shouldn't go too far but come on, the Internet has vastly improved society and has ushered an Information Age that was the best thing to happen to us in years. If you don't like how people use the Internet for success, business, or even for video gaming why don't you go get a time machine and travel back to the 90's before everyone didn't have PC's and laptop computers almost everywhere they went. Sure I loved the 90's growing up as a kid but I compare the technology we have now to then and we have more options now to enjoy ourselves than ever.

Let's pretend that SOPA is Iran and the Internet is Israel, now who would you support? I mean really. SOPA is like a nuclear warhead aiming straight toward the Internet and unless we do something to defend our freedoms and stop it from ruining society as we know it then it would allow too much control for the U.S. Government. It's bad enough that NDAA for 2012 recently passed which allows the U.S. Government to detain terrorists and U.S. civilians without a court of law or trial and unless we appeal NDAA then the U.S. might head down the road to a fascist dictatorship the likes we haven't seen since the Nazi Regime during WWII.

I found some more links against SOPA and PROTECT IP, I urge EVERYONE to view these links and fight back! Here are some videos you should watch that are informative.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDX8Lyl16Qs&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhwuXNv8fJM&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=f-hpgI0XFSg

WHAT CAN YOU DO TO HELP? Here’s some links I found for various petitions. Please check out each of these.

http://americancensorship.org/
http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/pipa_sopa
http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/protectip_docs
http://act.boldprogressives.org/survey/survey_sopa_reddit/?source=bp
http://keepthewebopen.com/
http://campaigns.dailykos.com/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=53
https://action.eff.org/o/9042/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=8173
http://www.avaaz.org/en/save_the_internet/?wLKMocb

http://www.house.gov/ (Enter your zipcode to find your representative)

Here’s a petition to get the bill vetoed! Create an account and sign this!

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/veto-sopa-bill-and-any-other-future-bills-threaten-diminish-free-flow-information/g3W1BscR

These two bills (SOPA and PIPA) both enjoy overwhelming support from Democrats and Republicans in Congress alike, and Obama has already said he would not veto these. Obama said he might consider vetoing NDAA but that's because he thinks it doesn't give him enough power, not because he is opposed to the idea of detaining anyone he wants indefinitely.
 
Well the Pokemon franchise would still be alive in Japan but everywhere else around the world it would die If SOPA and PROTECT IP passes. Here is the reason why SOPA and PROTECT IP are very hard bills to kill (no pun intended):

http://www.opencongress.org/articles/view/2434-Why-SOPA-and-PROTECT-IP-Are-So-Hard-to-Kill

See despite that these bills are targeted specifically at foreign websites devoted to copyright infringement. You do realize that there are alot of websites that people go to that are under foreign servers especially in the UK or in Canada that still have English text in them. Those sites would get blacklisted by the Government possibly without notice, due process, or a court of law.

Japan is also closely associated with the Video Game Industry especially Anime/Manga and with their servers and such cutting them off because it's from a foreign server is going to cause a major disconnect with people in the U.S. and possibly around the world even. This is part of the reason why these bills hurt innovation and creativity.

I did overhear that a 12 year old girl got taken to court by one of the companies supporting this bill for sharing copyrighted music. Talk about crazy...
 
I haven't read the whole first post, but I think that they are crazy to even try and pass the bill. First of all, we have a Check and Balances branch, which ensures that no branch gets too much power. If a branch tries to pass a bill, that bill has to go through the Judical branch before going to the Senate branch. If, for example, three out of four approves, then the bill goes to the President. The President then has the decison to approve or veto the bill. So the bill has a long way to go before meeting the President before it can be passed.

But if the bill gets passed, then it will wreak havoc across the world. Of course I'm not talking about riots or anything, but these people who have worked hard on their website will be very angry once their website gets erased. They will probably look for websites that protest against the bill, and then find the location where the protests are taking place. They might go to that protest march, and it would only cause more problems by blocking streets and highways and the protesters could even turn into a angry mob, hurting a lot of people in the mob's way. Japan has created a English website and worked hard on the Pokemon website. They might go and start World War all over again.

...at least, that's my view of the future if the bill gets passed. Good luck trying to prevent the bill from passing. :(
 
Well I for one think it's sad that these bills aren't getting as much exposure in the mainstream news media lately, you want to know why? They are getting paid by corporations backing these bills to keep their mouths shut in order to get them passed. Msnbc made only one referrence to SOPA and that was from the Twitter outbreak from last week.

What perfect way than to use the Holidays as a way to distract people so that they can push these bills into law? There's so much bipartisan support going for SOPA and Protect IP and it's going to be very difficult for it to get shot down. They already got away with it with NDAA, and Obama has considered a veto against it but only because it doesn't give him enough power in office. It's not that it threaten's to detain U.S. Citizens.

I got recent word from Anonymous that SOPA passed despite the Official Petition against it that raised 25,000 votes. So yeah, here's the video explaining it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeEcoi8kEuU&feature=player_embedded#!

Protect IP is still scheduled for a vote next year on January 1st.

Also Cable News is finally realizing that SOPA and PROTECT IP are bad:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111216/17580817113/cable-news-finally-realizing-that-sopa-protect-ip-are-bad-news.shtml
 
Well it turns out that SOPA is being postponed until Congress gets done with their Winter Recess. Still I wouldn't drop my guard on this just yet, they might still have secret hearings about it to get it to pass today so stay vigilant!

I'll see how things are going when I get back from work today, I'll tell ya it was a pain busting my butt on Tuesday surfing through forum after forum spreading the word on SOPA and Protect IP but it was worth it regardless If I got banned for trolling. I learned the hard way on Pojo, luckily for me my ban on their forums is only for 3 days being temporary.

I would've posted more about these bills on Facebook but I don't trust them since the U.S. Government might use it as a "Big Brother" fiasco to keep an eye on us. I do like Twitter since it can be a very reliable source sometimes, and I've already spread the word on YouTube about it as well under User's Channel Comments.

peer said:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/mythbusters/articles/mythbuster-adam-savage-sopa-could-destroy-the-internet-as-we-know-it-6620300

Yeah I saw that while I was surfing on Google last night, I didn't realize it was Adam Savage at first. I still feel bad for him and the other MythBusters about that Cannonball accident though, hopefully them and the homeowners got things settled and all. Haven't really been watching Mythbusters that much nowadays since Pawn Stars seemed to be higher in TV Ratings, maybe it's just me though.

If SOPA and Protect IP doesn't get passed through Congress, there's 2 other bills of legislation that the U.S. Government is trying to push on through into law known as the OPEN Act (Online Protection and Enforcement of Digital Trade Act) and Bill S.978 (the Commercial Felony Streaming Act).
 
Forbes reported that Anonymous has obtained and released the "docs" --address and phone number--of the gentleman responsible for SOPA. Lamar Smith is his name.

Oh here's an interesting video I found on YouTube regarding SOPA, Send this video to your Government Officials!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc&feature=share

I also got some more news, it turns out GoDaddy.com CEO Bob Parsons not only shows support for SOPA but he also killed elephants in Africa and recorded the videos of it as well. More info on the below link (the one not in my current signature):

http://pastebin.com/uwdAubtD

CBS, CNET, Viacon are the #1 supporters of SOPA, crazy as it sounds we still need to get this information out to our Government Officials and Congressmen:

http://www.filmon.com/cbsyousuck/
 
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