Is Pokémon No Longer Respected as a Card Game?

In general, the most the Pokemon community will have here in my area is stupidity and whiners. There's really rarely to no case of theft of cards and the like. We play for the fun of the game and possibly bragging rights. I've heard countless cases of theft in YGO in my area though. The community of Pokemon players here are the ones that deserve respect.
 
Oh and I think Nintendo and TCPI do scholarships because, you are never too old to get a degree (or new degree). AND they don't want money greedy people to play, just solely for money prizes alone. Just my opinion, but that is the main reason Yugioh or magic players can be nasty. They are only about money and not the fun of the game. There are many great magic and yugi players that love the series itself far more then money, and are polite, but I am talking about the shady not-so-nice players.
This is why Pokemon does not offer cash prizes at tournaments.
 
On the packaging:

MTG is for ages 13 and up

Pokemon is for ages 10 and up

Yugioh is for ages 6 and up

WoW TCG is for ages 15 and up

CF vanguard is for ages 9 and up

Kaijudo is for ages 8 and up.


I don't think the ages reflect the difficulty of the games. I find YGO more complicated to master, but yet, the recommended age is the lowest. I find Pokemon TCG easier to learn, because it has less text to read, and yet, the recommended age of entry is higher than that of Cardfight Vanguard and Kaijudo. It isn't to say that kids under 10 don't play Pokemon TCG though.
 
DNA said:
Oh and I think Nintendo and TCPI do scholarships because, you are never too old to get a degree (or new degree). AND they don't want money greedy people to play, just solely for money prizes alone. Just my opinion, but that is the main reason Yugioh or magic players can be nasty. They are only about money and not the fun of the game. There are many great magic and yugi players that love the series itself far more then money, and are polite, but I am talking about the shady not-so-nice players.
This is why Pokemon does not offer cash prizes at tournaments.

Congraduations on winning this really big torunament; here's a prize you have no use for! Stupid scholarships... I also wasn't aware they still offer scholarships; I thought they quit doing that.
 
I thought they quit that too. Apparently they didn't. At least a scholarship does have some use.
 
Well if you dont plan to go to college, or back to college, I think they let you give it to your child or beneficiary if you choose.
 
Mora said:
Congraduations on winning this really big torunament; here's a prize you have no use for! Stupid scholarships... I also wasn't aware they still offer scholarships; I thought they quit doing that.

Pokemon Scholarship Awards FAQ said:
Can I Transfer My Scholarship?

Yes. You can transfer all, but not less than all, of your award to any person that you choose so long as that person agrees to follow the terms of the Program.

Can my Transferee Further Transfer the Scholarship?

No. Only the winner can transfer the scholarship, and the winner can only make one transfer of all, but not less than all, of the award.
You can just as easily help someone you are related to or someone you know that needs it more then yourself.
 
Binx345 said:
Well if you dont plan to go to college, or back to college, I think they let you give it to your child or beneficiary if you choose.
^

I can confirm this. A guy I know has won the scholarship award several times (I think 4), and he gave at least 2 away, keeping at least 1 for himself when he goes off to college.
 
Riskbreakers said:
Genwunners are stupid. Plain and simple.

Respect the franchise as a whole, not as a segment.

It's not that Genwunners are stupid, it's that they're too blinded by nostalgia of the Pokemon franchise to the point where they won't accept any kind of change to Pokemon whether it be positive or negative. I'll admit Gen IV and Gen V might not be as memorable as Gen I, Gen II, and Gen III but it takes a long while before novelty becomes nostalgia, even Yu-Gi-Oh! at one point was novelty until it became nostalgic nowadays. Just because Yu-Gi-Oh! made the Guinness World Book of Records as the world's best selling TCG doesn't necessarily make it the best TCG of all time, quantity doesn't always equal quality.

When it comes to new franchises that is similar to old franchises that have great nostalgic value like Yu-Gi-Oh! for example, alot of times people won't allow that novelty to expand and grow into becoming nostalgic because they fear that their old favorite franchises will stop being relevant when that's not the case at all. I think that's part of the reason why many Yu-Gi-Oh! players might be afraid to get into Cardfight!! Vanguard which will take a long while for it's novelty to wear off If people actually give it a chance like they did with Yu-Gi-Oh!.

Perhaps Genwunners feel that everything with Pokemon after Gen III didn't have the same impact on pop culture outside Japan as the first three generations of Pokemon did. The Pokemon English Dub after 4Kids was lackluster with average TV ratings, there's no more theatrical releases of the Pokemon movies anymore, Pokemon merchandising has drastically declined at various popular restaurants in North America especially in other venues, to the point where you hardly hear much about the franchise itself except for in the video games and the TCG while the English Dub continues to decline while the Sub is still huge in Japan. Pokemon has never lost it's "fad status" in Japan like it did outside the country where you have Pokemon Centers across the country that sells all sorts of Pokemon merchandise.
 
I personally find a scholarship to be a lousy award. What if you don't plan on going to school and are let's say 24 years old? Sit on the scholarship money for 10+ years until/IF you have a child who goes to university/college 18 years later? You might as well invest the money you spent on cards and travel and let it grow for 28 years and you will be almost in the same place financially and there is no risk/chance involved. But I digress...

I'm not saying make it straight cash, but the kiddy factor of pokemon will never be lifted if the award isn't varied or an option. I mean even a vacation would be a better award possibly.

I know people who sold their scholarships for money so I guess that's a possibility.
 
Man. Reading through this thread, I really do wish I was still in the game. But then I see all the EXes, and the Catchers, Lasers, Hammers... It just sucks any want to play anymore.

Call it it's own form of "genwunnerism" (Like the word, haha), but personally, I can't help but blame the lame format for others losing interest. The old EX format was a blast. The SP format, even though they did dominate, was again, a blast. Then the HGSS format was a blast. The BW format? Noooot so much.

If anyone here plays MOBA games, a nice comparison would be the EX format being all about the Crowd Control, where you wanted to catch opponents off-guard for their EXes; The SP format was a lot like a more poke-filled environment, where everything constantly had some damage on it before being healed off, and the HGSS format was a nice balance of crowd control, poke, burst. Black and White is basically burst only, all day erryday. (Even with Catcher, which you'd expect to make a fun, crowd control environment again.) Though this is probably my nerdstalgia speaking, so...

I miss the game, but looking at it's current state it's pretty easy to decide, "Well... Maybe not."
 
SotS said:
Man. Reading through this thread, I really do wish I was still in the game. But then I see all the EXes, and the Catchers, Lasers, Hammers... It just sucks any want to play anymore.

Call it it's own form of "genwunnerism" (Like the word, haha), but personally, I can't help but blame the lame format for others losing interest. The old EX format was a blast. The SP format, even though they did dominate, was again, a blast. Then the HGSS format was a blast. The BW format? Noooot so much.

The sad part is that BW-On/NXD-On had the potential to be just like the old EX format where you had Stage 1 and Stage 2 Evolutions that were EX's instead of exclusively being Basics with high HP like we do now. Like DNA mentioned earlier, P!P dumbed down the TCG quite a bit with the Rare Candy errata, unecessary changes to the 1st turn rules, and having to discard your Supporter right after playing it instead of keeping it in play til the end of turn. The Pokemon TCG is much more luck based now than it was 5-6 years ago when it was more balanced.

Pokemon TCG has gotten way too fast but not as fast as Yu-Gi-Oh! right now in terms of gameplay, whatever happened to the days when you could setup a field to establish board presence and control with Stage 1 and Stage 2 bench sitters? Those days are long gone no thanks to Pokemon Catcher and Big Basics dominating the current format although it's sort of made a comeback with Blastoise/Keldeo, GothLock, and I like what Empoleon has to offer as a Stage 2 in this format. So not all hope is lost, I think the Pokemon TCG is slowly getting back to being the skill oriented TCG it once was 5-6 years ago, hopefully X and Y will be the light at the end of this tunnel of a format we're in.
 
Compared to all the other card games that have OTK's (One Turn KOs), Pokemon is a lot more fun and in-depth in my opinion.

The others get boring, fast, especially once you've made an overpowered Deck.

I also like how Pokemon differs from other TCGs, by the whole "Prize Cards" concept.
 
Sheriff_K said:
Compared to all the other card games that have OTK's (One Turn KOs), Pokemon is a lot more fun and in-depth in my opinion.

The others get boring, fast, especially once you've made an overpowered Deck.

I also like how Pokemon differs from other TCGs, by the whole "Prize Cards" concept.

Overpowered decks exist in pokemon as well.

At the start of this format, Tornadus EX was a donking machine against Tynamo.

Now we have Thundurus EX doing a what, an average of 60-70 damage a turn with lasers or even 100 damage + sleep + energy back from discard on turn 1? Not over powered at all when you start piplup or any other stage 2 deck -_-
 
bagoly14 said:
Sheriff_K said:
Compared to all the other card games that have OTK's (One Turn KOs), Pokemon is a lot more fun and in-depth in my opinion.

The others get boring, fast, especially once you've made an overpowered Deck.

I also like how Pokemon differs from other TCGs, by the whole "Prize Cards" concept.

Overpowered decks exist in pokemon as well.

At the start of this format, Tornadus EX was a donking machine against Tynamo.

Now we have Thundurus EX doing a what, an average of 60-70 damage a turn with lasers or even 100 damage + sleep + energy back from discard on turn 1? Not over powered at all when you start piplup or any other stage 2 deck -_-

Though it is a bit better than frequent 120-130 damage starts with ZPST. :p
 
Well hey, at least Pokemon games last ten turns. You could probably play three YGO games in the time it takes to finish one Pokemon game.
 
Has pokemon ever been respected as a card game?
Normaly (where I live) people start wiht pokemon, move to yugioh and then to Magick. After Magick happens the funny part: people start playin pokemon again :D Personally I started with yugioh and them moved fully into pokemon because it's jus so much more umh... calmer(?) as you can't do anything on the other player's turn.
 
Riskbreakers said:
Well hey, at least Pokemon games last ten turns. You could probably play three YGO games in the time it takes to finish one Pokemon game.

Though I think the close YGO games are much more fun to play (and watch) than the close Pokemon games. I have a few stories to share in that regard and I can attest to that.
 
DNA said:
Riskbreakers said:
Well hey, at least Pokemon games last ten turns. You could probably play three YGO games in the time it takes to finish one Pokemon game.

Though I think the close YGO games are much more fun to play (and watch) than the close Pokemon games. I have a few stories to share in that regard and I can attest to that.

I remember when MTG first came out, people take hours just to finish one game. It isn't the case today though.
 
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