Finished Mafia XL: Age of Piracy: Game Over!

[mordacazir]

What's weird is he picked one that wasn't popular with other players, and that doesn't make me think the pick was "obvious" in his mind.

The other picks were ALL before simsands post, so, as I already have said, these were pretty much random votes without any reasoning. Secondly, the reasoning of my vote is obvious (at least to me), not the vote itself. And I just sorta "forgot" (laziness and time) my reasoning, which I later provided. And that is the scummy thing about me??? Just cause I provided it later I am scum? Oh, and if I'm still not convincing you guys, I can claim if you want that.

Morda is being pushed as a vote because he voted for an unpopular port and pushing that it was the best one to go to? That whole thing has me a little confused.

I wasn't even pushing the port. I only voted it without any reasoning. And that is the only problem.

 

[Scattered mind]

I think I explained my point on morda enough, including all the answers to his defenses. Look it up and response to the case. Ignoring the reasoning of this case by asking to clarify what is the point on morda after such a detailed conversation between him and me is dumbtelling by definition. Go, read the details, speak out your mind.

For all the inactives out there that think that this is just how they play- not being active, and stay behind the scene and observing the situation (aka lurking) is not a playstyle. It is simply not playing. I can't stress this enough. This game has a huge list of subs waiting to play instead of someone, so I would not recommend testing the hosts' limits in regard to subbing people out.

 

[Scattered mind]

However, I'm concerned about @Blakers, who seems to the ability to double vote. I don't entertain the thought of Blakers possibly being scum with an ability such as that, so I'm keeping an eye on him. Maybe he'd be good to look into later, but not today. He hasn't played enough for me to get any sort of read on him.

Then there's mordacazir, who made a claim that choosing their port was obvious. What's weird is he picked one that wasn't popular with other players, and that doesn't make me think the pick was "obvious" in his mind. I personally find this shifty, as I also believe certain ports will strengthen/weaken certain players abilities. Since all you'd find is trouble here, there's no good reason to go here without at least learning more about the ports and what they do. Rushing into one that's potentially dangerous such as Port Royal would only hurt the town. This was posted after @simsands described what each port was in the actual movies as well, which only makes this even weirder. ##VOTE: mordacazir

Double vote is not a townie nor scummy role. It's neutral. Meaning that it has no value without a related point/case. For example- if I see Blakers voting and causing someone to be at L-1 when we are at MYLO or something like that- This will be an extremely scummy thing to do, because i'll know he has double vote. Thus making it easier for another scum to come up and hammer.

As for morda- I will just add that the mere quote "I thought it was obvious" just sounds like an excuse.

 

[NinjaPenguin]

Arrrgh! Why can't ye all place down votes? We need to have votes placed so we can evaluate arguments and come to a consensus. If you are scared of placing down a vote remember that they can always change.
QUOTE="PikaMasterJesi, post: 2860727, member: 112996"]NP, please do remember that school is back in session, and as such I'm going to have to redirect my attention to that. In addition, the teachers decided it was a lovely idea to put a phone ban in place, so now I'm only going to be able to write a post before and after school, and during lunch.[/QUOTE]
I'm fully aware. Your posts have been constructive, so I didn't vote for you. I just wished your would post your helpful comments more.

I'm a bit confused by this part. You find it unlikely that he's scum with an ability like that, and yet you'll be keeping an eye on him?

I'd also like to see an answer to this.

I think I explained my point on morda enough, including all the answers to his defenses. Look it up and response to the case. Ignoring the reasoning of this case by asking to clarify what is the point on morda after such a detailed conversation between him and me is dumbtelling by definition. Go, read the details, speak out your mind.

For all the inactives out there that think that this is just how they play- not being active, and stay behind the scene and observing the situation (aka lurking) is not a playstyle. It is simply not playing. I can't stress this enough. This game has a huge list of subs waiting to play instead of someone, so I would not recommend testing the hosts' limits in regard to subbing people out.

LC liked this post, which was about convincing inactives to post and contribute, yet he doesn't post at all. Instead, he decides to not respond to my comments about him at al. This like has proved that he's read the thread, but still chooses to say nothing. This lynch is pretty good.

I really don't like the morda lynch. IIRC, he backpedals a lot as town. This seems no different.

 

[Blakers]

LC liked this post, which was about convincing inactives to post and contribute, yet he doesn't post at all. Instead, he decides to not respond to my comments about him at al. This like has proved that he's read the thread, but still chooses to say nothing. This lynch is pretty good.

I would have to agree, and it looks like you're lurking even now, Cherrim. Why don't you share your thoughts?

 

[NinjaPenguin]

If you want him to share his thoughts, pressure him. He won't speak without votes.

 

[Vom]

I'm sorta a out of the box thinker and i guess I didn't think about that.

Huh.

as I already have said, these were pretty much random votes without any reasoning. Secondly, the reasoning of my vote is obvious (at least to me), not the vote itself. And I just sorta "forgot" (laziness and time) my reasoning, which I later provided

First of all, to notice they weren't random you only had to read the posts where the votes were (which you obviously saw but didn't bother to actually read). Also, if your reasoning to vote is obvious (at least to you) that was a good enough reason since you did give your reasoning after (which isn't the issue here), but now you say you 'forgot' your reasoning, changing you story which suggests you're lying. It is known that you backpedal a lot as town, but changing your reason is different. I'll be keeping my eye on you, only because there's actually more interesting options today.

, I can claim if you want that.

Don't ever claim D1. It's not like everyone's gunning for your lynch, and even if we were it's a bit too desperate and defensive for a D1 'case'.

I would have to agree, and it looks like you're lurking even now, Cherrim. Why don't you share your thoughts?

Why don't you and @Little Cherrim both do so?

 

[Blakers]

I really don't like the morda lynch. IIRC, he backpedals a lot as town. This seems no different.

Like in what games? I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I would like to see a little evidence of this as I haven't been around for many Mafia games.

Although I don't completely agree with the lynch either. To me it looks kind of like a careless mistake that gets over analyzed and leads to a mislynch. And having explained his thought process, it seems almost like what I said in the Star Wars game that started the lynch on me. So with that said, and the fact that Cherrim needs pressuring...
##UNVOTE: Mordacazir
##VOTE: Little Cherrim

 

[Scattered mind]

Arrrgh! Why can't ye all place down votes? We need to have votes placed so we can evaluate arguments and come to a consensus. If you are scared of placing down a vote remember that they can always change.
QUOTE="PikaMasterJesi, post: 2860727, member: 112996"]NP, please do remember that school is back in session, and as such I'm going to have to redirect my attention to that. In addition, the teachers decided it was a lovely idea to put a phone ban in place, so now I'm only going to be able to write a post before and after school, and during lunch.

I'm fully aware. Your posts have been constructive, so I didn't vote for you. I just wished your would post your helpful comments more.

I'd also like to see an answer to this.

LC liked this post, which was about convincing inactives to post and contribute, yet he doesn't post at all. Instead, he decides to not respond to my comments about him at al. This like has proved that he's read the thread, but still chooses to say nothing. This lynch is pretty good.

I really don't like the morda lynch. IIRC, he backpedals a lot as town. This seems no different.[/QUOTE]

Also as scum, which makes this meta defense irrelevant.

 

[Scattered mind]

The above post was quoted badly. What I said is just the last line.

 

[JadeGemTM]

I would have to agree, and it looks like you're lurking even now, Cherrim. Why don't you share your thoughts?

If you want him to share his thoughts, pressure him. He won't speak without votes.

##UNVOTE: Keeper of Night
##VOTE: Little Cherrim

 

[Little Cherrim]

IMO, I'm actually quite intrigued be NP's vote weight. It could be a balancing ability for an op night action. It puts NP a little higher up in my "reads". On the other hand, l

LC liked this post, which was about convincing inactives to post and contribute, yet he doesn't post at all. Instead, he decides to not respond to my comments about him at al. This like has proved that he's read the thread, but still chooses to say nothing. This Lynch is pretty good.

I would have to agree, and it looks like you're lurking even now, Cherrim. Why don't you share your thoughts?

If you want him to share his thoughts, pressure him. He won't speak without votes.

Like in what games? I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I would like to see a little evidence of this as I haven't been around for many Mafia games.

Although I don't completely agree with the lynch either. To me it looks kind of like a careless mistake that gets over analyzed and leads to a mislynch. And having explained his thought process, it seems almost like what I said in the Star Wars game that started the lynch on me. So with that said, and the fact that Cherrim needs pressuring...
##UNVOTE: Mordacazir
##VOTE: Little Cherrim

I'm fully aware. Your posts have been constructive, so I didn't vote for you. I just wished your would post your helpful comments more.

I'd also like to see an answer to this.

LC liked this post, which was about convincing inactives to post and contribute, yet he doesn't post at all. Instead, he decides to not respond to my comments about him at al. This like has proved that he's read the thread, but still chooses to say nothing. This lynch is pretty good.

I really don't like the morda lynch. IIRC, he backpedals a lot as town. This seems no different.

Also as scum, which makes this meta defense irrelevant.[/QUOTE]
I've been preparing this post for like an hour.

for Mord.
I still need to read up on him, but that post of "Going to find scum at Port Royal", does not make sense to me, as the scum would be on the ship with us, no?

Spoiler: Extremely Slim relevance to Mord Case from post last game.

mirdo, TheSceptileMaster, mordacazir. - You were so awesome! You really deserve this win. You played so good together, making sure you help each other in order to survive. You better sign up for the next game people, because players here would like to revenge!

The hosts might have put that in this game just for fun, but I doubt that it could have happened.

for Blakers, I'm concerned about the Double Vote ability he seems to possess, it probably is the ability of a highly influential or powerful role.
I would like to know his role. Then again, that goes for everybody, and claiming early on doesn't seem good.

Reads ranked in decreasing order.
1.@Blakers - Double Vote.
2.@mordacazir - "Going to find scum"
3.@NinjaPenguin - Null Vote Weight.
*Sigh, I need to be quicker at posting.

 

[Scattered mind]

So do tell why you don't like the morda Day oneish case without resorting to meta points that are irrelevant.

 

[Scattered mind]

@Little Cherrim - basing your reads on roles that is just as trying to host hunt instead of scum hunt. You need to analyze players posts, not what went through the host's mind. Also look up at what I told Lird about the double vote role.

 

[Scattered mind]

Also LC , I really don't understand what you were trying to say by that quote of mine as a host last game.

 

[NinjaPenguin]

So do tell why you don't like the morda Day oneish case without resorting to meta points that are irrelevant.

It just seems like you're pushing an easy lynch. His meta doesn't necessarily mean he's town, it just makes most of your points null. Here's some townie quotes I've found from past games:
Here, morda votes for something without understanding the reasoning.

Spoiler: Mord's Strange Voting Habits

You're right
##VOTE: squirtle squad

Yo Mord can you explain your reasoning?

The point you made?

Which was?

Because he was denying the questions, I think. I still don't really play serious right now, just pressuring.

Oh? Please explain to me why you think he was denying the questions.

I think, I still don't know what really your point was, and why did you ask celever not the same thing? Is it because its your scumbuddie?

Yes. Please explain to me why you think that he was denying the question.

Now i think twice about it, there wasn't really a question asked.

So you weren't thinking before?

Why'd you vote for him then?

Because... You made a point i still don't understand?

So you voted for him because I did?

Here's a quote you made in XXXV:

Last game he was town, when he got pressured, he panicked and asked for the reason he was blamed.

This post also states that scum morda is calm under pressure. If you had to ask me, this morda is certainly panicking.
These morda quotes show that he acts this way no matter what (making your points null). If you have a point that can't be disproved by meta, show me. Otherwise, I think the Little Cherrim case is better.

IMO, I'm actually quite intrigued be NP's vote weight. It could be a balancing ability for an op night action. It puts NP a little higher up in my "reads".

I don't like this at all. You are pointing out to that my low vote weight means that I have a PR. Who's that going to help? The scum.

Spoiler: Extremely Slim relevance to Mord Case from post last game.

The hosts might have put that in this game just for fun, but I doubt that it could have happened.

This point confuses me. Could you explain more?

3.@NinjaPenguin - Null Vote Weight.

Small OMGUS

@Little Cherrim Could you respond to the case against you?

 

[Blakers]

IMO, I'm actually quite intrigued be NP's vote weight. It could be a balancing ability for an op night action. It puts NP a little higher up in my "reads". On the other hand, l






Also as scum, which makes this meta defense irrelevant.

I've been preparing this post for like an hour.

for Mord.
I still need to read up on him, but that post of "Going to find scum at Port Royal", does not make sense to me, as the scum would be on the ship with us, no?

Spoiler: Extremely Slim relevance to Mord Case from post last game.

The hosts might have put that in this game just for fun, but I doubt that it could have happened.

for Blakers, I'm concerned about the Double Vote ability he seems to possess, it probably is the ability of a highly influential or powerful role.
I would like to know his role. Then again, that goes for everybody, and claiming early on doesn't seem good.

Reads ranked in decreasing order.
1.@Blakers - Double Vote.
2.@mordacazir - "Going to find scum"
3.@NinjaPenguin - Null Vote Weight.
*Sigh, I need to be quicker at posting.[/QUOTE]

(Ninja'd by the Ninja Penguin. But what I have to say is *probably* still relevant.)
1. NP doesn't necessarily have a null vote ability. This could be you trying to use that to cover up a scummy ability that you have that nullifies a vote on you.
2. You are saying that mordacazir is one of your top scum leads, but you think that the hosts didn't make him scum this time around? Please explain that more clearly.
3. And you have me placed as your top read for no other reason than me having a Double Vote? Only the player who has it can make an ability like that scummy. And I don't think I've at all been scummy with it thus far.

 

[Scattered mind]

btw- not that I think that my case is amazingly good(it is good), but I would say it is better then lynching someone just because they are inactive. That is the host's job (by modkilling/subbing out), not yours.

 

[Blakers]

And wow, that quote got messed up.

 

[NinjaPenguin]

1. NP doesn't necessarily have a null vote ability. This could be you trying to use that to cover up a scummy ability that you have that nullifies a vote on you..

That's wrong. My null vote weight is caused by my role, not anyone else's. When it comes to why that is, LC's explanation is closer to the truth, although he's wrong in that it means that I'm a scum.