I tend to assume scum knows what they are doing, its something I will have to keep in mind here though. Leaving Ephe out to dry just doesn't make sense in this stage of the game at allThis is my main qualm with the Eph wagon actually. On other sites I play there's usually always a counter wagon from scum if the main lynch is scum. Historically on the Beach however, scum often don't actually make a counter wagon (I assume this is because the playerbase became much newer, so many people probably don't know how to). I'm not sure if it's how things are now, but it was how things were maybe 2 years ago; three or four years ago people always made counter wagons, so it's a relatively recent thing.
The fact that Eph has not made a strong case is interesting, but they have thrown out a lot of names as if they're trying to get them to stick, so I find it all a bit WIFOMy.
Why in the emperor's name do you choose to make what is essentially meta read when you don't have a clear game to pull from both alignments??? It just makes no logical sense. I smell fishy business afoot hereSo I did a multi-quote but it was long and scared me so I deleted it to have another short post :U
Sorry for not being here was out all of yesterday and then slept all of today because #winning
Ephe is definitely the scummiest. OMGUS is uncharacteristic of them and they've done it like, all game, to the point of being paranoid in RVS and targeting people who RVS voted them. They haven't had the same solving as they usually do and things seem less town-minded. I haven't seen them play scum before but maybe this is it.
bb is currently the likeliest partner with Ephe imo. The "let's vote out people who'll still be useful after death as town" is a bad idea in this setup given the numbers and I think bb would've figured that out, being the numbers man he is.
So ##VOTE: Ephemera spiritually because my RVS vote on them's still there :U
No cos I can't quote what's not there :UU It's just that they're not solving and they're OMGUSSing instead and making it looks like solving which could just be bad play but no one's scummy so :shrug:
@Vom seemed to think this too, but I don't think it's a true metaread. I think Celever has picked up on a scumtell (OMGUS), and as since OMGUS can often be NAI, he's pointed out why he thinks it is alignment indicative (i.e. using meta).Why in the emperor's name do you choose to make what is essentially meta read when you don't have a clear game to pull from both alignments??? It just makes no logical sense. I smell fishy business afoot here
Please. Stop. Talking. About. The. Four.Re: my wagon. Of the four, I think the most likely scum as of right now are cel/bb – to answer Vom's question, before Cel returned to the thread I wasn't sure if he was more likely to be scum than, say, mega. But I don't like his reentry, although I should come back in maybe an hour or so and see if this isn't just me being tilted.
Why is Cel's reentry scummy as heck? Because there's like no original thought there – it's discrediting me, spirit voting me cuz i'm "scummy" (i'm the easiest wagon, and his vote's already there), and no other real thoughts. It's setting up to put shade on my reads, even after scum score the miselim on me and I flip town.
Celever needs to show what posts he was planning on multi-quoting, because I'm starting wonder if that's a lie......have you been reading the thread? BB is the one who started the push on Ephe so them being scum is a large leap from my POV at least
Ah, basically every mafia game starts with a period of general discussion / joke voting since we have no information to go off of. It'll get into more serious gameplay later on.
##UNVOTE
##VOTE: Ephemera
You're being chaotic and arsonism is also chaotic therefore you're an arsonist gnight.
I'm enjoying your conversation, Ephe and Amici :U
So I did a multi-quote but it was long and scared me so I deleted it to have another short post :U
Sorry for not being here was out all of yesterday and then slept all of today because #winning
Ephe is definitely the scummiest. OMGUS is uncharacteristic of them and they've done it like, all game, to the point of being paranoid in RVS and targeting people who RVS voted them. They haven't had the same solving as they usually do and things seem less town-minded. I haven't seen them play scum before but maybe this is it.
bb is currently the likeliest partner with Ephe imo. The "let's vote out people who'll still be useful after death as town" is a bad idea in this setup given the numbers and I think bb would've figured that out, being the numbers man he is.
So ##VOTE: Ephemera spiritually because my RVS vote on them's still there :U
Not solving isn't a meta read and that's about it idk. I don't have anything else on anyone else either D:
No cos I can't quote what's not there :UU It's just that they're not solving and they're OMGUSSing instead and making it looks like solving which could just be bad play but no one's scummy so :shrug:
NAI, but posting a random collection of thoughts is actually not good. There is no action, there is no commitment, there is no nothing. All town should have an agenda: to find scum. If you don't have an agenda then you won't actually achieve anything, and posting a random collection of thoughts is a good way to appear like you're doing something when you actually are not. (Not saying that Jade is doing this, but I disagree with this tell)Jade is the most town player here now. His latest posts have been a random collection of thoughts, and that's just it – it's his thoughts, with no agenda behind them, and it definitely doesn't read like someone setting up chain miselims.
NAI, but posting a random collection of thoughts is actually not good. There is no action, there is no commitment, there is no nothing. All town should have an agenda: to find scum. If you don't have an agenda then you won't actually achieve anything, and posting a random collection of thoughts is a good way to appear like you're doing something when you actually are not. (Not saying that Jade is doing this, but I disagree with this tell)
The multi-quote used to work properly y'know >.>
@Vom seemed to think this too, but I don't think it's a true metaread. I think Celever has picked up on a scumtell (OMGUS), and as since OMGUS can often be NAI, he's pointed out why he thinks it is alignment indicative (i.e. using meta).
Please. Stop. Talking. About. The. Four.
Find evidence please. Your evidence on me has so far constituted of "I don't like his tone" and "I've felt he is off". You better be scum because you're running a very persistent smear campaign on me right now >.>
Celever needs to show what posts he was planning on multi-quoting, because I'm starting wonder if that's a lie...
It's been 2 minutes since your wall, be patient xD
Keep in mind that lurkers do not actually fulfill promises because they are lurking. They're possibly too busy to fulfill those promises and so you see this trait in town and scum lurkers, so I think your point is NAI.
Actually, I've reread your post Eph and I think there is indicative stuff in there which I would like to comment on once Celever provides those quotes. The basis of your case is NAI.
Again, those votes will mean something once the day has ended, they are WIFOM right now. The statistical probability that any random group of 4 has scum is already 71%, so your wifom probabilities doesn't reveal anything new. You need to find real evidence. (And yes, your post on Celever was real evidence, thankyou for finally doing that.)2) Again: it's super easy to get on my wagon, there's bound to be scum there. I believe I have pinned Cel due to the reasons I just stated, but your posts and progression also feel wrong. I get the impression that you are discrediting multiple townies, not just putting suspicion, and trying to look reasonable while you're at it. Essentially, your demeanor feels like it's emulating something – and townies don't need to emulate things. That enough for a case on you?
I don't understand how you reached that conclusion in any of your abc) points, and don't see an agenda. What's the agenda?With two lines, you are a) trying to get on my good side, b) putting shade without looking like it, and c) discrediting my case. Very agenda-y, all packed into a short post.Actually, I've reread your post Eph and I think there is indicative stuff in there which I would like to comment on once Celever provides those quotes. The basis of your case is NAI.
Again, there's no evidence here! Go type "agree" and enter bbninjas in the search bar and you'll find that I agree with many things. I have agreed with Amici a lot. Vom and Jade sometimes. I have disagreed with you a lot, largely because you're using logic and tells that doesn't make sense to me from my experience playing mafia, and you so happen to be actively using these tells.Another thing: bb's posts generally tend to counter others' reads, cases, and thoughts. It feels a lot like scum trying to discredit all town solving D1.
yes! I can't remember the last time it was so active, not to mention there are only 9 players.(also can I just say I love the activity this game it's only D1 and we're only two pages away from being longer than last game)
Stop ninja'ing me rip. Post #232 should adequately responded to in #231.
Again, those votes will mean something once the day has ended, they are WIFOM right now. The statistical probability that any random group of 4 has scum is already 71%, so your wifom probabilities doesn't reveal anything new. You need to find real evidence. (And yes, your post on Celever was real evidence, thankyou for finally doing that.)
Your points on me are based on your impressions, your tones, your feelings, your emotions, etc etc and you have not actually shown any evidence for any of those claims. So, yes, this is a smear campaign. (Also, ninja'd again. Still seems to be a smear campaign.)
I don't understand how you reached that conclusion in any of your abc) points, and don't see an agenda. What's the agenda?
Again, there's no evidence here! Go type "agree" and enter bbninjas in the search bar and you'll find that I agree with many things. I have agreed with Amici a lot. Vom and Jade sometimes. I have disagreed with you a lot, largely because you're using logic and tells that doesn't make sense to me from my experience playing mafia, and you so happen to be actively using these tells.
Yes, I will discredit tells that I think are bad.
If you keep it up you get a certificate! Good times.ninja'ing bbninjas lol