Let's Do the 7th Generation

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Akwila and I have been working on the water spider and the regional bugs; since we have the spiders ready for review, we bring them here:

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Spubble (spider + bubble) is headless for the moment, so suggestions in that front are welcome, and I sure as hell won't spend another hour looking at pictures of spiders.

Spubble is based on the fishing spider, a spider that can walk on water, and it does this, too:

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Want some?

We haven't agreed in the name for the evolution.
I like Silvellive more (silk+silver+bell+dive) because it has that nice alliteration with Spubble, while akwila prefers Airachneta (air+arachnid+trachea+net+neta (greek, "spinner of silver")).

The evolution is based on a diving bell spider, which spends its entire life underwater, in nests full of oxygen spun form its web:

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Yes, that sticky thing you step onto on that nice lake.

It also keeps air bubbles in its hairs which give it a silvery look, like it's covered in mercury, that was our intention with the abdomen, only with oversized, cartoony bubbles.

So that's pretty much it,unless akwila wants to add something. He did the moveset, I just cleaned it up a little and added a couple of things.

We gave it a new ability too, Aqualung (bonus points if you catch the reference) raises speed by two levels if the pokemon is hit by a water type attack, and negates the damage. So, you know, you can consider it for your projects too.

Oh, the last 4 legs of spubble became the 4 claws that the evolution uses to hold the bubbles that cover it (hence the high defense). A non relevant (for battle purposes) fact is that the spider can release the bubbles in its lair and harvest more with its claws, it can also consume the bubbles to get oxygen in the water.
 
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Haunted Water said:
Nope.
I will not help with the specimen of nope.
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Think of it this way. I had to do the reaserch.

Also, Silvellive has silver shades, that's pretty swanky. Beneath them it looks a little goofy, though.

EDIT: updated the image with a better version of Spubble, With head this time. The bubbles are now foam, and it has little goggles, that become a diving mask on evolution.
 
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Spubble can have bubble head. Instead of random numbers/shape of bubble. Just make the buble shaping his head, abdomen, and all, then small bubbles around it.

I edit my post. I forget I can't do anything at home since my evil cousins come for Chinese New Year.

Also, bubbles in Silvellive are too much. Lessen it little bit and it will look better, imo.
 
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I hope you guys are planning to make maps too. I mean both region maps and actual mockup "in game" maps. And if you plan on making an actual game (and from what I understand, you don't) that'd be even better.

This 7th generation wouldn't be complete without maps.

Oh and none of that 3d nonsense either. 2d oblique view is best mapping, ever.

I'd even be happy to contribute some maps if you are unsure about it (and don't call me out for not reading the entire thread about whether or not you're doing it or not, there's a lot of posts and I'm not that crazy)
 
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Nod3, I'm thinking that professorlight will let you work on maps if you really want to. Maybe you can recruit people. The only problem is that we were only doing Pokemon at first. You may have to sweet talk persuade him.

Also, that water-spider Pokemon looks great! I also love the stats for it. I think it's perfect. I like that unique ability, too.
 
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I do like the Spiders.
If you're going to call him Airarchneta and follow the whole idea of having him hold giant bubbles, I'd love to see him get at least Air Slash and/or Hurricane.
 
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So, I finally came to a conclusion on what my "Gimmicky inverted type match up" 'mon would be.
I must say it came a very long way.

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TM 27/91/92 Return, Flash Cannon and Trick Room can also be taught.

Naturally, it isn't the finished product. But, it's here for the good ol' criticism. Good, bad, whatever it may be, lay it on me. That's how improvements are made after all.
The stats are about the only thing I'm not too sure on. I'm working on it because it's difficult to lay out without it being extremely over powered.
 
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A Normal type alien machine?
Why not Psychic/Steel? It could follow the whole idea of aliens being more advanced then us.
 
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I see you based it on a common depiction of viruses, good call. I'm not sold out on the whole jetsons thing you have going on up there, though; remember that porygon is really simple, just two colors, some prisms and done.
You are definitely on the right track by making it eyeless, and in the lower portion too, those spiky legs make it look positively eerie.
For the colors you could use the spectrum opposites of porygon, for pink and teal I think they are green (pink) and orange (teal).

As for the moves, maybe it would be easier in this case to make a basic list of all it needs to learn, say:

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antithesis field
1 ghost move: shadow ball
1 grass move: energy ball
1 fire move: flamethrower
1 steel move: flash cannon
and so on, keep the minimum moves on the 80-90 power range, so it doesn't get too OP.

Once you have that minimum list ready, you decide which ones can be learned by TM, which ones by level (for example, you could give it power gem by level up, since all rock TMs are physical) and add some more TMs and level up moves, now sure you can get all that you need.

The idea here is not that of an alien, keeper, is that of a computer virus that can change how the attacks affect it... like an evil porygon counterpart. (also, a computer virus pokemon that changes the very game mechanics is so meta I can't even describe it).
 
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Keeper of Night said:
I was going by design, not by competitive use. It looks like a machine.
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Me too. But that's the point, it shouldn't look like a machine. When moose told me he was thinking on making it a parallel porygon Z I put two and two together and I told him about making a parallel porygon. A computer virus. Taking literally the virus part, and using porygon as reference.
 
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Porygon isn't really a living thing though. Being created by humans with the most simple design possible, it makes sense to be the simplest type.

So, I guess the question is, was the virus artificially created? Or did it come into existence from certain events taking place?
I just realized we already had a space virus pokemon though, so I'm all for it being Normal type.
 
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Keeper of Night said:
Porygon isn't really a living thing though. Being created by humans with the not simple design possible, it makes sense to be the simplest type.

So, I guess the question is, was the virus artificially created? Or did it come into existence from certain events taking place?
I just realized we already had a space virus pokemon though, so I'm all for it being Normal type.
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Normal made sense for the abilty... even with the ability active, everything would hit neutral (and fighting at 0.5x) and you could use the conversions to adjust the matchups and STABs as you please, and if we go with it as another porygon-type pokemon, the argument for normal just gets stronger.

For reference, guys, I think this is what moose used as inspiration for the overall shape:

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See the resemblance?
 
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Just throwing this out there, but this seems like an anti-Porygon. Like a pokemon that came to life with the leftover data or something.
If it weren't for the ability, I'd say make it Normal/Ghost type.
Actually, I'll say it anyway. It should be Normal/Ghost type.
 
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Maybe it came into being as the result of Porygon's creation. Yes, I'm talking about a successful experiment with a side effect. Two Pokemon created, one put out in the Pokemon world, the other made inactive for a long time..but, in the future, it awakens.

*Just offering an explanation to the Porygon-esque situation*
 
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Or maybe one of the developers chose to be a [diminutive of richard] (HA! take that, censor!).

Seriously now, there can be a thousand different ways for this artificial computer virus pokemon to come into existence; maybe someone snuck a virus into the machine that builds porygons into the world, or it infected it alone; or the rocket stole the porygon data during their takeover of silph back in RBY; or some teenager hacked into their mainframe using Visual basic's UI with a protocol of "stop making shit up hollywood" and built it for the lols or wathever you kids say it these days; or a rogue scientist did it (rogue scientists are always en vogue); or the technology was leaked on the black market, or it's the "bug" that corruped porygon Z's data, causing its nonexistant neck; or it was the .bak file of porygon's original debug (and my favorite, with the "infected the computer and produced lots of copies").

As I said, thousands of explanations.
 
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Keeper of Night said:
Just throwing this out there, but this seems like an anti-Porygon. Like a pokemon that came to life with the leftover data or something.
If it weren't for the ability, I'd say make it Normal/Ghost type.
Actually, I'll say it anyway. It should be Normal/Ghost type.
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Normal/Ghost makes a lot of sense. They (viruses) are apart of every day life, and without them we would probably die, and with too many would probably die, again. The are invisible (due to size, but stay with me on this) but can have very real and very noticeable affects.
 
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Akwila said:
Keeper of Night said:
Just throwing this out there, but this seems like an anti-Porygon. Like a pokemon that came to life with the leftover data or something.
If it weren't for the ability, I'd say make it Normal/Ghost type.
Actually, I'll say it anyway. It should be Normal/Ghost type.
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Normal/Ghost makes a lot of sense. They (viruses) are apart of every day life, and without them we would probably die, and with too many would probably die, again. The are invisible (due to size, but stay with me on this) but can have very real and very noticeable affects.
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I think you are thinking of bacteria. The only good thing viruses do is... nothing, actually. They just kill indiscriminately, are not sentient (some say they are not actaully alive, even) and don't help anyone.

How does ghost fits to it, then? ghost is something supernatural, not viruses...
 
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Actually no,

Engineered viruses are used to treat a plethora of diseases because they can be easily recoded, and specifically designed. Because they don't have very complicated systems (and are not living by definition), they can used as modern day nanites (microscopic robots) to carry out very simple tasks, enmasse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAsPupfqOJw

And for most of human history, viruses/viral diseases were indeed considered supernatural. This is where we get the romantic word for Influenza as it was thought the sickness was caused by the influence of the stars or cosmic powers.

https://www.google.com/search?q=influenza&oq=influenza&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.1953j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8#q=influenza+etymology&safe=off&spell=1

I actually studied, at length parasitology and virology in highschool. I know that doesn't really say much but, I was trying to base my senior thesis in a scientific study that showed and reconciled both theories that homosexuality is both genetic AND environment in humans (and possibly other vertebrates). Scrictly speaking, because a virus infects cells with new DNA and RNA combinations, they can and do create new combinations that are not your own and some times, make combination that are not even human. For instance, if you were to ENTIRELY sequence every single allele in your body (assuming you are under the age of 35), you would about >5% not human (even if the tissues you sampled were all biologically yours). This is why in some cases of identical twins one twin may develop freckles or moles, or different hair color, or even something as innocuous as being left handed while the other twin is right handed.


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Omg... I just nerd-gasmed all over this thread...
 
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