@NinjaPenguin - my case on morda is not that he panicked. And it is not about having no reason- it is about having a possible scummy reason. That is not related to the quotes you gave.
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I unvoted Cypher mainly because he didn't respond to my RVS, so it was a waste to keep my vote there. People didn't have an affect on me, just that I was waiting to see if he would make a shifty response to anything, or if anyone else thought there was something shifty about him they would point out, if I agreed with them, find a reason to keep my vote there. I found none, being positive that route was a dead end, I removed the vote.
Yeah, my wording was off here. My fault. I wasn't trying to paint Blakers as town or scum, just saying that his role is dangerous, holds a lot of power, and can hurt the town if we're not careful with him. Because he could hurt the town, that's why I think an eye should be kept on him. Hope that clears everything up.
He did exactly the same thing when he was scum last game. That doesn't make him town at all.
Day 1 Vote Count #3
Vote Count to Lynch:TheSceptileMaster: 0 |
@mordacazir: 3 | [
NinjaPenguin: 0 | [
scattered mind: 1 | [simsands]
Jadethepokemontrainer: 0 | [
Keeper of Night: 0 | [
Cypher333: 0 | [
Lord o da rings: 0 | [
Vom: 2 | [PikaMasterJesi], [mordacazir], [
double o squirtle: 1 | [TheSceptileMaster]
PikaMasterJesi: 1 | [Vom]
@Little Cherrim: 3 | [NinjaPenguin], [Blakers], [Jadethepokemontrainer]
It still be 8 to lynch.
Vote Count for Port:
Port Royal: 1 | [scattered mind], [
Rumrunner's Isle: 1 | [Lord o da rings], [
Tortuga: 6 | [Cypher333], [Vom], [scattered mind], [Blakers], [mordacazir], [Jadethepokemontrainer]
Fiddler's Green: 2 | [Keeper of Night], [NinjaPenguin]
Yeah, there's still time left in the day, so we can pressure him later. For now we have two cases definitely worth a look.
Those kinds of thoughts are definitely in the town's best interest, so town points there, as well as you switching out of your RVS. And I'm pretty sure you have morda as a scumread, but what are your thoughts on Cherrim?
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Unless your role says something about it, we have no idea of knowing which port does what. For all we know, using reverse psychology and picking a port that seems anti-town could be the best idea. The only thing we really know are that green ports are in some way different than black ports. That, combined with the fact that morda never gives the best reasoning when he votes, is why morda seems neutral to me. He might have a better chance of flipping scum than most of us, but he's not the best lynch.
Little Cherrim has used very flawed reasoning (that even someone on their second game should realize is flawed), dodged my questions at him, hypocritically liked a post, and made a minor OMGUS. I find that reasoning much better than the reasoning on mord.
But it doesn't make him scum either. That's why I believe that what morda is currently doing is not indicative of alignment.
Unless your role says something about it, we have no idea of knowing which port does what. For all we know, using reverse psychology and picking a port that seems anti-town could be the best idea. The only thing we really know are that green ports are in some way different than black ports. That, combined with the fact that morda never gives the best reasoning when he votes, is why morda seems neutral to me. He might have a better chance of flipping scum than most of us, but he's not the best lynch.
Little Cherrim has used very flawed reasoning (that even someone on their second game should realize is flawed), dodged my questions at him, hypocritically liked a post, and made a minor OMGUS. I find that reasoning much better than the reasoning on mord.
Well after reading the whole thing, LC seems upset that his vote on NP is nullified, and that puts him as a read. That's kinda baseless, as his ability to take off a vote has nothing to do with his role. I see that as OMGUS. He's also addressing mord in the same way pretty much everyone else has, and that's kinda bandwagon. Then he liked a post without really saying anything, and only came up to defend himself. That's... a lot.
Then this, along with what you said about mord in the same post has convinced me. ##UNVOTE: mordacazir ##VOTE: Little Cherrim
Okay, so when I liked that post, I wanted to try to turn around my "Lurker play style". Instead, I found myself spending an awful lot of time putting a post together. That only made it worse with more and more people pressuring me to post. I sort of panicked.
With the condition that the turn of events has brought, I don't think I will be able to "build a case" without worsening my situation.
I feel a claim is the only way attempt to poke some light into my case.
Would you fellows want a role-claim?
With the condition that the turn of events has brought, I don't think I will be able to "build a case" without worsening my situation.
I feel a claim is the only way attempt to poke some light into my case.
Would you fellows want a role-claim?
Why do you ignore what I said about this not being a matter of not giving reason?
You say "He might have a better chance of flipping scum than most of us, but he's not the best lynch"- but that is the definition of "the best lynch". Right? You are not going to find someone 100% scummy during D1, and not even 80%. Even if morda's case is 10% scummy- this is the guy you need to lynch in case you have no other cases.
Now I see you have something on LC that is not just -"he's inactive" - a complete RVS vote for lurkers- so let's see-
"Little Cherrim has used very flawed reasoning (that even someone on their second game should realize is flawed), dodged my questions at him, hypocritically liked a post, and made a minor OMGUS. I find that reasoning much better than the reasoning on mord"
What is the flawed reasoning?
What questions did he ignore?
The explanation for the like he gave me is in the post above. I kinda understood that that is probably the reason he liked my post in the first place, and the reason I thought that way, and not that he liked my post and contradicted it at the same time, is the fact I know LC is not a D**bag. k?
Any vote that comes at you with any reasoning other than -"you voted me, shame on you" is not OMGUS by definition.
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Claiming isn't going to help you, and I'd refrain from making a claim this early in the game.
That statement is true if you look at his meta. If the meta of a player (the way a player usually play in past games, for new players reading this) does not say that what he's doing is scummy or townie- you should not use the argument of "that's just how he plays". For example- @PikaMasterJesi has a scummy town meta, which got her lynched several times. That would be a case to say "don't vote her- it is her meta". But, if Jesi were doing similar things, getting lynched, and flip scum- then those things cannot be put to her town meta anymore. Especially if they occurred multiple times as scum (morda was scum like what? 2-3 times?). The idea that once you have the same meta as scum and town, and thus should not be looked at unless people have an exceptional evidence on you is nonsense.
The fact that you are willing to claim this early makes me really ok with your lynch LC. In a set-up this small I assume scum have safe-claims (might be in the OP too, but effort) and it seems like you are relying on that claim to get you out out of people questioning you.
NP, you should either stop defending morda, or defend what the actual accusations against him are.
NP, you should either stop defending morda, or defend what the actual accusations against him are.
@scattered mind You know your vote is on Port Royal?
And why is it bad when someone claims on Day 1?
And why is it bad when someone claims on Day 1?
No I did not know that.
It is actually on two different ports. I have the ability to vote for two people at the same time (which to this day I have no idea what is the use of that, but whatever) and so I need to say who I am unvoting for in order to cancel a vote and that the host would not consider it as a second vote. I guess it applies on ports as well, so:
@@UNPORT
ort Royal
Oh and maybe they didn't consider the unvote because of the emoji *facepalm*
@@UNPORT: Port Royal
@@UNPORT: Port Royal
What part of revealing somebody's role at the very beginning of the game sounds good to you?
Nothing is good, but I just wanted to know what's bad.
If it's not good, it's bad, morda. That's how it works. Information given freely has no grey area.
Agreed. Lynching an inactive does us no good, unless we luck out and they just happen to be scum. And even then, we'd still be left with barely any information going into the next day.
The points against morda does, as Scattered said, make him a better lynch option than many other players at this point, but right now, I'm feeling more suspicious of NinaPenguin. The way he's pushing for a LC lynch makes me feel like he's doing so trying to keep morda from getting lynched. This could both be him trying to keep his scumbuddy from getting lynched, or that he knows that morda is town and is trying to get towncred once morda flips.
##UNVOTE
##VOTE: NinjaPenguin
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