Finished Mafia LVIII: Project Fusion- GAME OVER: Mafia Wins!
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Addition: Why wouldn't I see Nick and Zone as more town than Naga? I'm p sure I made it clear, and I'm not alone in thinking, that Naga is incredibly sus right now.
I can't know about Morda's flip; that's why I'm waiting for it. Sorry if that's unhelpful, but I really can't predict that, I don't know what's more likely. If Naga's not Morda's scumbuddy, if Morda were to flip scum, then it would likely be Celever, from process of elimination (not Nick or Zone, and you've been pressuring him a bit harder than Cel has) but that's incredibly unlikely. If Morda's scum, Naga's almost definitely his scumbuddy.
Why couldn't Zone be morda's scumbuddy? If Zone is scum, I feel like morda is in the exact spot he'd treat a buddy based on the way I've seen him treat buddies and bussing in the past (he likes softly pushing/distancing from them but not gunning to lynch them (unless they've become totally useless)).
@mordacazir , where are you?
@mordacazir has been modkilled
He was:
You are Lance and you are aligned with The Pokemon Trainers. You are the leader of the group. Your Absol has helped you to discover all the places that were about to be attacked by the fused Pokemon, but you always got too late. This is pointless.. You had to have a better plan to put an end to this chaos. So you decided to recruit every Pokemon trainer you can find with a Pokemon that can Mega evolve. That way, once you find the keystones, you will be able to finish this madness.
Pokemon:Absol
Active Ability: Dark Prophecy
Each night you may choose this ability. If you do, a public message will be sent by the host revealing a real ability in the game or a part of it.
Active Ability: Magic Bounce
Each day you may choose a player. If you do, during the following night, you will receive a letter telling you something about one of that player’s abilities.
Win Condition: Eliminate all Project Fusion members.
There are 6 players alive
majority is 4
Day 2 ends in 20 hours
He was:
You are Lance and you are aligned with The Pokemon Trainers. You are the leader of the group. Your Absol has helped you to discover all the places that were about to be attacked by the fused Pokemon, but you always got too late. This is pointless.. You had to have a better plan to put an end to this chaos. So you decided to recruit every Pokemon trainer you can find with a Pokemon that can Mega evolve. That way, once you find the keystones, you will be able to finish this madness.
Pokemon:Absol
Active Ability: Dark Prophecy
Each night you may choose this ability. If you do, a public message will be sent by the host revealing a real ability in the game or a part of it.
Active Ability: Magic Bounce
Each day you may choose a player. If you do, during the following night, you will receive a letter telling you something about one of that player’s abilities.
Win Condition: Eliminate all Project Fusion members.
There are 6 players alive
majority is 4
Day 2 ends in 20 hours
He was town!? Are you kidding me!?And it was such a good TI role at that too...
...Scattered, are we still in MYLO or are we in LYLO?
Lylo
If you lynch town you will lose if the nightkill is successful
Wait, can we still afford a No Lynch or is that out of the question as well?
If you don’t lynch then you will be out of mylo/lylo entirety. N2 if the kill is successful D3 will begin with 5 players where you’ll have to lynch mafia.
Hm... From what I understand, if D3 is LYLO with 5 players, then Today is MYLO.
Because MYLO (Mislynch-and-Lose) is preventable by voting up No Lynch.
However, people seem to want to have a go at either Mera and/or Naga.
...well, I don't know about you folks, but I am not going to risk it.
##VOTE No Lynch
Ugh kill me now I need to start analyzing the game more closely this is going to suck.
I agree with Zone it's best to No Lynch today and massclaim and evaluate tomorrow but before then I'm going to get some analysis so a nightkill can't silence me.
I agree with Zone it's best to No Lynch today and massclaim and evaluate tomorrow but before then I'm going to get some analysis so a nightkill can't silence me.
Possible Team Combinations:
Removing ones that feel super unlikely leaves:
I'll try to get some more work done lowering that today (I want to check my read on Nick because if I can be assured he's town and cross out possibilities containing him that would be great) but also claims tomorrow should help with this process. Remember tomorrow not one townie can afford to misvote for the rest of the game (unless there's bussing I guess) and because of that we need to have the scumteam nailed by then (or possibly just have enough clears that one person is confirmed scum and then hope town votes correctly in F3). Discuss for about three of the five days allotted before casting your votes so every angle can be considered.
P.S.
TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK-Ephemera
TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK-NaganadelIsBeast
TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK-Zone Q11~Zone's been way too buddy-buddy for them to actually be scum partners imo. I think regardless of alignment Zone believes Nick is town.
TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK-Celever
Ephemera-NaganadelIsBeast~Ephemera's been attacking Naga from the start so this isn't going to be a thing.
Ephemera-Zone Q11
Ephemera-Celever~Cel's been trying to lower Ephemera's towncred the whole game so I'm doubting this.
NaganadelIsBeast-Zone Q11~Zone's vote of Naga upon entering feels unlikely to be from a scum perspective (but I'm not as confident here because some stuff from Naga indicates it possibly to me)
NaganadelIsBeast-Celever
Zone Q11-Celever
TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK-NaganadelIsBeast
TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK-Zone Q11~Zone's been way too buddy-buddy for them to actually be scum partners imo. I think regardless of alignment Zone believes Nick is town.
TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK-Celever
Ephemera-NaganadelIsBeast~Ephemera's been attacking Naga from the start so this isn't going to be a thing.
Ephemera-Zone Q11
Ephemera-Celever~Cel's been trying to lower Ephemera's towncred the whole game so I'm doubting this.
NaganadelIsBeast-Zone Q11~Zone's vote of Naga upon entering feels unlikely to be from a scum perspective (but I'm not as confident here because some stuff from Naga indicates it possibly to me)
NaganadelIsBeast-Celever
Zone Q11-Celever
TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK-Ephemera
TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK-NaganadelIsBeast
TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK-Celever
Ephemera-Zone Q11
NaganadelIsBeast-Zone Q11
NaganadelIsBeast-Celever
Zone Q11-Celever
TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK-NaganadelIsBeast
TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK-Celever
Ephemera-Zone Q11
NaganadelIsBeast-Zone Q11
NaganadelIsBeast-Celever
Zone Q11-Celever
I'll try to get some more work done lowering that today (I want to check my read on Nick because if I can be assured he's town and cross out possibilities containing him that would be great) but also claims tomorrow should help with this process. Remember tomorrow not one townie can afford to misvote for the rest of the game (unless there's bussing I guess) and because of that we need to have the scumteam nailed by then (or possibly just have enough clears that one person is confirmed scum and then hope town votes correctly in F3). Discuss for about three of the five days allotted before casting your votes so every angle can be considered.
P.S.
(For the record this is also MYLO since No Lynching is another way to prolong the game.)
NP, I hope that you do remember that the only reason I think you are town is because of Nick revealing his ability. On the event that he is scum, there would be nothing holding me back to tunnel you.
However, I do not believe that Nick is scum, given the fact that he revealed his ability and results in the open (a bold move if he is scum) and because of simple mob-mentality.
Therefore, if anyone has anything to say about Nick: Speak now or forever hold your peace.
Nick's likely town, I agree with that. No comment here.
I'd like to expand on NP's possible combinations list.
If I recall correctly, there was a point where Naga was pursuing Nick. Probably D1, not conclusive, but I'll consider a scum team of Nick and Naga to be highly unlikely (especially considering I think Nick is town). Just putting that out there. Given that I think Nick is town, that removes the other Nick team possibilities from my view.
I doubt Zone and Naga would be on a scum team together. Not only did Zone start out with a vote on Naga, as you said, but before going for NP, Naga went for Zone first.
Zone and Cel have had little interaction. It's possible that they would be leaving each other alone as scum. Certainly a possibility.
Me and Zone... well, looking from an outsider's perspective, I can see that, but I doubt I'd be agreeing with Zone as much as I have if I were his scumbuddy. It would be too obvious, I think.
Naga and Cel. To be honest, something about this combination makes me think that it's the most likely one. I said before that I think Zone and Nick are town. Still true, although with Morda's flip, I'm really only very sure about Nick. Still, I see Zone as probable town. Thus, NP, Naga, and Cel would be the three remaining possible scum from my perspective. Naga's been tunneling NP really hard, so they're most likely not a team. Also, NP seems town on possible evidence from Nick. So, I see Naga and Cel as a likely scumteam.
Now, let's see the possible combos with NP as scum. I doubt this is the case, but let's consider the possibility.
NP-Zone Q11 -> these two have been barely tolerating each other, seeing each other as town. Could be a smokescreen for scumteam, but I don't think so. It's still a possibility, though.
NP-Ephemera -> one is me. I don't know what to say. However, if NP and I were scum, our interactions would probably be different, something like what I said for me and Zone. I would distance myself from NP's views a bit more, or something.
NP-TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK -> since I think Nick is town, probably not
NP-Celever -> Possible. I'd say it's as likely as Zone and Cel.
NP-NaganadelIsBeast -> No, b/c Naga tunneled him really hard
For me, this leaves
Zone/Cel
NP/Cel
NP/Zone
Naga/Cel, the one I see as most likely.
From this, Cel is likely on the scum team, but only from his interactions with others, and a sense of general scumminess, gut feelings, something.
Other people's interactions are more discordant, fighting, etc.
Naga I see as the most sus, though.
I'd like to expand on NP's possible combinations list.
If I recall correctly, there was a point where Naga was pursuing Nick. Probably D1, not conclusive, but I'll consider a scum team of Nick and Naga to be highly unlikely (especially considering I think Nick is town). Just putting that out there. Given that I think Nick is town, that removes the other Nick team possibilities from my view.
I doubt Zone and Naga would be on a scum team together. Not only did Zone start out with a vote on Naga, as you said, but before going for NP, Naga went for Zone first.
Zone and Cel have had little interaction. It's possible that they would be leaving each other alone as scum. Certainly a possibility.
Me and Zone... well, looking from an outsider's perspective, I can see that, but I doubt I'd be agreeing with Zone as much as I have if I were his scumbuddy. It would be too obvious, I think.
Naga and Cel. To be honest, something about this combination makes me think that it's the most likely one. I said before that I think Zone and Nick are town. Still true, although with Morda's flip, I'm really only very sure about Nick. Still, I see Zone as probable town. Thus, NP, Naga, and Cel would be the three remaining possible scum from my perspective. Naga's been tunneling NP really hard, so they're most likely not a team. Also, NP seems town on possible evidence from Nick. So, I see Naga and Cel as a likely scumteam.
Now, let's see the possible combos with NP as scum. I doubt this is the case, but let's consider the possibility.
NP-Zone Q11 -> these two have been barely tolerating each other, seeing each other as town. Could be a smokescreen for scumteam, but I don't think so. It's still a possibility, though.
NP-Ephemera -> one is me. I don't know what to say. However, if NP and I were scum, our interactions would probably be different, something like what I said for me and Zone. I would distance myself from NP's views a bit more, or something.
NP-TeamAqua4Life #HEYNICK -> since I think Nick is town, probably not
NP-Celever -> Possible. I'd say it's as likely as Zone and Cel.
NP-NaganadelIsBeast -> No, b/c Naga tunneled him really hard
For me, this leaves
Zone/Cel
NP/Cel
NP/Zone
Naga/Cel, the one I see as most likely.
From this, Cel is likely on the scum team, but only from his interactions with others, and a sense of general scumminess, gut feelings, something.
Other people's interactions are more discordant, fighting, etc.
Naga I see as the most sus, though.
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Anyone who actually answers this question is scum. TPs need to protect whom they think is town, while TIs check people based on their roles. (I.e. Watchers watch Towns and Trackers track Scum, as NP and I had talked about a couple pages back.)
It is this simple, and if we were to give advice than that would only alert scum. Don't think too much about it and just use your own predictions and gut feelings.
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